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I Am...Sasha Fierce: A "Gimmcky Concept [That] Falls Flat"
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I Am...Sasha Fierce: A "Gimmcky Concept [That] Falls Flat" |
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I'm a Black woman and I don't find Beyonce to be a positive role model nor do I find her to be talented.
Her music is garbage and the sound of her voice sounds like nails scratching on a chalkboard to me.
I don't know why people take up for this chick like she's some gift to humanity. NEXT!
11/19/08
Just wanted to explain myself, not trying to change your mind or beef with you.
11/19/08
I'm glad to hear about the private contribution. However, I think it's undeniable that this dual CD trick is a marketing gimmick.
Also, it's troubling how much of this album, its marketing and image are stolen or copied. I think in the rush to put out new material, she's tapped out and is becoming derivative.
Like a Boy was written and recorded by someone else already. The concept for the video Single Ladies came from Fosse. Her recent look has been exposed repeatedly as borrowing from Rihanna, Vanessa Williams (the CD cover look is from an old Vanessa Williams CD), and others. In many ways, I wonder if Beyonce is like her character in Dreamgirls and just doesn't know the real source of her efforts at being "revolutionary". However, initially pretending like she wrote Irreplaceable makes her seem like a participant in the fraud.
One thing that frustrates me with Beyonce is that she's made enough money to take a break, regroup and be truly artistic, and shoot, go to school. Listening to her speak is troubling.
Sometimes I'm not sure whether to pity Beyonce or not. Sometimes it seems like it's not her fault, but she is an adult and has to see what's going on around her.
11/19/08
I can totally get on board with that.
11/18/08
Beyonce has accomplished quite a lot. She is a woman who, like it or not, has changed the face of R&B music. Her endorsements are nothing to sneeze at either and she is VERY active in charitable works.
Maybe because I'm a Black woman I'm especially respectful of the fact that the aren't that many POSITIVE women out there making money and establishing careers on par with our White counterparts.
I get the feeling you guys would like her better if she got caught snorting coke, went in and out of rehab, and then got photographed for doing absolutely nothing.
You don't have to like her music to restrain yourself from attacking her personally.
11/19/08
you got to be kidding me.
B. has a blonde weave down to her ass. got a nose job (her old nose was fine), and made sure the other women in DC were less attractive, which of course meant they were darker.
Sorry my mom is the black female role model in my life.
Beyonce doesn't not sing r&b, but overly produced pop music. fun but disposable.
she did not change the face of r&b. Not at all.
11/19/08
You don't have to agree with my assessment by any means. It's funny though, I prefer to listen to Meshell Ndgeocello and Jill Scott any day of the week. But I also like seeing young sisters doing their thing even if it's not particularly my thing. I definitely don't see the point in hating on another person bc you don't agree with their weave or are jealous (that's the only reason I can think of for a stupid suggestion that 'she made sure' evryone else was darker)of her light skin.
But whatevs, if you want to judge on a superficial level, rock on sista.
11/18/08
THERE. I SAID IT.
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Say it three times and I turn into a demon.
Or maybe it means we're divorced.
I can't remember.
11/18/08
Well here it goes again. Seriously, love you. Though I may be having one of your cousins* for supper, sorry!
*Are squash and turnips related?
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But Darling, there's a whole lotta love in this here joint. Can ya feel it?
11/18/08
I ended up having french fries for supper. Super healthy. Squash will wait until tomorrow!
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(we're the dancers.)
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[i38.tinypic.com]
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You can't blame her- blame her choreographer.
11/18/08
You make me wanna throw my pager out the window/ Tell MCI to cut my phone poles/ Break my lease so I can move/ Cuz you're a bugaboo, a bugaboo.
I wanna put your number on the call block/have AOL make my email stop/cuz you're a bugaboo/ you're buggin' what? you're buggin' who? you're buggin me/ and doncha see it aint' cool?
11/18/08
(I'm TOTALLY kidding.)
11/18/08
wtf LA times???
Yes, how could she sing "white songs" on the first disc? obviously she doesn't know where her "home" is. stay in your place singing r&b, woman!
...i do not get at ALL what that review is trying to get at.
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I get frustrated when someone like Amy Winehouse gets credit and accolades for sounding sooooo soulful, but Beyonce gets reamed for not sounding like she's the lead singer in a southern, black, gospel choir.
Why come the double standard?
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That being said, I agree with U.L.A.M.J. is the Hate Mitigator Who Hates the Haters that it's annoying to have such a double standard. How does one sing 'white', exactly?
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The weirdest thing about this split is its racial undertone. The Beyonce ballads [are] vehemently not R&B, and Beyonce enunciates them in a firmly post-racial style...The cowriters on these songs are mostly white,...and that universal tone is vehemently not grounded in a "black" sound.
Sasha Fierce, on the other hand, knows where her home is.
Uh, Fuck You very much.
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Thank you.
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Black celebrity releases album and jezebel women bring out their claws... And you wonder why women like Hellen Mirren think the way they do..
Snark, Negativity, girl bashing is not cool. When its done by good people or by the people Jezebels "consider bad people".
If you have nothing nice to say about beyonce.. DONT SAY IT.
Its still hating. Supposed liberal jezebels.
11/18/08
Beyonce may honestly believe that she becomes "Sasha Fierce" on stage. Fine; whatever works for her. But if it looks like a marketing ploy to sell a split record, and someone postulates that it may be a marketing ploy to sell a split record, that's now "girl on girl hate"?
11/18/08
I love Beyonce, but I don't think any of the negative comments have crap to do with Beyonce's race. Point out your evidence, miss, because I don't see it.
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That being said, your opinion is always welcome, as are the opinions of the other commenters. So it's one thing to try to open up a discussion about race and pop stars and critical reaction, but quite another to make sweeping generalizations about the staff and the commenters on the whole.
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I don't actually think that is the case, however, I have noticed that Oprah, Mariah, Tyra and Beyonce seem to take alot more malicious barbs than do most other celebrities. The only one who really escapes that type of nasty/mean-spirited is Michelle Obama. So do I think it's racial? No. BUT I don't think he's a nutcase nor banworthy for leaping to that conclusion. To each his own.
11/18/08
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The album is getting great reviews. Although MEGAN could only edit out the soso reviews. How professional of her.
Love her or Hate her shes the biggest pop star on the planet now!
11/18/08
But:
1) You don't have to be a pro multi-platinum singer to listen to someone else, however talented that someone may be, and think that they are doing something gimmicky and lame.
2) I wouldn't dream of ragging on Beyonce for the color of her skin. She seems to be doing fine in her personal life and she's never done anything to me personally, y'know?
I will, however, rag on her music because I don't think she's The World's Greatest Talent. I think she's marginally talented, but her music is overproduced and overhyped, and it's not to my taste.
I have heard her music. I am a musician. I didn't like it. Also, it's okay for Maria to say she doesn't like something. She's been around awhile. It's also fine for you to disagree with Maria's editorial, but please don't assume it's because Beyonce is not a "tragic white "IT" slut".
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If anyone wants to find fault with anything, point your anger towards the LA Times blog.
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He is limited.
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