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f_t_e
11/10/08

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It's definitely because women just aren't funny. And no one understands being a liberal more than white dudes. HELLO. Am I right, Tina Fey? But I love the defense of lots of ladies work for us, why, one just got me some coffee and another did my make-up and, oh yeah, they edit and produce, but you can't trust them with the writing part, it's hard work.

Here's some number crunching I did after the Emmys this year. Enjoy the sexism.

1 out of the 5 nominees for Outstanding Directing, Drama
0 out of the 6 nominees for Outstanding Directing, Comedy
0 out of the 5 nominees for Outstanding Directing, Miniseries, Movie, Dramatic Special
0 out of the 5 nominees for Outstanding Directing for Variety, Music, or Comedy Program
8 out of the 34 nominees (producers of executive producers) for Outstanding Variety, Music Or Comedy Series
1 out of the 8 nominees for Outstanding Writing, Comedy (and the winner, Tina Fey.)
1 (co-writer) out of the 9 nominees for Outstanding Writing, Drama
1 out of the 6 nominees for Outstanding Writing, Miniseries, Movie, Dramatic Special

And, finally, out of the whopping 85 writers over 5 shows nominated for Outstanding Variety, Music or Comedy Series ... we saw EIGHT female nominees, about 8%.

There are NO female writers for The Late Show with David Letterman, Late Night with Conan O'Brien and now, there's none for TDS

Not funny.
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Hana Maru
11/10/08

@f_t_e: Thanks for the numbers. I think it's total BS to say BUT THEY HAVE ONE WOMAN!!! Like that's anywhere near not being discrimination.
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hellosunshine
11/10/08

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Maybe cause all the wimmenz would want to nom-nom Jon? Or is that just me?

(Totally kidding about the first part, totally serious about the latter.)
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KillMeNow no longer has a future in journalism
11/10/08

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I don't want to hear it. There are no rationalizations. You can not point out every hypocrisy in society and then defend the horrible hiring practices of your own show. (And no, I'm not a frustrated applicant, just a frustrated viewer).

But it's probably just because women aren't funny. They're good editors, though, because it's like sewing.
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strangebeastie
11/10/08

@KillMeNow has a stalker named Yolanda: You are my favourite.
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KillMeNow no longer has a future in journalism
11/10/08

@strangebeastie: My keyboard just blushed.
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info*ninja
11/10/08

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I think this has to do with the fact that the show is a political comedy show, combining two worlds that have historically been male dominated. It will just take time and there are things we can do to ensure that progress is made, starting young and continuing through to adulthood.
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Cardbross
11/10/08

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It seems like the Daily Show has some trouble generally with being visibly diverse. I definitely get the impression they brought on Wyatt Cenac and Larry Wilmore this past summer as a direct response their increasingly evident lack of diversity given Obama's candidacy.
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eatsshootsleaves
11/10/08

@Shidobu: Larry Wilmore has been on the show since 2006, no?
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ceejeemcbeegee is not here
11/10/08

@Shidobu: Fun fact: Wyatt auditioned to play Obama on SNL.
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hfree
11/10/08

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The Daily Show was co-created by a woman, Liz Winstead. Remember when she and Beth Littleford were both on (in the Kilborn days)?
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ceejeemcbeegee is not here
11/10/08

@hfree: ahh yes... I remember thinking Stewart would be a piss-poor replacement for Kilborn. Boy, and I glad I was wrong!
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ceejeemcbeegee is not here
11/10/08

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Or... you could applaud the fact that those women have used TDS as a springboard for their careers.
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30RocksMySocks
11/10/08

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You guys haven't heard about The Office spinoff? Apparently it will star the lovely Amy Poehler!!!
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BlondeGrlz
11/10/08

@30RocksMySocks: THIS I can support!
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PilgrimSoul
11/10/08

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The Daily Show has something of a fraught relationship with women, it seems, since they usually only have one on at a time - occasional exceptions are made, sure.

And I say this as a person who wishes to have many, many children with Jon.
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MegSpencer
11/10/08

@PilgrimSoul: Yeah, I'm sort of bummed about that too. On the other hand, isn't that the entire comedy field kinda male-centric as well?
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esorlehcar
11/10/08

@PilgrimSoul: I adore both Stewart and Colbert, but they've had a lot of issues with women even beyond the whole issue of their lily white, male writing staffs (at one point, the guy who plays Colbert's "black friend Alan" mentioned in an article that they had to hire him from outside because there were no African-Americans working for the show).

I found both shows really hard to watch during the primaries, because their coverage of Hillary was so blatantly sexist on several occasions (and yeah, Colbert's playing a character, but his treatment of Hillary was different than his treatment of Obama, and Stewart doesn't even have that excuse), and they've had some other issues as well.

Of course, they also give us fabulous (if unfortunately infrequent) bits with Samantha Bee and Kristen Schaal...
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Hana Maru
11/10/08

@esorlehcar: I thought I could start re-watching after the primaries, but every time I tuned in, JS made another(usually sexist) dig at HRC, for something dumb like not supporting Obama enough. I finally stopped watching it and took it off the list for the DVR.
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morninggloria
11/10/08

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Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa.

Who is spinning off and to where?
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R_Claw
11/10/08

@morninggloria: AND if Pam leaves Jim and stays in NYC, I don't think I'll be able to watch either!!!!
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morninggloria
11/10/08

@R_Claw...v.2.01 now comes with hope for the future.: If Pam and Jim break up, I will write myself into the show and date the shit out of him.
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RisaPlata
11/10/08

@morninggloria: Don't panic! They're saying it's not a real spinoff in the sense that none of the characters we already know are involved. It's all the behind-the-scenes people that are spinning.
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AuntieBee
11/10/08

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What about Sam Bee? I loves her so.
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jenalicious
11/10/08

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what about Samantha Bee?? she's fabulous.
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BlondeGrlz
11/10/08

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An Office spinoff? I'm not sure I can support that.
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labeled
11/10/08

@BlondeGrlz is having a BlondeBoyz!: psst, AWWWWWW. My first was a boy, followed by two girls. And it's def. true - a brother will go to hell and back to protect his sisters.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
11/10/08

@BlondeGrlz is having a BlondeBoyz!: BlondeBoyz?! Mazel Tov!
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