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    Image of I_can_still_pitch I_can_still_pitch
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    Try this Ty: "It was a dumb idea. We shouldn't have done it. Sorry."

    So easy and simple. That is how you "apologize." It's a different thing than "attempt to justify" or "rationalize."
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    Image of TurtleSpeak TurtleSpeak
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    I see how it's a problematic photo shoot concept but I still don't really think it's analogous to "blackface". It is problematic in other ways- it essentializes and co-opts races for artistic effect. That's a problem. But it's not "blackface". It is possible for a racial shoot to be problematic without it being "blackface"... I don't know if I feel comfortable using this term to describe something like this. I can't really explain why.
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    11/19/09

    @TurtleSpeak:
    I'm okay with calling it blackface. It might be possibly well-intended blackface, but it's still blackface. It doesn't have to be the clowny Sambo version to be blackface. It's still appropriation. Here's where it gets blurry: like actors, models are hired to create an illusion. Would this even be an issue if models of color were adequately represented? Would everyone be free to paint up as they pleased?

    I'm not sure what to think. As an artist, it makes me sad that racism affects even the most innocent exploration. There are things that you might be drawn to aesthetically that you might have to pull back on because of how they'll be percieved.
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    Image of TransFat TransFat
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot

    THERE IS NO TYRA ONLY ZUUL!
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    Image of hovy hovy
    11/19/09

    @TransFat: Are you the Keymaster?
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    Image of JessickerFletcher JessickerFletcher
    11/19/09


    @TransFat: You have to admit, the resemblance is striking.
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    11/19/09


    @TransFat: I'll see your Zuul and raise you one Google search for "80's hair."
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    Image of rodmanstreet rodmanstreet
    11/19/09

    @TransFat: Dana/Zuul: the original hapa.
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    Image of OneTwoPunch OneTwoPunch
    11/19/09

    @wordinedgewise: Wow. Suddenly my h.s. photo from 1986 doesn't seem so hairageous. Nice 80s find.

    ps-This is the only time I've ever resembled Ms. Weaver—when she played a sexed-up demon from an 80s movie. Crazy.
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    11/19/09


    @rodmanstreet: Maybe we should send this to Mr. Jay. I would kill to see an 80s film babe shoot: Dana/Zuul, Weird Science gal, Ally Sheedy as the Basketcase...wait they did that one...

    @wordinedgewise: It's bad enough when I'm stifling laughter about my own joke, but this put me over the top. I had to excuse myself from my desk to stop the giggles in the bathroom. Now that I'm back, they are too.
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    Image of justcallmeangel justcallmeangel
    11/19/09

    @hovy: I am the Gatekeeper.
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    Image of Understater Understater
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    It's my number one passion in my life to stretch the definition of beauty

    I thought her number one passion was slutshaming.
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    Image of futuremouse futuremouse
    11/19/09

    @Understater: I thought it was smizing.
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    Image of rodmanstreet rodmanstreet
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    Thanks for slipping that "sorta" in the title of this post. I watched this yesterday, and that SORTA came through loud and clear to me. But I felt like that was more Tyra's egomania than anything else. "Me? Admit a mistake?"
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    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    They didn't even do a realistic job on the makeup...
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    Image of wordinedgewise wordinedgewise
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    Hmm, "batswana." Is that like Botswana, only with more bats?
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    11/12/09

    In reply to "How Do You Draw Asian Women?"
    I've seen better art at Red Lobster, on the table-paper. #asians
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    Image of Skellatrix Skellatrix
    11/12/09

    In reply to "How Do You Draw Asian Women?"
    When I was a kid, I drew ALL my girls with eyes and lips like that...and EPIC hair. I thought I just really liked sketching "pretty makeup." I had no idea I was, in actuality, creating genuine representations of all Asian women.

    And yeah, his drawing skills are, apparently, on par with mine at age 12.

    ETA: Actually, 12 is really giving him too much credit.
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    Image of rednrowdy rednrowdy
    11/12/09

    In reply to "How Do You Draw Asian Women?"
    is it just me or did he just draw a brat doll? #asians
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    Image of Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
    11/12/09

    In reply to "How Do You Draw Asian Women?"
    The funny thing is the "Asian Woman" he drew could be anybody. Keisha up the street. Becky at the mall. Maria at the restaurant. Lelani at the 7-11. If I hadn't known the intent behind the drawing, I would have thought that he'd just drawn a lame cartoon of a girl with a purse.
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    Image of Meangirl.is.for.the.Horde Meangirl.is.for.the.Horde
    11/12/09

    @Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC: I've gone crosseyed looking at myself in the mirror trying to figure out how I look like that drawing. Which means me and the drawing finally have one thing in common!

    Wait, let me find my purse! We can make it two things! #asians
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    Image of Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
    11/12/09

    @Meangirl.is.for.the.Horde: I'm black, but I picked up my purse and stared in the mirror and I'll be damned if I don't look exactly like that girl. Maybe there's a little Asian in my cocoa? Good to know. Good to know. #asians
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    11/12/09

    @Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC: LOL! This guy is a true master of racially aware 2-D drawing. Why hasn't Disney hired him already? #asians
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    Image of Katxyz Katxyz
    11/12/09

    In reply to "How Do You Draw Asian Women?"
    You know, all my Google Ads are now popping up with ways for me to "Meet Asian Women" but I don't think I need to after seeing that sketch. I mean, what else do I need to know? #asians
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    Image of Valkyrie607 Valkyrie607
    11/12/09

    In reply to "How Do You Draw Asian Women?"
    How to Draw An Asian Woman

    1. Find an Asian woman.

    2. Introduce yourself politely. Explain that you're an artist and you would like her to sit for you.

    3. If she doesn't think you're a perv, and you agree to her hourly rate, then you can draw her. It takes practice.

    Next Up: How to Draw a White Woman.
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    Image of Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
    11/12/09

    @Valkyrie607: Nice. #asians
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    Image of randomnessish randomnessish
    11/12/09

    In reply to "How Do You Draw Asian Women?"
    Um...not even a good drawing. You need a lesson and exaggerated pencil strokes to draw like an 8 year old? #asians
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    Image of randomslut randomslut
    11/12/09

    In reply to "How Do You Draw Asian Women?"
    I'm an Asian woman... and oh boy is this just like looking in a mirror! I have eyes and hair too!! Now just add a kimono and a Hello Kitty purse and it'll be JUST PERFECT!

    Seriously though, who is this man and can I kick him? #asians
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    Image of RupertsDrop RupertsDrop
    11/12/09

    @randomslut: I'm half Japanese. When my oldest first started school, a PTA lady came up to me and told me how lucky I am. Because I look exotic, but I'm still White.

    I had no idea how to respond to that. #asians
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    Image of randomslut randomslut
    11/12/09

    @RupertsDrop: Haha I used to get that all the time, even though I'm 100% Korean... people used to tell me that I had a "white person nose" and that I should never get plastic surgery. A blank stare usually does the trick. #asians
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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    11/12/09

    @RupertsDrop: @Clare116: I'm thinking people are getting stupider. Maybe it has something to do with the phthalates in the water bottles. #asians
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