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    Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot

    Precious Reactions Interesting, Infuriating

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    Image of I_can_still_pitch I_can_still_pitch
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    Try this Ty: "It was a dumb idea. We shouldn't have done it. Sorry."

    So easy and simple. That is how you "apologize." It's a different thing than "attempt to justify" or "rationalize."
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    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    I see how it's a problematic photo shoot concept but I still don't really think it's analogous to "blackface". It is problematic in other ways- it essentializes and co-opts races for artistic effect. That's a problem. But it's not "blackface". It is possible for a racial shoot to be problematic without it being "blackface"... I don't know if I feel comfortable using this term to describe something like this. I can't really explain why.
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    11/19/09

    @TurtleSpeak:
    I'm okay with calling it blackface. It might be possibly well-intended blackface, but it's still blackface. It doesn't have to be the clowny Sambo version to be blackface. It's still appropriation. Here's where it gets blurry: like actors, models are hired to create an illusion. Would this even be an issue if models of color were adequately represented? Would everyone be free to paint up as they pleased?

    I'm not sure what to think. As an artist, it makes me sad that racism affects even the most innocent exploration. There are things that you might be drawn to aesthetically that you might have to pull back on because of how they'll be percieved.
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    Image of TransFat TransFat
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot

    THERE IS NO TYRA ONLY ZUUL!
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    Image of hovy hovy
    11/19/09

    @TransFat: Are you the Keymaster?
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    Image of JessickerFletcher JessickerFletcher
    11/19/09


    @TransFat: You have to admit, the resemblance is striking.
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    11/19/09


    @TransFat: I'll see your Zuul and raise you one Google search for "80's hair."
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    Image of rodmanstreet rodmanstreet
    11/19/09

    @TransFat: Dana/Zuul: the original hapa.
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    Image of OneTwoPunch OneTwoPunch
    11/19/09

    @wordinedgewise: Wow. Suddenly my h.s. photo from 1986 doesn't seem so hairageous. Nice 80s find.

    ps-This is the only time I've ever resembled Ms. Weaver—when she played a sexed-up demon from an 80s movie. Crazy.
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    11/19/09


    @rodmanstreet: Maybe we should send this to Mr. Jay. I would kill to see an 80s film babe shoot: Dana/Zuul, Weird Science gal, Ally Sheedy as the Basketcase...wait they did that one...

    @wordinedgewise: It's bad enough when I'm stifling laughter about my own joke, but this put me over the top. I had to excuse myself from my desk to stop the giggles in the bathroom. Now that I'm back, they are too.
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    Image of justcallmeangel justcallmeangel
    11/19/09

    @hovy: I am the Gatekeeper.
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    Image of Understater Understater
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    It's my number one passion in my life to stretch the definition of beauty

    I thought her number one passion was slutshaming.
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    Image of futuremouse futuremouse
    11/19/09

    @Understater: I thought it was smizing.
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    Image of rodmanstreet rodmanstreet
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    Thanks for slipping that "sorta" in the title of this post. I watched this yesterday, and that SORTA came through loud and clear to me. But I felt like that was more Tyra's egomania than anything else. "Me? Admit a mistake?"
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    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    They didn't even do a realistic job on the makeup...
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    Image of wordinedgewise wordinedgewise
    11/19/09

    In reply to Tyra Banks Sorta Apologizes For "Blackface" Photoshoot
    Hmm, "batswana." Is that like Botswana, only with more bats?
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    Image of whynotshesaid whynotshesaid
    11/03/09

    In reply to Precious Reactions Interesting, Infuriating
    Did that reviewer say Sidibe looked like a ZEPPELIN?!

    *jaw drop* #preciousfilm
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    Image of WickedWitchoftheEast WickedWitchoftheEast
    11/02/09

    In reply to Precious Reactions Interesting, Infuriating
    Mr. Singularly Garish can come have dinner with my mother any time. You might think your safe at first, but you learn when to duck really quickly. #preciousfilm
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    Image of embarcadero13 embarcadero13
    11/02/09

    In reply to Precious Reactions Interesting, Infuriating
    All of this reminds me of an eternal struggle of Black people: Can anything really be "for us" and not be made to represent all of us?

    We must realize that our art/music/personal stories are consumed by the masses, which contains individuals who simply choose not to understand our intra diversity. These people simply choose to use our stories against us. So to what extent must we be careful about what stories we choose to tell? Do we appeal to the lowest common denominator? Or do we reveal our vulnerable places to a cold and ignorant society?

    I guess the simpler version of this question is found in Dave Chappelle/ Chris Rock comedy wherein many of us truly "get" what is being satirized, whereas others just point and laugh at the most superficial level.

    Double consciousness, indeed. #preciousfilm
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    11/02/09

    In reply to Precious Reactions Interesting, Infuriating
    I am now recruiting members for the "I Don't Speak Like A White Girl, I Speak Like The Educated Black Woman That I Am Club" aka IDSLAWGISLTEBWTIAC. #preciousfilm
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    Pizza!Pizza!Pizza! promoted this comment RockyMay was starred RockyMay was unstarred
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    11/02/09

    @RockyMay: Will the badges say 'We are SO articulate'? #preciousfilm
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    Image of prettypithy prettypithy
    11/02/09

    @RockyMay:

    Can I join? I was plagued by that nonsense growing up. People don't say that to me much anymore, perhaps because I'm an adult, perhaps because things have changed. Oh, who am I kidding? #preciousfilm
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    Image of RockyMay RockyMay
    11/02/09

    @Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!: Don't forget the timeless classic: "You speak so well!" #preciousfilm
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    11/02/09

    @prettypithy: I know....I want to believe that too......but I get it more as an adult than I ever did as a child. #preciousfilm
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    Image of meanteeth meanteeth
    11/02/09

    @RockyMay: or its sister "compliment" "You are so well spoken, and this [essay/paper/post-it note] is so well written!" Where can I send my charter membership application, and is there a link I can forward to my friends? #preciousfilm
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    Image of brownstocking brownstocking
    11/02/09

    @meanteeth: ahh, but have you had to show your sources for that well-written work, because you HAD to have MISTAKENLY plagiarized?! That was my first semester of college. At an HBCU. With an instructor of color. #preciousfilm
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    Rooo sez BISH PLZ promoted this comment brownstocking was starred brownstocking was unstarred
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    11/02/09

    @brownstocking: Nausea. Had your instructor recently authored a treatise on self-hate? Was it Allison "Zahara Fix Your Hair" Samuels? #preciousfilm
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    11/02/09

    @prettypithy: "Oh, who am I kidding?"

    I'm not sure.
    'Cause you know the President had it said about him during his campaign(s) -- although I'd like to think no one had the temerity to say it to his face. #preciousfilm
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    Image of brownstocking brownstocking
    11/02/09

    @Rooo sez BISH PLZ: No, just another jaded brown woman teaching too long who got surprised ONE more time. And, was, of course, my number one fan for the rest of my college career. Allison is on some ole other ish with the hair thing; she needs a sistagurl night out or something. #preciousfilm
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    Image of RedWriter RedWriter
    11/02/09

    @RockyMay: I would like to join that club. I was bullied horribly because of my actions/vocabulary/speech.
    I speak out about it now to the point where I will put people in check if I hear them say "I'm blacker than you are." #preciousfilm
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    Image of canthelpmyself canthelpmyself
    11/02/09

    @prettypithy: I don't get the whole, "You speak like a white girl" anymore, but I do get people asking me if I grew up in the south. They are then astonished when I say yes. RockyMay, I would love to join your group! #preciousfilm
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    Image of meanteeth meanteeth
    11/02/09

    @brownstocking: i did have similar, but it was a predominantly white institution, with a white TA who suggested remedial english for me, because i discussed a topic she missed in lecture. yeah, no grammatical errors, just a difference of opinion. thankfully the prof stepped up. i feel your pain, brownstocking! #preciousfilm
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    Image of RockyMay RockyMay
    11/02/09

    @canthelpmyself: Just set up a Facebook group: I Speak Like the Educated Black Woman That I Am. #preciousfilm
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    Plum-Pie promoted this comment RockyMay was starred RockyMay was unstarred
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    11/03/09

    @RedWriter: I set up a group page on Facebook: Speak Like the Educated Black Woman That I Am. #preciousfilm
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    Image of Gumbina80 Gumbina80
    11/02/09

    In reply to Precious Reactions Interesting, Infuriating
    "[T]oo singularly garish to be universal." I wish I could introduce Edelstein to my mother, who demanded that I make up for her lost welfare payments when I got a job as a teenager; who slapped me when I looked at her the wrong way; and who accused me (as a child!) of trying to steal a man she was interested in.

    I think the role of "psycho mother" is unfortunately universal. #preciousfilm
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    11/02/09

    @Gumbina80: My middle class white mother used to pull out my hair and once threw me out of a moving car. Yup. Very universal. #preciousfilm
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    Rooo sez BISH PLZ promoted this comment Truna was starred Truna was unstarred
    Image of KikiCanuck KikiCanuck
    11/02/09

    In reply to Precious Reactions Interesting, Infuriating
    Without getting into the worldview and background that would prompt the "too singularly garish to be universal" characterization, I'm not sure that this is a valid criticism, even if it were unequivocally true. If the action is poignant (check), advances the narrative (check), and is true to the world it is portraying (check), why should the fact that it isn't a universal experience matter? Are we so used to self-referential culture and middle-class archetypes and stock characters that we can't recognize any value in depictions that we might not recognize or that don't resonate with our own experiences? Isn't this missing the point? #preciousfilm
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    Image of likepenguins likepenguins
    11/02/09

    @KikiCanuck: Concurred. Rarely if ever do I find myself being a charming French sprite, doing good deeds for others to often hilarious results and falling in love with a hot stranger, but I love Amelie. #preciousfilm
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    Image of BytheSea BytheSea
    11/02/09

    @KikiCanuck: People say "it's not universal" when they mean, "it makes me think about other people's feelings and my plain sheltered brain can't handle that." #preciousfilm
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    Image of hamburgerhotdog hamburgerhotdog
    11/02/09

    In reply to Precious Reactions Interesting, Infuriating
    I'm curious if your opinion has changed since reading the book and seeing the movie (vs. going by word of review on your last post) and what your thoughts are about the two.Hope there's another post in the works! #preciousfilm
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    Image of LatoyaPeterson LatoyaPeterson
    11/02/09

    @hamburgerhotdog: Yes, it has. And I will cover that in the review. #preciousfilm
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    Image of awinoforever awinoforever
    11/02/09

    In reply to Precious Reactions Interesting, Infuriating
    it would be one thing to do a thoughtful commentary on how some audiences might not find the subject matter of the film approachable or the protagonastic relatable, because that's, you know, a valid arguement when you're discussing a film with extreme human suffering and pain. body snark and general bitchassness is another thing entirely. #preciousfilm
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    11/02/09

    @awinoforever: Yes. "general bitchassness" indeed. #preciousfilm
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