You know, I actually enjoyed Twilight (the movie, couldn't bring myself to read 400 pages of fanfiction) because of the sheer romance aspect of it. I sighed and felt my heart (and vagina) flutter.
I do enjoy a good romance. Right now I'm reading Dangerous Liaisons, while may not be romantic to some of you, I find it HIGHLY irresistible. It's the perfect romantic set up in my eyes (minus the dying at the end).
@amowls: I also read a lot of trashy "chicklit" like Bridget Jones Diary and Confessions of a Shopaholic (also ANGUS THONGS AND FULL FRONTAL SNOGGING) because I like good endings, and books that don't have pages and pages of the author moaning on with descriptions. Oh while stream of consciousness writings are en vogue or whatever, you only have to read one once to have read them all (and I have read Gravity's Rainbow kthx).
@amowls: Gravity's Rainbow is the one book I have tried (and tried and tried) to get through, and cannot for the life of me do it. I have read Dante's Paradiso in the original Italian, but GR defeats me.
Also, the romance is the only reason to like Twilight, in my humble opinion. That and Mr. Pattinson.
I LOVE romance novels. They're absolutely the best escape genre. They're well written and the women who write them are SO smart and very witty. But I still hide my collection under my bed in shoe boxes and keep my "serious" lit on the book shelf.
@cicillionaire: Set yourself free! I put mine right in the living room bookcase beside classics, nonfiction, and fantasy. Gives visitors something interesting to browse, and interestingly no one's ever commented on them negatively to me.
I'm in favor of pretty much all genre fiction getting the credit it deserves. Hell, if it's selling, there's something in it that people are buying - something they desire and that they aren't getting elsewhere. My money's on the fact that it doesn't divorce the purely intellectual from the visceral the way that so much of modern literature seems to do, the way it doesn't shun the imaginative or even the trite.
I could write much more on the subject (and have) but I'm still recovering from having spent the better part of an hour hunting down a frickin' file.
@activearchivist will always blame Nixon for everything.: Was this back in the 80s? I've heard the books were very rapey then. There's a lot more about such things at Smart Bitches, Trashy Books. A few authors still pull that today, but it's way way better than 20 years ago. Or so I hear.
@lalaland13: I have no idea what the original publishing date was, but I read it only 2-3 years ago, at my friend's insistence, because "IT WAS SO ROMANTIC." But, if there are bits of the genre that aren't so bad, I'm willing to try them again.
My mom is a librarian, with a doctorate in Library Sciences, a couple of Masters degrees thrown in there, and she owns more Romance novels than "real" books. She got me started on novels when I was young, (not intentionally, I stole them and she pretended to not know I had them) and they were very educational ;)
And now as a very serious History major, after I get done trudging through long winded speeches on the state of agriculture in 17th century middle east, I want to read a Romance novel when I lay in bed.
And since I don't currently have a man to dress up as a Scottish Laird and seduce me in his castle, I can at least read about one! Yay Escapism!
OK, what I'm going to say is kind of cheesy, but here goes: Romance novels helped me realize it was OK to be sexual.
They certainly weren't the only thing, and I probably would have figured it out eventually. And this is going to sound wrong and repressed, because it was/is. When one of my best friends lost her virginity at 19 to a guy she met on the Internet, I realized I was going to have to deal with my sexuality at some point. I couldn't repress it forever and ever, although I did pretty well for many years.
So I started buying romance novels. And realized hey, people enjoy sex outside of marriage! And they're not terrible people! It's OK to have a vagina.
Yes, many are cheesy, but some are really well-written. I don't expect some man to come find dragons for me, but I am glad for the sex-positive perspective.
@lalaland13: I don't think it's cheesy at all. About 2/3 of my sex education up until about age 18 came from Jean Auel (and let's be honest; everything from The Valley of Horses on is romance novel territory with a good coat of paleoanthropology on top).
Romance novels are books largely about sex written almost exclusively by women for women. There's a lot of potential goodness there in the sexual-awareness department.
@la.donna.pietra: Oh god, I forever bless Jean M Auel for writing so many great scenes featuring copious amounts of cunnilingus! Sadly, it took the boys in real life a few years to catch up to the example she laid down, but I'm so glad I had that shining example in my mind to strive toward/look forward to!
I started reading romance novels during bar exam preparation. I'd study until bedtime and then read trashy sex until about 2 -3 a.m. Get up the next morning and start all over again. Ever since then, anytime I'm massively stressed, I'll read a romance novel. It's like a douche for your gray matter. I used to be really embarrassed, but as someone who has read most of Faulkner and myriad other "great" books, I'm telling you that The Greats just don't get the job done when you just need to relax but still want to read words on a page. I'm reading a book right now that is so out of this world in terms of the sex they're having that it's making me laugh. It's so good it ought to be prescribed by a doctor.
@dianersb was bit by a zombie: Dangerous Games from the Tempting SEALS series by Lora Leigh. Seriously, I think my face is red admitting this! This one is set in the BDSM world, but each in the series is just flat-out hot sex with really good tension leading up thereto. Ha ha ha! I'm making myself laugh that I'm recommending this book! I even went out to my car at lunch to read for 20 minutes!
I enjoy nothing else on earth quite as much as coming up with the most utterly ridiculous euphemisms for every single part of the act of sexual congress. "Tumescent" is such a wonderful word, as is "Turgid".
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"His hard smoothness and strength"
"his distended loins" (That sounds like a medical condition)
"Her downy mound"
Yes, I did briefly write this stuff, why do you ask?
I always disdained romance novels until I had a roommate in college who read several a week (I am the type of person who will read anything if its lying around). I'm not a regular romance novel reader, but there really is something for every taste. Its not all vaginas as flowers and pulsating manhood.
I find it really strange to call them books about emotion though, they're pretty much porn in a woman friendly packaging. The characters don't usually fall in love at the beginning, they fall in love after several sessions of woman centered dirty sex. Half the time they seem to fall in love just to give the book an ending.
I know some women like porn films, but I think there would be a lot more female porn fans if porn included hotter men, people who seem to respect each other and a focus on cunnilingus rather than fellatio. Then it would basically be a live action romance novel.
@clevernamehere: Depends on the subgenre! Some of it is straight-up erotica (fastest growing romance category). The more mainstream stuff is getting hotter all the time. And then you have the Christian romance, where they're not even allowed to WANT to do it (also a growth category!)
I have no strong opinions as to whether Romance shall be our new literary overlord in a less androgen-oriented world. I will, however, confess that the biggest hurdle to my conversion will be the names of the characters, if my mom's books are anything to judge by. "Nikalaos." "Alasdair." :me stalling out in reading further like my cousin's hatchback on a drizzly day:
I can manage to get over this hang-up with Sci-fi sometimes, though.
25% of fiction books sold are romance novels!? That's pretty impressive.
As someone who spends most of her time reading and teaching "literature" for a living, sometimes I just need the escape and the happy ending that comes with it.
Sadie points out that people who assume that because an ending is a forgone conclusion, there's no point in the journey are missing the point, and she's right. Sometimes, the best part of reading a book is the fact that its HEA gives you a few moments of pleasure before you head back to your stress filled life.
First thing I read upon completing my Master's last week? Read a romance novel. They are fun. And if you choose the right authors they are fun, have interesting plotlines, strong female characters, and are a great way to spend an afternoon.
My best friend is a romance novelist (with the first in a four-book series coming out in September, yay!), and my eyes have been opened by her love for the genre. I'm still not likely to devour romance novels with regularity, but I read the ones she sends me, and I enjoy them.
More to the point, the women who write and read them seem to be a smart, open-minded bunch - it really is an open and accepting community, and I love it!
@queenieinmanhattan: Funnily enough, my friend has her first romance book (in a three-book deal) coming out later this year too, and I'm totally inspired by her love of the genre. Apparently not inspired enough to actually read anything yet, but I'm getting there, maybe.
@queenieinmanhattan: I think that romance novel writing is also more of a "fun" environment. You read them for escapism and fun, and I think that a lot of the writers write them because they are fun.
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I do enjoy a good romance. Right now I'm reading Dangerous Liaisons, while may not be romantic to some of you, I find it HIGHLY irresistible. It's the perfect romantic set up in my eyes (minus the dying at the end).
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Also, the romance is the only reason to like Twilight, in my humble opinion. That and Mr. Pattinson.
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I could write much more on the subject (and have) but I'm still recovering from having spent the better part of an hour hunting down a frickin' file.
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And now as a very serious History major, after I get done trudging through long winded speeches on the state of agriculture in 17th century middle east, I want to read a Romance novel when I lay in bed.
And since I don't currently have a man to dress up as a Scottish Laird and seduce me in his castle, I can at least read about one! Yay Escapism!
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They certainly weren't the only thing, and I probably would have figured it out eventually. And this is going to sound wrong and repressed, because it was/is. When one of my best friends lost her virginity at 19 to a guy she met on the Internet, I realized I was going to have to deal with my sexuality at some point. I couldn't repress it forever and ever, although I did pretty well for many years.
So I started buying romance novels. And realized hey, people enjoy sex outside of marriage! And they're not terrible people! It's OK to have a vagina.
Yes, many are cheesy, but some are really well-written. I don't expect some man to come find dragons for me, but I am glad for the sex-positive perspective.
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Romance novels are books largely about sex written almost exclusively by women for women. There's a lot of potential goodness there in the sexual-awareness department.
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Other favorites:
"His hard smoothness and strength"
"his distended loins" (That sounds like a medical condition)
"Her downy mound"
Yes, I did briefly write this stuff, why do you ask?
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I find it really strange to call them books about emotion though, they're pretty much porn in a woman friendly packaging. The characters don't usually fall in love at the beginning, they fall in love after several sessions of woman centered dirty sex. Half the time they seem to fall in love just to give the book an ending.
I know some women like porn films, but I think there would be a lot more female porn fans if porn included hotter men, people who seem to respect each other and a focus on cunnilingus rather than fellatio. Then it would basically be a live action romance novel.
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I can manage to get over this hang-up with Sci-fi sometimes, though.
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As someone who spends most of her time reading and teaching "literature" for a living, sometimes I just need the escape and the happy ending that comes with it.
Sadie points out that people who assume that because an ending is a forgone conclusion, there's no point in the journey are missing the point, and she's right. Sometimes, the best part of reading a book is the fact that its HEA gives you a few moments of pleasure before you head back to your stress filled life.
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More to the point, the women who write and read them seem to be a smart, open-minded bunch - it really is an open and accepting community, and I love it!
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