@notheretomakefriends: And don't forget the scary music! Who can be expected to drive with such an ominous soundtrack? If only my husband were here to take the wheel and save me from having to do this!
(BTW, despite your name, I'm friending you for the seven-legged spider.)
WOW Jezzies...look at some of the comments on the pictures.
On the pic "I don't like the back seat!":
"lol....my dear....u are goood at writing,,,but its for your own safety... women must not left alone...in islam...and thats for good of both man and women.... you know how exactly west world is.....i think the government is doing it rite."
and another one:
"how pleasure it's to be drived.the roads in the kingdom need fast driving and braveness.if u got some1 to do for u the driving,u should be proud of.i am against that if woman drive there is alot of dangers,but my confidence in saudi women is high.not driving does not mean u r denied right,but means u r well cared of.Thank ur creator for that"
@Slovenly Muse: Holy fuck. Right now I am very, very grateful to live in a country that sees things like driving as gender-neutral privileges, and not be condescended to by being told I'm being 'protected' when those privileges are withheld from me simply by virtue of the fact that I happen to have two X chromosomes. Unbelievable.
Oh, and don't forget, as soon as women started driving in the west, that was the last straw. Cue the downfall of society!
@Horsefeathers! is still a redhead on the inside: Aren't drivers more likely to survive car accidents than passengers? If they REALLY wanted to protect women by taking away their rights, you'd think they'd make driving mandatory!
"I AM A HUMAN BEING WHO IS NO BETTER AND NO WORSE THAN YOU AND DESERVES EQUAL RIGHTS. OK, MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER THAN YOU, INDIVIDUALLY, BECAUSE YOU ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO DENY MY RIGHTS. AND IF THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU, THEN I APOLOGIZE. AND NOW IT APPEARS I'VE RUN OUT OF ROOM ON THIS STI"
Very cool, but clearly a hard uphill battle when at least some hold the belief, based on the article, that not driving represents how highly valued Saudi women are.
Facebook is going to be around for awhile so I have no doubt these kids won't appreciate the day that they create their own account only to find that their mom felt it necessary to show them sucking on their tit. It really annoys me that mom's act like there is something wrong with me for being grossed out or uncomfortable by seeing a baby sucking on a nipple, witnessing the changing of a dirty diaper, watching a kid running around exposed playing with themselves, etc b/c "it's natural." Yeah well my period is natural and I don't go around exposing bloody tampons. It's like their screaming, "Hey, look what I can do!"
I think it's time to paraphrase Elyse Sewell from ANTM season 1: "If people want to look at the sacks of fat and glands that hang off my chest, I don't understand why, but it's okay with me"
@avery1458: Bonding is a lovely ancillary benefit of breastfeeding but breastfeeding is, ultimately, a way to feed your baby. You feed them when they're hungry. If they're hungry when you're in public, you do it in public or you find someplace else to go if you don't feel comfortable doing that.
@avery1458: Feeding CAN be a private bonding experience but breasts are pretty utilitarian and it's ridiculous to insist that breastfeeding moms make each and every feeding time a "private experience."
@SarahMC: No, it's not ridiculous. One can use a bathroom, if it is impossible then that is one thing.
But it's not when you are sitting in a restaurant or cafe. I would personally think that I would not want to have people ogling me when I could find a private place.
@Maritsa: I think her point is that nobody NEEDS to be in Starbucks. And just like all social activities, people should take others comfort into account, not just their own.
That RUDE people ogle breastfeeding women is their own problem, not the woman's problem. You don't want to deal with idiots staring at you (and who does?!), then you can sit on the toilet to breastfeed when your time comes.
@Delia_Green: So you are basically saying that breastfeeding women either confine themselves to the home or not breastfeed. Do I have that right? Some people aren't comfortable with people of different races! Or disabled people! Hell, I don't like looking at people who are ugly as sin but I would never suggest they take my superficial comfort seriously when deciding whether to venture into public.
@SarahMC: I don't think that you understand what I'm saying. I am not blaming the woman for people staring. But I'm not just talking about men, I'm also talking about children staring.
I am also not telling people to always take other's comfort into account, I knew someone would bring up race. But, this is not as irrational as being uncomfortable with one's race.
I just have the impression, (granted this is anecdotal), that some women feel that because they have children, they might get a free pass.
I cannot wait to have children, but hopefully I won't turn into a woman who believes she has the right to push people out of the way with my $350 stroller on a crowded city street. Or one who thinks that breast feeding in a family diner or cafe is totally normal because I wasn't the one who sexualized the breast.
@Delia_Green: Oh, my bad. I didn't realize nursing moms were supposed to be confined to their homes or other places they NEED to be.
I can't believe breastfeeding in public is taken as some kind of bad manners. That's fucked up. If you don't like breastfeeding in public, don't do it. And look away if someone else is doing it. Or does your neck not work?
@avery1458: You are right. Children should never be exposed to body parts they probably once ate from. Sorry but we're just not going to agree on this.
@avery1458: "But I'm not just talking about men, I'm also talking about children staring."
So what are you saying? Children look because they're curious, especially about babies and how they themselves grew. They aren't the outraged ones; adults get outraged on their behalf. And babies need to be fed right when they're hungry. You think your argument would be irrational applied to race, but it's not when it only affects women? That's plainly sexist.
@avery1458: @HanaMaru: I just wish breastfeeding would not be so marginalized in American society. Why should I have had to hide in a germy bathroom to spare the feelings of people I don't even know or care about? My baby was eating, which is a normal human function.
@Mimi: I agree with that. I'm someone who doesn't want children or particularly enjoy the company of children, but I don't want to ban nursing mothers from public life(including my facebook feed).
05/09/09
Heh. My instructor passed me anyway. Clear the roads, people, I'm coming out!
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Anyone else reminded of this little gem?
05/09/09
'Asshole', a name so different, it's registered.
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(BTW, despite your name, I'm friending you for the seven-legged spider.)
05/09/09
on a side note, I don't even have a license, my instructor said I was a public menace, and trust me, he is quite right ;)
05/08/09
On the pic "I don't like the back seat!":
"lol....my dear....u are goood at writing,,,but its for your own safety... women must not left alone...in islam...and thats for good of both man and women.... you know how exactly west world is.....i think the government is doing it rite."
and another one:
"how pleasure it's to be drived.the roads in the kingdom need fast driving and braveness.if u got some1 to do for u the driving,u should be proud of.i am against that if woman drive there is alot of dangers,but my confidence in saudi women is high.not driving does not mean u r denied right,but means u r well cared of.Thank ur creator for that"
WOW. WOW.
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Oh, and don't forget, as soon as women started driving in the west, that was the last straw. Cue the downfall of society!
WTF?
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'Safety' Commenter: "AAAAAmmmmm...yea right....never thought about that...lol...wish u good luck"
N7nu, saving the world from inanity, one commenter at a time.
05/08/09
I want to drive b/c my boyfriend sux at it.
I want to drive b/c my car is way cooler than his.
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-Sticker from Springsteen Arabia.
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I want to drive because there is no mayo in my sandwich.
I want to drive because it's quite hot for May.
I want to drive because it's none of your damn business, I want to drive.
05/08/09
No, wait, it has nothing to do with whether or not I should drive. My mistake.
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@cwisto moweina has got yer goat: If the vagina demands it, then it should be granted.
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Sing it, sister.
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It's kind of like the breast feeding in Starbucks thing. I just think that it should be a private thing that brings you and your baby close together.
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But it's not when you are sitting in a restaurant or cafe. I would personally think that I would not want to have people ogling me when I could find a private place.
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That RUDE people ogle breastfeeding women is their own problem, not the woman's problem. You don't want to deal with idiots staring at you (and who does?!), then you can sit on the toilet to breastfeed when your time comes.
12/30/08
Some people aren't comfortable with people of different races! Or disabled people! Hell, I don't like looking at people who are ugly as sin but I would never suggest they take my superficial comfort seriously when deciding whether to venture into public.
12/30/08
I am also not telling people to always take other's comfort into account, I knew someone would bring up race. But, this is not as irrational as being uncomfortable with one's race.
I just have the impression, (granted this is anecdotal), that some women feel that because they have children, they might get a free pass.
I cannot wait to have children, but hopefully I won't turn into a woman who believes she has the right to push people out of the way with my $350 stroller on a crowded city street. Or one who thinks that breast feeding in a family diner or cafe is totally normal because I wasn't the one who sexualized the breast.
12/30/08
I can't believe breastfeeding in public is taken as some kind of bad manners. That's fucked up. If you don't like breastfeeding in public, don't do it. And look away if someone else is doing it. Or does your neck not work?
12/30/08
Sorry but we're just not going to agree on this.
12/30/08
I totally understand the other point of view, I just don't totally agree with it.
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So what are you saying? Children look because they're curious, especially about babies and how they themselves grew. They aren't the outraged ones; adults get outraged on their behalf. And babies need to be fed right when they're hungry. You think your argument would be irrational applied to race, but it's not when it only affects women? That's plainly sexist.
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