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11/21/09
It's ridiculous. And couldn't we get a better handle on things like the spread of STDs if this shit was legalized?
11/21/09
I think by legalizing it, it would help those who were brought in from other countries who feel they can't go to police [or their passports were taken away by the people who brought them here]. I was surprised that this still happens a lot.
11/21/09
11/21/09
They do not significantly help the actual sex workers because the johns are not required to prove they are STI free.
Those laws are generally written from the perspective of protecting the innocent women who are married to johns, not the sex workers. It is a useful public health policy, but it basically treats sex workers like Typhoid Marys.
11/22/09
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11/23/09
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It could be feasible to make johns bring a certified recent STI screen to a legal brothel, but no one does it. Even the liberal Dutch. The policies are very much about protecting the johns and their non-sex worker partners.
11/20/09
11/20/09
I don't hate Bell de Jour, but she does make me roll my eyes. She is selling a very happy go lucky, hyper sexualized, john friendly view of sex work. It feels very calculated. It is impressive that she has managed to spin a year of part-time sex work into three books, but she is selling what people want to read.
11/20/09
11/20/09
I don't think her writing says much, if anything about the sex industry. She basically writes sexy beach reads, which is fine but shouldn't be treated as anything else.
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11/20/09
Admittedly, role playing this with someone I'm in a relationship has always been a curiosity and is probably less likely to disappoint me or get me arrested. :)
*Not dirty in a physiological way, but, well, a sex for money way. Naughty is probably a better word.
11/20/09
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11/20/09
I don't feel that it IS negative. But look at some of the comments in this thread. "Guys who can't get girlfriends pay for sex." "I bet these pieces of shit can't get women on their own."
There's a stigma attached to it and that stigma, that of doing something that *others* find questionable is much of the appeal.
11/20/09
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11/20/09
Also, I never stated I didn't have a fetish or two. I just said that my interest in paying for sex isn't about having a fetish that someone else refuses share with me.
Also, also, I feel like there's a feeling of expertness that comes along with prostitution. That likely, if it's someone's profession, they're particularly good at it. Do they know something I don't know? Do they possess tricks that I've been ignorant about for years and years? I've always been attracted to women with more sexual experience than I have and that's a significant part of this as well.
11/20/09
11/20/09
Many users post something personal about themselves on a given topic. That's all my intent was, I'm sorry if it was particularly irritating or off-putting.
11/20/09
I don't see anything wrong with his response, morally.
Subverting normal power roles is a large part of human sexuality- it's only abhorrent to me if a man acts that way in real life. Dominatrixes don't go around beating people in the grocery checkout line, so if a man wants to pay a sex worker because it feels transgressive, it's none of my business unless he also offers his female money for sexual favors because that feels transgressive, too.
This is all unrelated to the myriad other issues about prostitution (who's forced into it, who's able to leave it, how they're being treated while they're in it), but I don't feel Jeremy's said anything horrible here. The question was why might some men be interested in purchasing the services of a sex worker, and he answered from his personal perspective.
11/20/09
11/20/09
With that being said, I think chances of it being a good experience for the prostitute go up significantly if she is educated and "high end." There is a greater chance that she has other options and that prostitution is actually a choice for her.
Just don't act like visiting prostitutes is some harmless fetish, or a "victimless" crime, because I really, really don't think it is.
Not all people in sex work are victims, but as a John, you can never be sure if you are, in fact, a victimizer.
11/20/09
11/21/09
I appreciate that 'Belle's' account of being a sex worker is one that is appealing to many as at reinforces the fantasy element of the sex trade, but it not a realistic account, it is a marketing tool.
11/21/09
11/21/09
I know that the sex trade is dehumanising, but if we're talking about a woman who didn't find it that way, why is it wrong to talk about a man who also enjoys it?
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11/20/09
Apparently that's incorrect. You pay prostitutes to agree to sleep with your sorry, rich, self-loathing ass so you can avoid feeling the sting of rejection. Go figure!
11/20/09
I find this quote confusing.
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11/20/09
Wow. Interesting take.
11/20/09
10/21/09
Her life is "great", the men are "gentlemen" and I totally "believe" her. #prostitution
10/21/09
10/21/09
The hard part too is separating yourself from the lies. Where does working Allie end and real Allie begin? #prostitution
10/20/09
As for the classic comparison of trophy wives to prostitutes, it's still just as stupid as it was all those years ago. There's the issue of monogamy and of a legal contract. But there's also the issue of still acting like calling women "trophy wives" is somehow a reasonable, enlightened observation. It isn't. #prostitution
10/21/09
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10/21/09
I'm also curious how many of them have used the term 'whore' before.
What? You don't want an occupation that is the basis for one of the most ubiquitous slurs of all time? #prostitution
10/20/09
But really, I get the race and class difference and the upper class chick doesn't HAVE to go into being a whore but chooses to. The other gal seems to be turning tricks for survival. I'm calling shenanigans on these authors. FAIL. #prostitution
10/20/09
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10/21/09
I think these writers, and lots of American men, see the college degree and the nice bedroom and good grooming and somehow convince themselves that high end "escorts" are not prostitutes, or whores. Then they can believe that hiring an escort is somehow better than picking up a hooker on the street. It's the same thing, just in a prettier package and way more expensive. #prostitution
10/21/09
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10/20/09
Like if I offered you the opportunity to trade in your car for a newer, sportier model. It does't say that one is better than the other in all cases, merely that the opportunity is available. #prostitution
10/20/09
10/20/09
God damn it I should know better than to read articles about prostitution written by men. #prostitution