Outdoorsy proposals are dangerous business! An ex of mine (now a marriage counsellor but that's another story) took his girlfriend canoeing on Lake Superior with the intention of proposing. They would up getting lost out in the lake and having to be airlifted from the boat by the Coast Guard. I'm not sure when the actual proposal wound up occurring, as I imagine it's kind of difficult to slide a ring on a frostbitten finger.
I have a friend like this who always thinks the guy she's with is THE ONE and somehow the guy at the time always wants to spend the rest of his life with her...buuuut the relationships always fall apart,they turn over at an incredible rate(i.e. there's a new guy every few months), are really complicated, blah blah blah...but they are always completely enamored with her.
I don't understand this phenomenon...I've been with my guy for over a year with minimal complications and no marriage proposal in sight. We're going at a steady pace knowing that neither one of us are ready for that kind of commitment for at least 8 more years(I'm 21 he's 23).
It makes me question the sincerity of my friend's significant others.
Anyone who regards marriage as some kind of "should" or "must do by X age" is already practically swathed in red flags anyway.
Preach! My best friend just told me she's moving back to her hometown to be "supportive" and help her to her horrible, negative, miserable family thru a bunch of silly DRAMA! and (wait for it) increase her chances to find a husband. After all, she IS 30 now and time is running out!
I think proposals are weird in general. This is supposedly about a lifelong commitment-it seems to me there might be more success if people entered into it after a discussion...
I feel sorry for all those women who aren't self-assured and they attract the douchebags who want to "put their mark" on them. I hope they all eventually find nice guys to spend their lives with.
I'm proud of my strong personality and even if it doesn't give me more guys for the taking, at least I can weed out the unworthy ones and find the worthy guys.
Is she counting the proposals that come wrapped in catcalls as you're walking down the street? Because if you count those, I've got her beat by about a THOUSAND. What can I say, there were a lot of winos on the corner of my old block.
I get gay-marriage proposals here on Jezebel on the daily. It makes a lady feel special.
But seriously. I kind of don't mind this. The lady realized she was being kind of a doormat, then said "I'm going to start being myself", and then it sounds like she had some much better relationships. What bugs me is the OTHER ladies mentioned in the article, who are so DESPERATE to have their long-term boyfriends propose. Why don't they actually talk about it with their significant others? If you are simply ITCHING to get hitched, and your partner is terrified of marriage, um, aren't there maybe some issues to address there?
Also, it's the 21st freakin' century. If you and your partner are ready to commit for reals, and he just hasn't popped the question yet, YOU CAN ASK HIM.
Having never once been proposed to- even by my now-husband (we just decided together one night, no ring or knees involved)- I think this has a lot to do with the social group that one is part of. The vast majority if not all of my coupled friends have co-habited for years or even decades before marrying, and many have not and will not ever marry each other. But I have cousins who are more, um, mainstream? traditional? I don't know a good neutral term for it, but they and their friends and siblings were ALL married by 26, kids by 30, etc.
Not saying it's not about the woman herself, but that the expectations of a particular social group play a big role in whether marriage/ engagement is valued and/ or expected.
What about when you think they're talking about marriage to you as a hypothetical, and you are like, "Yes, that would be nice, to eat breakfast together sometimes," and then suddenly they're like, "I think you should take my last name"? Because that shit is awful. I don't know what I'm trying to say here.
@Khrushchev: lol yeah my boyfriend does that. He's older than me, so for him I think it's more of a pressing time issue, whereas I'm just like "yeah, I'll get around to it eventually- hey, let's go to Korea!" He is often unimpressed.
@Khrushchev: Oh woof. Its like conversational relationship entrapment. It's difficult to put the brakes on that kind of chit chat, there is no easy way to steer it back to eggs and waffles.
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I don't understand this phenomenon...I've been with my guy for over a year with minimal complications and no marriage proposal in sight. We're going at a steady pace knowing that neither one of us are ready for that kind of commitment for at least 8 more years(I'm 21 he's 23).
It makes me question the sincerity of my friend's significant others.
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Preach! My best friend just told me she's moving back to her hometown to be "supportive" and help her to her horrible, negative, miserable family thru a bunch of silly DRAMA! and (wait for it) increase her chances to find a husband. After all, she IS 30 now and time is running out!
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Would you like fries with that?
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"It's the question every woman longs to be asked..."
YEAH FAIL.
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I'm proud of my strong personality and even if it doesn't give me more guys for the taking, at least I can weed out the unworthy ones and find the worthy guys.
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YEAH.
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Maybe we drink together too much.
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I no likey this lady.
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But seriously. I kind of don't mind this. The lady realized she was being kind of a doormat, then said "I'm going to start being myself", and then it sounds like she had some much better relationships. What bugs me is the OTHER ladies mentioned in the article, who are so DESPERATE to have their long-term boyfriends propose. Why don't they actually talk about it with their significant others? If you are simply ITCHING to get hitched, and your partner is terrified of marriage, um, aren't there maybe some issues to address there?
Also, it's the 21st freakin' century. If you and your partner are ready to commit for reals, and he just hasn't popped the question yet, YOU CAN ASK HIM.
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Not saying it's not about the woman herself, but that the expectations of a particular social group play a big role in whether marriage/ engagement is valued and/ or expected.
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