Sarah, just because you admittedly thought about aborting your "not perfect" baby, that doesn't necessarily mean that that is the only reason people think about abortion... #sarahpalin
@redqueenmeg: While not the sole reason, apparently, people do that quite a lot. About upwards of 90% of Down Syndrome pregnancies are aborted. But it still stands that I wouldn't want some stranger to tell me how to handle a situation like that. #sarahpalin
Here's what I don't understand: aren't Republicans constantly accusing Liberals of glorifying single motherhood thus creating all of society's ills? Yet, Sarah says that women can pursue any dream they want and raise a child? It's this kind of double talk that infuriates me. They do everything they can to encourage a woman to keep the baby, then after she gives birth they leave her high and dry. #sarahpalin
Sarah Palin's only purpose to draw the true believers of the paranoid wing of the Republican Party. And she's doing an excellent job. It is the job of the sane and rational to ensure that these people never elect a national candidate. I am so ready for her and her cabal of myopic followers. I hope everyone else is, too. #sarahpalin
May I ask a few very naive question? Living in a country which has had government health care for every single citizen for about 60 years now, I'm afraid I just don't get it, I've read several articles on it and I can't quite grasp the problem. Isn't general health care a good thing for most people?
Whats the alternative, keeping the old system were you are not insured if you can't afford private care? Is there another suggestion?
Don't they know that there are quite a lot of nations that have government health care and state pension systems and it works more or less satisfactory. (it is awfully expensive, that's true)
Nobody goes around euthanizing the elderly to save taxes.
And, where does the pro choice argument tie in with all that?
Sorry for asking, but I'm just very perplexed #sarahpalin
@AvaAdore: I'm an American and I'm perplexed, too. I think some of it is simply fear of change. Some of it is a phobia that a lot of Americans have about anything resembling Socialism, which some people see as on a slippery slope toward Communism. Anyone who grew up in the 50's, 60's, 70's or '80's remember when the Communists were our mortal enemies. (I had to take a class called "Americanism vs. Communism" to graduate from HS in Florida in the early '80's.)
The attitude of the anti-abortionists is pretty easy to understand: they don't want any tax money (their money) to pay for anyone's abortion and they'll use any tactic they can to undermine our right to have one, no matter how big a lie it is. #sarahpalin
I have to say, that is pretty clever of her speech writers. To suggest that making sure women have reproductive rights is actually INSULTING to women, suggesting they are stupid or not strong, that means that pro-lifers can claim they are feminists that actually respect women. Repulsive, but very clever. #sarahpalin
Asinine lies like these have spread and people believe them; they believe them to the point that they begin standing up for complete untruths. Today, I was driving home from the store (my weekly boxed wine run) when I spy a small loud group in front of the federal building, holding signs reading "Obama Care Kills the Elderly," " Obama Care = Death" and "No Free Abortions." At that point, I absolutely lost my shit.
I roll down the window and scream, "GODDAMNIT YOU LIE SPREADING IDIOTS! YOU ARE EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY. YOU ARE WRONG! WRONG! FUCK YOU AND YOUR REPUBLICAN BULLSHIT!!!" at which point I drove away.
It was the most logical response I could muster for them. #sarahpalin
@RenoMartini: I'm glad to know I am not the only one who has ever lost it and shouted at moronic "protesters."
What are you protesting, exactly? The fact that you're white and wealthy and that the entirety of our nations' systems and standards have been designed by you and for your benefit?
Funny story--back in 2000, I drove by a small group of anti-recount protesters who were in favor of GWB stealing the election. I was on a traffic circle, and was about to reach my exit in heavy traffic. Instead, I decided to roll my window down and shout "BUSH is SATAN!" at the top of my lungs. Now, I don't even believe in Satan, but I had to put my message into words these people could understand. One of them actually dropped his sign (mission accomplished! and I don't mean that in the ironic Aircraft-Carrrier-Stuffed-Crotch-Fake-Fl... way!) and began approaching my car. The other cars on the circle starting beeping at him and yelling for him to get off the road. He did, but apparently one of the other motorists called the cops on him anyway for disturbing traffic. Totally worth an extra 30 minutes to get back around to my exit. #sarahpalin
i don't get how the elderly will be targeted for euthanasia should a government-backed healthcare plan kick in. i thought the majority of elderly are already in medicare, which is a government-backed healthcare plan?
what saddens me the most is that so many people are too stupid to connect the dots in this simple way: elderly=medicare=government healthcare. #sarahpalin
This rhetoric makes me livid because it's flat out lying...and for whatever reason, it works.
And I'm so frustrated because it's almost impossible to convince anyone who thinks being Pro-Choice is anything like what she's saying that it's not. It's the polar opposite.
I absolutely do believe women are capable of doing those things, as long as there's a system in place that helps make that possible. But I also believe no woman should be forced to carry to term. Because I wouldn't want anyone to be forced to abort. Is that so hard to understand? That choice is about ALL of this? It's about being able to have an "imperfect" child without having to suffer for it? About not being forced to, but being able to choose to?
And to be frank, life at any cost is not, in my opinion, always the most compassionate view. There are birth defects, deformities, and congenital conditions that it is in every way a compassionate decision to terminate.
People can choose not to, but I'm tired of the idea that Pro-Choice is some kind of callous position.
Further, I want our elderly folks to be cared for. I'm sickened by the way we abandon them and are so afraid of that stage of life that we just shuffle off the responsibility. Being Pro-Choice hasn't hampered my ability to understand all the ethical nuances in both situations. And I'm disgusted that this woman would make such a suggestion.
It's just so wrong to to say these things. So wrong and awful and destructive. #sarahpalin
@tiredfairy: Right on to everything you said. Especially the point about how terminating a pregnancy can actually be the compassionate, ethical choice sometimes. #sarahpalin
@Cerridwen: I'm just so tired of it. And I am Pro-Choice, fully, no matter what. I don't believe it's any of my business why someone would need to terminate a pregnancy, because I sure wouldn't want someone deciding that for me.
I just can't fathom equating one with the other. Being Pro-Choice doesn't make you inhuman or unethical or not compassionate. I'd actually argue that, because being Pro-Choice requires taking a much more difficult political position...and because advocating for choices will always be advocating for something technically more difficult than having things required/dictated of you...then you're more likely to be compassionate and ethical and understanding of nuance. Because you have to be. That's pretty much the nature of choice, in any circumstance. #sarahpalin
This whole "pro-choice people want to euthanize the elderly" thing is pissing me off. The whole anti-choice argument is that abortion is killing an innocent life that can't defend itself, so to apply that to the elderly completely robs them of their agency. It is so condescending. I wish she would just say, "I'm mean they're old; it's not like they can take care of themselves!" and get it over with.
I not really afraid of Palin and her circus sideshow, I'm afraid of the number of people who seem to agree with her. Those people frighten me to my core. #sarahpalin
[Society should be] sending a message right now [, that it should have] for probably the last 40 years, that a woman [is] strong enough [and] smart enough to be able to pursue an education, a career and [make decisions about her own body without the intrusion of the government by religiously motivated conservatives blowhards like myself and my followers].
Shes implying that women who choose not to give birth are not strong? Do. Not. Like.
She gives me an instant migraine, every time she speaks. Or writes. Or appears. #sarahpalin
Ms. Palin, don't rag on mind-sets just because you can't afford one.
P.S. I'm pretty sure that if she did have a mind, her "mind-set" would consist of aerial wolf-hunting, sports journalism, and the distrust of logic. Words cannot express my growing dislike for this human being; her and her redneck family single-handedly display everything that is wrong with our culture today. I truly hope something horrible and shocking comes out about her because I am so sick and tired of people listening to this vacuous bitch. #sarahpalin
@JessickerFletcher:
Palin: "Mind set"? Is that like a sweater set? Pshht. How quickly you forgot about my wardrobe budget during the campaign! #sarahpalin
@rodmanstreet: "Mind-set? I think you mean drill-set, as in 'Todd just gave me this beautiful drill-set for Christmas, ya know. He had 'Drill, Baby, Drill' engraved on side! You betcha he's my First Dude!" #sarahpalin
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If she's raising money for anything, I think it should be for a college education. For herself. #sarahpalin
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But she's just stressing on the normal-or-perfect thing here and making some point about old people. It's utterly ridiculous. #sarahpalin
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Whats the alternative, keeping the old system were you are not insured if you can't afford private care? Is there another suggestion?
Don't they know that there are quite a lot of nations that have government health care and state pension systems and it works more or less satisfactory. (it is awfully expensive, that's true)
Nobody goes around euthanizing the elderly to save taxes.
And, where does the pro choice argument tie in with all that?
Sorry for asking, but I'm just very perplexed #sarahpalin
11/07/09
The attitude of the anti-abortionists is pretty easy to understand: they don't want any tax money (their money) to pay for anyone's abortion and they'll use any tactic they can to undermine our right to have one, no matter how big a lie it is. #sarahpalin
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I roll down the window and scream, "GODDAMNIT YOU LIE SPREADING IDIOTS! YOU ARE EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY. YOU ARE WRONG! WRONG! FUCK YOU AND YOUR REPUBLICAN BULLSHIT!!!" at which point I drove away.
It was the most logical response I could muster for them. #sarahpalin
11/08/09
What are you protesting, exactly? The fact that you're white and wealthy and that the entirety of our nations' systems and standards have been designed by you and for your benefit?
Funny story--back in 2000, I drove by a small group of anti-recount protesters who were in favor of GWB stealing the election. I was on a traffic circle, and was about to reach my exit in heavy traffic. Instead, I decided to roll my window down and shout "BUSH is SATAN!" at the top of my lungs. Now, I don't even believe in Satan, but I had to put my message into words these people could understand. One of them actually dropped his sign (mission accomplished! and I don't mean that in the ironic Aircraft-Carrrier-Stuffed-Crotch-Fake-Fl... way!) and began approaching my car. The other cars on the circle starting beeping at him and yelling for him to get off the road. He did, but apparently one of the other motorists called the cops on him anyway for disturbing traffic. Totally worth an extra 30 minutes to get back around to my exit. #sarahpalin
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what saddens me the most is that so many people are too stupid to connect the dots in this simple way: elderly=medicare=government healthcare. #sarahpalin
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And I'm so frustrated because it's almost impossible to convince anyone who thinks being Pro-Choice is anything like what she's saying that it's not. It's the polar opposite.
I absolutely do believe women are capable of doing those things, as long as there's a system in place that helps make that possible. But I also believe no woman should be forced to carry to term. Because I wouldn't want anyone to be forced to abort. Is that so hard to understand? That choice is about ALL of this? It's about being able to have an "imperfect" child without having to suffer for it? About not being forced to, but being able to choose to?
And to be frank, life at any cost is not, in my opinion, always the most compassionate view. There are birth defects, deformities, and congenital conditions that it is in every way a compassionate decision to terminate.
People can choose not to, but I'm tired of the idea that Pro-Choice is some kind of callous position.
Further, I want our elderly folks to be cared for. I'm sickened by the way we abandon them and are so afraid of that stage of life that we just shuffle off the responsibility. Being Pro-Choice hasn't hampered my ability to understand all the ethical nuances in both situations. And I'm disgusted that this woman would make such a suggestion.
It's just so wrong to to say these things. So wrong and awful and destructive. #sarahpalin
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I just can't fathom equating one with the other. Being Pro-Choice doesn't make you inhuman or unethical or not compassionate. I'd actually argue that, because being Pro-Choice requires taking a much more difficult political position...and because advocating for choices will always be advocating for something technically more difficult than having things required/dictated of you...then you're more likely to be compassionate and ethical and understanding of nuance. Because you have to be. That's pretty much the nature of choice, in any circumstance. #sarahpalin
11/07/09
Sarah Palin is despicable. #sarahpalin
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[Society should be] sending a message right now [, that it should have] for probably the last 40 years, that a woman [is] strong enough [and] smart enough to be able to pursue an education, a career and [make decisions about her own body without the intrusion of the government by religiously motivated conservatives blowhards like myself and my followers].
Whew - that was a lot of work.
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She gives me an instant migraine, every time she speaks. Or writes. Or appears. #sarahpalin
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P.S. I'm pretty sure that if she did have a mind, her "mind-set" would consist of aerial wolf-hunting, sports journalism, and the distrust of logic. Words cannot express my growing dislike for this human being; her and her redneck family single-handedly display everything that is wrong with our culture today. I truly hope something horrible and shocking comes out about her because I am so sick and tired of people listening to this vacuous bitch. #sarahpalin
11/07/09
Palin: "Mind set"? Is that like a sweater set? Pshht. How quickly you forgot about my wardrobe budget during the campaign! #sarahpalin
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