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    Literary Ambitions

    Classics

    Pride And Prejudice: The Comic Book

    Yes, They Did

    Zombie Nation

    Killing Jane

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    Jane Austen Has Nothing To Do With The Discussion

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    Image of napalmnacey is an angry feminist napalmnacey is an angry feminist
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    Oh darling, heed the words of Spock:

    "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true. "

    This is why people still read this book.
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    Image of pesematology pesematology
    11/20/09

    @napalmnacey is an angry feminist: Haha, so true. Also it makes me feel warm and happy inside every time I see an old-skool Spock quote posted here.
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    Image of napalmnacey is an angry feminist napalmnacey is an angry feminist
    11/20/09

    @pesematology: Dude was one wise alien hottie. Grew up on original Trek. TOSsers represent!
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    Image of swashbuckling swashbuckling
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    Just about any book would be improved with twenty pages of sex. Except Green Eggs and Ham. 'No, don't eat them THERE!'
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    Image of Talaya Talaya
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    Men have no imagination. I don't need 20 pp of lurve scene. It's all right here in my head.
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    Image of BreeDMN BreeDMN
    11/19/09

    @Talaya: Thank you. That is why more men watch porn than women.
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    Image of RupertsDrop RupertsDrop
    11/19/09

    @BreeDMN: Agreed.
    The sexiest thing I've seen on film was in Persuasion. I thought the scene where Anne takes Captain Wentworth's gloved hand was incredibly erotic. My husband didn't get it.

    The link below is the short list for the "Bad Sex in Literature" Award:
    [news.bbc.co.uk]
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    Ailatan promoted this comment RupertsDrop was starred RupertsDrop was unstarred
    Image of BreeDMN BreeDMN
    11/19/09

    @RupertsDrop: Just like the scene in the 2005 P&P where Darcy offers Lizzy his hand as she gets in the carriage.
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    curiousgeorgiana promoted this comment BreeDMN was starred BreeDMN was unstarred
    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/19/09

    @BreeDMN: My absolute favorite scene.
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    Image of Ailatan Ailatan
    11/19/09

    @RupertsDrop: that huge hand... man, I could have melted.
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    11/19/09

    @BreeDMN: I love how Matthew moves about the hand, as if he had just received an electric shock
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    Image of BreeDMN BreeDMN
    11/20/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: @Ailatan: Glad to see other devotees of the 2005 version (and Matthew *sigh*)here. Sorry Colin but your Darcy just doesn't do it for me. I may be opening a big old can of worms....
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    Image of tiredfairy tiredfairy
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    Only if you think P&P is only about the romance. Which is great and well crafted. But it's also scathing social, class, and gender role critique.

    I love a good sex scene, but P&P doesn't need one.
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    Image of la.donna.pietra la.donna.pietra
    11/19/09

    @tiredfairy: Also, socioeconomic analysis. Which *definitely* doesn't need a sex scene.
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    Image of tiredfairy tiredfairy
    11/19/09

    @la.donna.pietra: Exactly. P&P isn't "just" a romance. It always disappoints me when people don't see that.
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    Image of scullymurphy scullymurphy
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    I'm sure that Jane, were she alive, would have some choice things to say about Amis' work as well.
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    I've read loads of Martin Amis and no Jane Austen. Am I alone in this?
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    Image of superbonbon superbonbon
    11/19/09

    @Diziet_Sma: yes
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    11/19/09

    @superbonbon: Guess so!
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    Image of JessaFields JessaFields
    11/19/09

    @Diziet_Sma: No! I love The Rachel Papers and Yellow Dog.
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    11/19/09

    @JessaFields: Cool! Success, Money, London Fields and Experience are my favorites.
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    Image of thesciencegirl thesciencegirl
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    Having read some of those P&P steamy novel spin-offs, I disagree. I read one last year that was plenty sexy, but it involved Lizzy and Darcy having premarital sex, and it just didn't fit the time or their characters. I ended up just being annoyed by it.
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    Image of BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit) BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
    11/19/09

    @thesciencegirl: I won't read those books. Way to just steal someone else's characters and run!
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    Image of TheFormerJuneBronson TheFormerJuneBronson
    11/19/09

    @thesciencegirl: The only one I read that was at all steamy was Mr. Darcy Takes a Wife, and I just found it embarrassing. I'm no prude; I prefer my contemporary romances with explicit sex. But I like Lizzie and Darcy just the way they are.
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/19/09

    @TheFormerJuneBronson: I'm so glad I'm not the only one. I love erotica, but I could barely finish this book. The whole "pillow" thing int the first few chapters gave me the icks.
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    Image of stonebiscuit rolled a 1 on initiative stonebiscuit rolled a 1 on initiative
    11/19/09

    @TheFormerJuneBronson: That book was so bad it made me cry a little. "Betwixt" is not a unilateral substitution for "between," FFS. It's like a fifteen year old's idea of what period literature is.
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    Image of TheFormerJuneBronson TheFormerJuneBronson
    11/19/09

    @stonebiscuit rolled a 1 on initiative: Agreed. Though I did think her notion of Wickham's fate--if I'm remembering the right one--was about right.

    #tips
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    Image of BreeDMN BreeDMN
    11/20/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: I picked it up in B&N, got to the pillow part and put it right down. Sheesh! JA must be spinning in her grave.
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    Image of EndangeredRed EndangeredRed
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    Yeah, I tried this in one of my Experimental Writing classes in college. The professor apparently knew Jane Austen personally and was offended on behalf of her and all women. Even though he was a guy.
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    jigglyball promoted this comment EndangeredRed was starred EndangeredRed was unstarred
    Image of jigglyball jigglyball
    11/19/09

    @EndangeredRed: According to my college advisor, who was an Austen scholar a dude, there's loads of sex in P&P (and her other works, for that matter) if you simply read between the lines. Some of his points were good, some of them seemed more like wishful thinking.
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    Image of superbonbon superbonbon
    11/19/09

    @jigglyball:
    Loads of sex is alluded to, just never explicitly detailed. But not between the principals, but that's what an active imagination is for!
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    jigglyball promoted this comment superbonbon was starred superbonbon was unstarred
    Image of jigglyball jigglyball
    11/19/09

    @superbonbon: Oh yes, lots of allusions. For example, according to ol' Prof, when Mrs. Bennett is visiting sick Jane at Pemberley and feels compelled to defend the countryside to Mr. Darcy, her exlamation, "Well, there's plenty of THAT in the country!" is all about in-the-hay-rollin'. I buy it.
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    Image of lyra31 lyra31
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    Twenty pages? Mr. Darcy would have to "acquit himself uncommonly well" for it to last that long.
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    Image of GiggleLoop GiggleLoop
    11/19/09

    @lyra31: I read romance novels and I don't think I've ever read a 20 page sex scene.
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    Image of LAmonkeygirl LAmonkeygirl
    11/19/09

    @GiggleLoop: Also, I salute your avatar. There's plenty of N&S fanfic out there....
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    Image of GiggleLoop GiggleLoop
    11/19/09

    @LAmonkeygirl: Thank you. I love Richard Armitage and N&S.
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    Image of LAmonkeygirl LAmonkeygirl
    11/19/09

    @GiggleLoop: I will graciously share him with you. I know, I know. My generosity knows no bounds.
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    Image of gherkinfiend gherkinfiend
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    For me the only thing that could improve any work by Jane Austen, but especially Pride and Prejudice is throwing said books in the bin...
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    Image of A Small Turnip A Small Turnip
    11/19/09

    @gherkinfiend: You and me. We are DONE. You'll be gunning for Edith Wharton next, won't you?

    You CAD.
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    Image of tiredfairy tiredfairy
    11/19/09

    @gherkinfiend: Aw! But it's such a great social/class/gender critique.
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    Image of gherkinfiend gherkinfiend
    11/20/09

    @A Small Turnip: Don't worry m'dear. I love Edith Wharton with all my cold heart. Now that's social commentary Jane Austen wishes she could have written!

    Although I admit my Austen bias has a lot to do with being forced to read Mansfield Park repeatedly. Even Austen lovers don't get so swoony over that one, do they?



    #tips
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    Image of A Small Turnip A Small Turnip
    11/20/09

    @gherkinfiend: Fanny Price is a tit. Fact. What a colossal, snivelling little used kleenex of a character. I loathe her as viscerally as it its possible to loathe someone who doesn't actually exist. Mansfield Park sucks; everyone knows that.

    Just don't go talkin' shit about badass Elinor Dashwood, and it's all good, mate. We's cool.
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    Image of OneBigPear OneBigPear
    11/19/09

    In reply to Literary Ambitions
    Mmm... full of Firthy goodness.
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    Image of GirlFailer GirlFailer
    11/19/09

    @OneBigPear: He hot. (I hope this properly explains how I feel about him, here)
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    Image of happymisanthrope happymisanthrope
    06/24/09

    In reply to Classics
    Oh Penguin Illustrated Classics, you can do no wrong.
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    Image of ♥AntiSocialSocialite♥ ♥AntiSocialSocialite♥
    06/24/09

    In reply to Classics
    these are great! love the p&p cover.
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    Image of Cunning_Linguist Cunning_Linguist
    06/24/09

    In reply to Classics
    WANT


    Since I'm still boycotting Amazon, does anyone else know where I can get these? :/

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    Image of LBB LBB
    06/24/09

    @Cunning_Linguist: I imagine Borders and B&N, and if indie bookstores don't have them maybe they'd order them for you?
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    Image of sassyredhead sassyredhead
    06/24/09

    In reply to Classics
    I want The Scarlet Letter in a hangable print! It would be amazing in my bathroom!
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    Image of jigglyball jigglyball
    06/24/09

    @sassyredhead: This is only tangentially related, but I currently have a print hanging in my bathroom that depicts two pigeons sitting on a the back of a toilet, and it's titled "Stool Pigeons." It was made for bathroom display.
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