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It's Getting Down To The Wire For Obama And The Dog

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ellaesther
01/12/09

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This quote from the NY Times piece about the New Deal: "[FDR's] relief administrator, Harry Hopkins, had a ready answer: 'People don't eat in the long run. They eat every day.' " reminded me of something that I heard during the election that made a lot of sense to me:

Many Republican leaders are, essentially, misanthropes. I don't say all, and I certainly don't say all Republicans. But for many, there really is a sense that individual lives matter less than some idea -- financial, ideological, religious, what-have-you. Hence, the New Deal was bad. Because it privileged poor people over financial institutions.
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J.D.Regent
01/12/09

@ellaesther: I think it's less misanthropic than just absolutely self interested. It's not that they hate humans, they just put themselves first, and consider it a fucking VIRTUE.
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scullymurphy
01/12/09

@ellaesther: I get the sense that they feel individuals should be able to take care of themselves, because they the Republicans take care of themselves quite well. Of course, they conveniently forget that they are the party of privilege and start out with distinct advantages over others.
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J.D.Regent
01/12/09

@scullymurphy: or that we are currently bailing out BANKS because of stupid "free market" Republican deregulatory values. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps! Unless you're us.
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ellaesther
01/12/09

@J.D.Regent: "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps! Unless you're us." I will now be stealing that line, kthx.
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stoprobbers
01/12/09

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"Even if it's only a half smoke"??

Megan, I'm going to revoke your DC card if you don't take that back. What on earth could you possibly have against the half smoke?!
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SunburnedCounsel
01/12/09

@stoprobbers: it's only half.
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NefariousNewt
01/12/09

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Get a dog America can believe in.

Balto.
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NefariousNewt
01/12/09

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Coming soon: Gitmo, the tourist attraction! Come see where some of the most dangerous non-terrorists in the world were kept! Spend a night in a non-luxurious cell, with blaring music and intermittent lighting! Go waterboarding!
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leesie
01/12/09

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At this point, JtP is well past his 15 fucking minutes, yes?
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NefariousNewt
01/12/09

@leesie: 15 minutes? He didn't even deserve 30 seconds. He and Sarah Palin need to learn how to bow out gracefully.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
01/12/09

@leesie: Andy Warhol did not anticipate the Interwebz.
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rosasparks
01/12/09

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I am going to be a crazed, weeping person all week, during the Inauguration, does it mean that all my snot and tears will turn to icicles? I'm not looking forward to that AT ALL.

Please, this is my version of a vacation. No snot icicles!
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morninggloria
01/12/09

@rosasparks: Snosicles. They're called snotsicles. If you think they're like popsicles, you will be sorely disappointed.
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ellaesther
01/12/09

@rosasparks: If it's any comfort, you made me snort. Had I had coffee in my mouth, you would have owed me a new keyboard.
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stoprobbers
01/12/09

@rosasparks: I just came up with the most genius idea for staying warm.

I am going to get, like, 20 of those muscle pads you can get for $1 at CVS, the ones that heat up to relax sore muscles? And I am going to stick them ALL OVER MYSELF, under my sweaters and pants. And toe warmers, too. And that is exactly how stoprobbers will be toasty warm in the standing section of the swearing-in ceremony.

Use the idea; just give me the credit :)
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Kivrin
01/12/09

@stoprobbers: That is an excellent idea! Well done!
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rosasparks
01/12/09

@morninggloria: I don't think they would be remotely tasty, either. They will taste like chili dogs, salt and hooch.
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rosasparks
01/12/09

@stoprobbers: AWESOME. I will do the same. I am also planning on wearing adult diapers.

No joke. There will be no bathrooms anywhere.
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stoprobbers
01/12/09

@rosasparks: Lucky me, I'm very good at holding my pee.

You ladies wanna meet up at a bar afterward to watch the parade? Food and drinks and celebration!!!
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stacyinbean
01/12/09

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This comment over at WaPo about Michelle's mother moving in is straight up CLASSY folks. I suggest we all share in the moving thoughts put forward.

"Are the taxpayers going to be on the hook for her accomodations in the White House? If the Obama's are big on family values, what are they doing to the auntie who is illegally living in the United States? Is she going to live in the White House too? Maybe next thing we know, all the Obama clans from Kenya will all move to the White House. Then we'll have one big happy Obama family. Hooray!!!!"
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Mkp-hearts-NYC
01/12/09

@stacyinbean: haahahaha...Yes. Obama's first two executive actions are going to be installing a basketball court and inviting all of Kenya over to play street ball.
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morninggloria
01/12/09

@stacyinbean: I'll pay extra taxes for Michelle's mamma so this douche will shut up.
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AnnoyingFemaleLeadVoiceover
01/12/09

@stacyinbean: So you didn't get your invitation to the "paint the white house black" front lawn BBQ?
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PilgrimSoul
01/12/09

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Obama is wonderfully charismatic as a politician, but so far I am feeling lukewarm about all this "unity" talk, which is starting to look like it will mean that very little actual change happens because the Administration is too busy throwing throwing everyone and their uncle a bone so they can "unite the country." But instead everybody feels dissatisfied, and things are roughly the same.
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morninggloria
01/12/09

@PilgrimSoul: I feel you. I'm nervous, but optimistic. Nervous that things won't change, but optimistic about the fact that most of the change that an administration enacts occurs under the radar.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
01/12/09

@PilgrimSoul: My dissatisfaction/disillusionment can be traced to the Rick Warren pick. You cannot make all of the people happy all of the time, so why try so desperately to please a bloc of people who hate gays and think non-Christians will go to hell instead of trying to please the people who, y'know, elected you?
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LaFemme
01/12/09

@PilgrimSoul: This has been the gist of my hesitation for approximately the past year.
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TheFormerJuneBronson
01/12/09

@PilgrimSoul: I agree. There isn't going to be a magic bullet that makes everyone happy, especially when people have so many non-political reasons to be unhappy. Let the Repubs be unhappy for a while. They had their turn, and they fucked it all up.
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NefariousNewt
01/12/09

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (2009: a space ovumlord): I don't think he's trying to please them, only make it clear he plans to listen to everyone, and just because McCain lost does not mean that their voices are shut out of the dialog. He hasn't said he'll actually take what they say seriously, but that's another matter.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
01/12/09

@NefariousNewt: I get that, but I honestly don't see why Warren had to be at the invocation versus some kind of round-table discussion at the White House about faith in America or something like that. The invocation may be symbolic but it does give me the impression that he is trying to please them.
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NefariousNewt
01/12/09

@PilgrimSoul: Beats the Republicans and their "our way or the highway" philosophy. Look, he wants people to realize that their concerns will be noted. But in the end, he will make the decisions with the best interests of everyone in mind. I liken him to Captain Picard -- listen to everyone then do what you think is best. It could lead to stagnation, but I think it might actually lead to people voicing useful opinions for a change.
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NefariousNewt
01/12/09

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (2009: a space ovumlord): Well, I'm still not happy with Warren myself, but I'm trusting the President-Elect. If after this, Warren surfaces elsewhere, I'm going to be pretty annoyed.
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PilgrimSoul
01/12/09

@NefariousNewt: But... not to put too fine a point on it, but this isn't Star Trek. Moreover, national leadership is not an opportunity to congratulate oneself on how "open-minded" one is as opposed to others and lecture other people on tolerance of opposing viewpoints, which is basically all I'm hearing thus far.

I'm also a bit tired of this "but Republicans have divided us! Obama will unite us!" Obama's "let's please everyone whilst I drink the Kool-Aid on how wonderful I am" is not national unity worth having, IMHO, because it's unity that preserves the status quo, that tells everyone their opinions are valuable no matter how virulent the terms. That's not leadership talking from Obama's podium right now; it's self-flattery. Leadership would be talking about the things that you have to do to get the country moving. Leadership would be not postponing desperately needed economic plans for no other reason than the vanity of feeling like one has "united" with Republicans in service of that goal... all while sacrificing the goal itself.
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NefariousNewt
01/12/09

@PilgrimSoul: Well, I never said it was a perfect solution or idea. But I have to cast even my hardened cynicism aside and give the man a chance. We're going to have set aside a lot of our previous ideas and let the man work.
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morninggloria
01/12/09

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All of this Republican stupidity is causing me to sit back and cackle with glee. The only people this bullshit appeals to are the wide eyed crazies who cause people to shake their heads and wonder what is wrong with America's education system. Democrats don't even have to speak out against Republicans anymore; Republicans are on a sinking ship and thinking that maybe they would be saved if only the hole in the port side were bigger.
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scullymurphy
01/12/09

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If Obama isn't interested in investigating or prosecuting the Bushies can he at least greenlight the US retroactively signing on to the ICC so the international community can put them on trial?
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J.D.Regent
01/12/09

@scullymurphy: HA. HA. HA. Luckily investigating and prosecuting the Bushies is not the president's job. Not that I have a whole hell of a lot of faith in Holder doing it either.
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scullymurphy
01/12/09

@J.D.Regent: He could authorize an inquiry... But I'm well aware that these things are just pipe dreams.

I can't get the delicious image of Cheney on the stand at the Hague out of my head, though. Sigh.
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J.D.Regent
01/12/09

@scullymurphy: see, my fantasies are more assassination oriented.
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scullymurphy
01/12/09

@J.D.Regent: But then his twisted secrets would die with him!! And the right would try to rehabilitate/lionize him like they did with Nixon. Barf.
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PilgrimSoul
01/12/09

@J.D.Regent: The problem is really that there isn't public appetite. America is too busy feeling good about itself right now having elected a black President, and everybody wants to forget that other guy, you know... what's his name? The one in office?
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J.D.Regent
01/12/09

@PilgrimSoul: I disagree actually that it has much to do with Obamaphilia. This has been a problem since long before Obama was on the radar. Remember Pelosi saying the same shit in 2004?
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PilgrimSoul
01/12/09

@J.D.Regent: Oh yes, it was said before. I don't mean that it was connected to Obama specifically. The Democrats could have run a cat for office and the sentiment would probably be the same.
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J.D.Regent
01/12/09

@PilgrimSoul: pussies.
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shorty63136
01/12/09

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Obama: "Hey, uh...more fries, please? Thanks."
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sportz.star
01/12/09

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We live in a country where our president (for a few more days) takes credit for signing off on torture. When did I move to Cold War Russia/WWII Germany/etc. without knowing it?
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
01/12/09

@sportz.star: When it became "you're either with us or you're against us."
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sportz.star
01/12/09

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (2009: a space ovumlord): Oh, makes sense that I missed it. That was right around the time I stopped watching him on TV in order to save my TV from the law school books that kept getting hurled at it.
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angelheadedhipster
01/12/09

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I prefer Puggles to Labradoodles.

Also, Ben's Chili bowl is teh awesome.

Also, Joe the Plumber needs to Joe the STFU.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
01/12/09

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Whenever I see the Frost/Nixon trailers, all I can think is that Langella is playing Cheney at the same time he is playing Nixon.
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scullymurphy
01/12/09

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (2009: a space ovumlord): They are certainly criminals on par with each other. Shudder.
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BuffySummers
01/12/09

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So many families will want the same dog the Obamas get--it's his civic duty to adopt a mutt!!
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Majrhoulihan
01/12/09

@BuffySummers: You mean it's the 10- and 7- year-old's civic responsibility. It's their dog.
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musicpup
01/12/09

@BuffySummers: Seriously? It's their dog. Let 'em get what they want. A humane breeder can guarantee the dog will have the temper and qualities they want, and it will emphasize the AWESOMENESS of humane breeders.

In fact, that's where I got my Golden. Suck on that.
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BuffySummers
01/12/09

@Majrhoulihan: Well, sure. All I was saying is, I bet whichever dog they get will become sort of trendy, so I think it would set a great example to adopt a mutt. Obviously the kids should get whatever dog they want, but I don't see any reason why they couldn't want a mixed breed.
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musicpup
01/12/09

@BuffySummers: I think they want one. They just can't get one due to allergies, you know?
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Majrhoulihan
01/12/09

@BuffySummers: Sometimes parents have to say no, like when my sister wanted to bring a dog with fleas and a communicable skin disease into our house to be friends with our pretty Shiba/Chow mutt.

Kids are soft-hearted/weird.
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