<![CDATA[Jezebel: porn ultimatums]]> http://tags.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/jezebel.com.png <![CDATA[Jezebel: porn ultimatums]]> http://jezebel.com/tag/pornultimatums http://jezebel.com/tag/pornultimatums <![CDATA[Cue The "Liz Lemon Sucks" Jokes…]]> What the world needs now: A porn flick based on 30 Rock. Watch the (safe for work!) trailer here: The "Trey Jordan" character pretty much steals the show. [NY Mag]

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<![CDATA[Women Have A Complex Relationship With Porn]]> Pornography is a complex issue for feminists, coming as it does [heh] at the intersection of sexuality, exploitation, morality and personal choice. Some women are pro-, some are anti- and most of us are a combination thereof. Given the current widespread public perception of political feminists as humorless, sexless bitches and/or lesbians, it's probably no surprise that some studies want to also portray us all as anti-porn or just doing it to please men. So, as long as we're clear, feminists are sexless prudes, women who like porn are only pretending to please men, and "normal women" — i.e., neither feminists nor slutty man-pleasers — hate it. Right, got it: damned if I do and damned if I don't. Luckily, there are women like Katha Susie Bright and the Nation's Katha Pollitt who, in a new podcast up on Bright's website, are willing to deconstruct that myth just a little bit.

Susie says it best, perhaps, when she points out the origins of feminism in the sixties and inside of the hippie free-love movement:

What I didn't expect is that feminism would ever get wrenched apart over sex. I never saw that coming. I never thought that people would think that because I was a feminist, I was a prude or a square or that I wasn't on the cutting edge of sex radicalism.

It is a little odd, isn't it, that feminists went from being bra-burning sluts to being buttoned-up humorless lesbians in the public perception — though, I'm sure that has not just a little to do with the fact that the bra-burning sluts grew up to be, you know, older women and older women are obviously not sexual beings anymore.

Susie attributes an anti-porn sentiment among women to two things: one which she identifies as a more political sentiment, grounded in a sense that there's exploitation going on, that it's for male pleasure and rooted in a continuing sense of male-domination; and another one more grounded in women's sense of self:

When I hear a woman express a vernacular anti-porn sentiment... I started to take it as code for a couple of things. One, particularly if they are afraid that they are going to be left for porn... I realize that they don't understand their incredible value as a real woman who can really have sex with their partner. And I often identify it as someone who is not enjoying orgasms, who doesn't recognize her own sexual self-interest, because if she did, she would say, "Well, whatever I think about his porn interests or his masturbatory fantasy interests, I have some myself." And she would compare them to her own. Where as a woman who's not aware of her own fantasizing, who isn't masturbating and so on, it's just "What is this?", it really is another woman [to her].

Katha, on the other hand, cautions against that strict a delineation, noting that women can enjoy porn on a visceral level and still be concerned with the labor issues — safety, exploitation, the potential for coercion, what is happening when the cameras go off, etc. On the other hand, Katha's experiences with porn have been mostly limited to the literary, as she started her career as a copy-editor for pornography, and evinces a certain discomfort with modern porn:

When I looked at visual pornography — which I haven't seen a lot of — I'm often really turned off. In all kinds of ways. The people look so sterile, and implanted and shaved. I'm always worries about the labor issues... I think it's a very complicated thing to watch other people have sex.

Like Katha, my experiences with porn started off with the literary — my high school boyfriend found a dog-eared copy of a book Katha might have copy-edited in his parents' room (and I kept it for years). If you think it's hard to masturbate while typing, well, it ain't easy while you're trying to read, either. A few guy friends in high school had some porn mags (gay and straight) that they showed me that were interesting, but it's hard to ask a dude friend to borrow one. My first experience actually watching porn was — again — with dude friends in college. Most of it was old shit on VHS, none of it was online (it was 1998, everything was pay-porn then, so sue me) and none of it was as plastic and unfeeling as the titty mag my college boyfriend and his roommates subscribed to "for the articles". The only time I ever had a problem with porn in a relationship was when my boyfriend of two years developed a secret habit that reflected sexual differences I'd thought we'd resolved in our relationship (and when it coincided with personal ads he was posting on the Internet). I do watch it myself now (thanks, Fleshbot!) when it's free, and utilize it for its intended purpose, mostly when I'm too mentally distracted by stress or depression to conjure up my own fantasies but need the release. In those moments, do I worry about the labor issues? No. Do I miss my little book of 70s erotica? Kind of. Would I be happy to see more unionization and regulation in the porn industry so that I could be more sure that the stuff that's getting me off is safe for the women (and men) who are virtually assisting me? Yes, but that's the subject for another post.

Women Watch Porn To Please Men? [Salon]
Susie & Katha Pollitt, on "Virginity or Death!" [Susie Bright's Journal]

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<![CDATA[Possibly-Fake 13-Year-Old Seduces Prostitutes With Fake World Of Warcraft Winnings]]> That kids today are exposed to massive amounts of porn and heavily porn-influenced content at impossibly tender ages is an unavoidable fact. Parents and teachers and the whole "Village Thing" can do a certain amount to censor and filter and limit this, but a part of me thinks that all young men should just start listening to Howard Stern at age five because then they would at least have the sense not to title their Peer Pressure-inspired YouTube videos Rape Dat Ho and would instead do like 13-year-old Ralph Hardy of Newark, Texas. Ralph, the son of a workaholic attorney who forgot his birthday, allegedly decided to take it upon himself to steal his father's credit card to get a few pals together and hire some hookers.

In a heartwarming tale that may well be apocryphal — but if it is, it is truly the "Gift of the Magi" of the GTA generation, so it's worthy of a post — the young Hardy told the girls he had a "growth disorder" a la Andy Milonakis and the motel clerks that he had just won a World of Warcraft tournament.

When police arrived at the motel they found $3,000 in cash, numerous electronic gadgets, an Xbox video console with numerous games, and the two local escort girls.

Ralph had reportedly told police that his father wouldn't mind, as it was his birthday last week and he had forgot to get him a present. The father, a lawyer said he had been too busy, but would take him on a surprise trip to Disneyland instead.

Asked why he ordered two escorts, Ralph said he thought it was the thing to do when you win a "World of Warcraft" tournament. They told the suspicious working girls they were people of restricted growth working with a traveling circus, and as State law does not allow those with disabilities to be discriminated against they had no right to refuse them.

The $1,000 a night girls sensing something up played "Halo" on the Xbox with the kids, instead of selling their sexual services.

Ralph's ambition is to one day become a politician.

I can't find a news source more legitimate than The Sun to source this to, so I'll believe it when young Ralph hosts his first YouTube party with Cory Worthington, but it's a pleasant enough screenplay idea, no?

13-Year-Old Steals Dad's Credit Card To Buy Hookers

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<![CDATA[ A Lynwood, Washington mom amusingly surnamed...]]> A Lynwood, Washington mom amusingly surnamed "Milfs" is angry over a book called Pornogami being sold at Urban Outfitters. "It's not freedom of speech. It's selling adult books to teenagers" she says, demonstrating the sort of logic that could finally shut down the internet and force us to pick up meaningful pastimes like origami again. (Our brother site, Consumerist, has a video demonstration of Pornogami and yes, Master Sugoi has a creepy voice.) [Consumerist]

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<![CDATA[Sports Illustrated V. New York: Which Is Smuttier?]]> When it comes to the whole "What is porn" debate I generally apply the old "I know it when I see it" saw. So when two respected mainstream magazines were recently accused of peddling "filth" I stumbled drunkenly to newsstands to apply the litmus test. And...um...I dunno? Upon rigorous scrutiny, I can only determine that neither of them gave me that funny "Uh, now would not be the time" feeling. (Although look! NY Mag just posted outtakes!) The Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue was the usual assortment of photos of bodaciously babelicious babetacular Barbielike babes posing in bikinis in ways guys have always supposedly loved. The Lilo pictures: well, the color grainy and weird, so while the gratuitous addition of actual bare nipple seemed slightly more porniful than SI, it wasn't really doing it for me. So I leave it to you readers! What's more close to being actual porn? Some of the most prurient evidence I could scan up after the jump.

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That's the out-and-out porniest shot I found in SI. It doesn't appear to be on the website. Still...tame, right? Or is that just conditioning?

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Ah, Lilo.

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This is Formula 1 driver Danica Patrick. I just stuck her in because I was fucking impressed that someone who wears one of those suits to work would bother to have such a flawless body. I mean, I understand — laxatives, Master Cleanse, photoshop — still. She tells the magazine she drives commando and that she'd never pose nude. Is there a difference?

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I found this in SI, too. Thanks for reminding me I'm straight, guys!

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