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MIXED
11/09/09

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"...since a recent study found that overweight women feel worse about themselves after looking a photos of models, whether the models were skinny or not."

God that just makes me really sad. Everywhere we look, it's "my hair can't do that," or "my arms don't look like that," or "that dress won't look like that on me." So terrible that we compare ourselves to exhaustion like this. #photoshopban
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futuremouse
11/09/09

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Can the disclaimers take the form of LOLmodels?

ATTN: Thiz bish no iz real. Real ladiez headz no iz biggur than bodiez. #photoshopban
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dancerevolution
11/09/09

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Anything that brings awareness to the intense pressure put on teenage girls (and boys) to look a certain way is a great thing. It is a huge step in the right direction. It's not really even about the labels, although that's a start. It is huge that lawmakers are talking about this, at least in my opinion. #photoshopban
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Notes from the underwhelmed
11/09/09

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I think it's a good idea mostly because I think it's hilarious. #photoshopban
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ZemarSea Urchin
11/09/09

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Ooh and what about the peer/family aspect? Has anyone studied that in realtion to media images? Which is the larger factor? #photoshopban
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ZemarSea Urchin
11/09/09

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It's like the ciggie warnings. Is it working for you? #photoshopban
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Snowbunny
11/09/09

@ZemarSea Urchin: I used to casually smoke cigarettes when drinking until I accidentally made tar in my lab.

Never again.

Maybe schools should start a tar initiative, because seeing a picture of something does very little, but breathing in the putrid fumes of an overheated distillation does a lot. #photoshopban
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ZemarSea Urchin
11/09/09

@Snowbunny: I like that plan. Schools should have a photoshop program and as a year end project create their own shoots according to the protocols of the industry. That would be eye opening. #photoshopban
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Leucadia
11/09/09

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Great advice for everyone: Try to look at fewer advertising images, period. I stopped buying magazines because every magazine is simply a device to get you to buy things.* It is engineered to cause dissatisfaction of some kind. So are TV commercials. Just don't look, as Lisa S. said, and help keep kids from looking. They'll be better off in many immeasureable ways if fewer people are trying to sell them something.

*I do read nerd magazines like the New Yorker, which tries to get me to buy small portable canoes and real wool French berets.
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FrannyR
11/09/09

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Yes, I think it's a good idea. Most of the time, ppl aren't aware of just how much retouching has been/can be done. Or how. Ppl say "Oh, that's photoshopped" without really understanding what that means. It's just the standard answer, ppl say that about unflattering photos of their favourite celebrities. One thing that is quite common in magazines is to use underweight models and use photo retouching to smooth out visible rib cages, hip bones, sternums and collarbones. That way you have a(n impossibly) thin model that is still smooth and round, and doesn't look starved and unhealthy. #photoshopban
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History Major
11/09/09

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But photography in itself has always had a illusion laced into it? You can do things with lighting and angles etc. This has always been the nature of the beast especially in advertising. #photoshopban
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katie.scarlett.o'hara
11/09/09

@History Major: Yeah, there is no end-all, be-all solution in this debate, to me anyway. Disclaimers on altered photographs are a start, but there's no way to stop girls from feeling bad about themselves looking at an unaltered photo. I wish there was a way to get girls to feel good about themselves, rather than aspire to others' images. #photoshopban
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History Major
11/09/09

@katie.scarlett.o'hara: Maybe that should be the focus? Channel those funds into programs to help girls recognize their full worth #photoshopban
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FrabjousDay
11/09/09

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God, that is so sad. But it's not just a girl thing. My little brother is going through the same thing. He's always been big, and very self-conscious about his weight. Now he's 13, six feet tall, and weighs more than my dad. He's really upset about his size/weight, and it's sad that it should even matter because he is seriously the sweetest kid ever. I wish there was some way to tell kids that they don't have to look like some shallow commercialized standard, because seeing this crap ruin peoples' childhood is just awful.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
11/09/09

@FrabjousDay: Aww man. I hit 5'9 at 13 and stopped growing completely. It really does suck, because it's an age where you really just want to blend in but you stick out like a sore thumb and people are always confusing you for an adult which can get REALLY awkward at the beach. Poor guy. He has my total sympathy on this one and my expert advice that once 9th grade hits, it'll be okay. People will start mistaking him for a junior or senior, which makes the first few months of of freshman year a lot easier because nobody knows to make fun of you. It also becomes much easier to blend in.
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katie.scarlett.o'hara
11/09/09

@FrabjousDay: My little brother has undergone some pretty drastic weight changes in the past few years. He was overweight for a while, but became very thin after going on Adderal. He started gaining again when he tried out for football, but I know he's still self-conscious and anxious not to lower his dosage because he's afraid of going back to his old weight.

I've had my own problems with body image, but I've basically accepted that I'm not ever going to fit my perfect ideal, and I'm okay with that. I don't have the willpower to give up my favorite foods, and I go to the gym more to feel healthy and strong than lose weight. My brother, on the other hand, is willing to go to pretty drastic lengths to keep the weight off, which kind of frightens me. #photoshopban
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FrabjousDay
11/09/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: It is really hard! When I was 13 I gained a ton of weight from puberty and got a lot taller than all my friends, and the next couple of years were NOT fun. It just sucks to see my brother going through the same thing, especially since he's a twin, and my other brother is only about half his size. :/

@katie.scarlett.o'hara: Drastic methods are worrying, but it sounds like you'll be a good influence for him. When I was 18 I pretty much just starved myself until I lost a lot of weight. It was a complete waste of time because not only was I sick all the time, but it didn't make me feel any better about myself. Yeah, I was smaller, but I'd grown up an insecure embarrassed kid and I kind of stayed that way. That's why I hate that body image is such an issue at a young age, because it's a lot harder to change than your pants size.
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OneTwoPunch
11/09/09

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Interesting article, Margaret! It's something to think about. I know if I was a celebrity who posed often for photos, I would have my agent draw up contracts in which Photoshopping, and the amount done to my image, was clearly stipulated, plus I would have some creative control over the final product.

Of course, A-level stars have that kind of leverage, whereas the model from the ad illustrating the article was simply trying to make a living, and she did not have the same amount of clout at the time her photos were taken. Although I really applauded her decision to speak out publicly on the talk show circuit after being fired. That takes guts. #photoshopban
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smirkette
11/09/09

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obvious study is obvious, but if this is what it takes for gov't to take this seriously, I can live with that.

And I get creeped out every time I see that picture. Uncanny valley but with a photograph as a starting point instead of CGI. #photoshopban
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
11/09/09

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I still think there should be a "retoucher" credit on images that have been retouched. They list the photographer, the stylist, the designers, the makeup/hair people. Why not the retoucher? He or she had just as much to do with that image as any of those people. #photoshopban
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OneTwoPunch
11/09/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Agreed! #photoshopban
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MsFeasance
11/09/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: I agree.
Although, I have to say I find it somewhat ---fatuous of the Daily Fail to put the blame for girls' self-loathing on Photoshop retouchers, considering all they've done to further that end. #photoshopban
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
11/09/09

@MsFeasance: Point. It's like the pot releasing an expose on the possibly artificially darkened color of the kettle. #photoshopban
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boxspelunker
11/09/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: I think so, too. I mean, when we credit people for comics, we list everyone involved - pencils, inks, tones, color, digital enhancement, text, etc. A retoucher does a lot of work on an image and should receive credit for his or her work. #photoshopban
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femme-bot
11/09/09

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I have a disclaimer on my pack of cigs. It doesn't do much.
I'm not against this at all though. We put disclaimers on lots of unhealthy shit (cigs, booze, etc). Lets put disclaimers on unhealthy images. Though I'm not sure how it would work with billboards. #photoshopban
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Sanfo
09/28/09

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There's so much more to the photographs than the image editing! There's makeup, lighting, and people to take care of every detail. Taking away the digital manipluation will not affect the total problem- I'd like to see the credits for everyone who worked on the photograph to be listed. You know, to show it's more than one person.
Sigh.
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