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    Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC

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    Image of Alyssa Al-Dookhi Alyssa Al-Dookhi
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    As a Kuwaiti woman who has recently done a lot of research on how little my nation respects my rights as an adult female, the statistics on Kuwait were really refreshing and you said a lot of things I've been struggling to for a while. Thank you.
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    Image of DutchessOfDork DutchessOfDork
    02/20/09

    @Alyssa Al-Dookhi:


    There was an Oprah episode about womens'rights around the world. There was this Kuwaiti woman who said that all the women cannot do is vote. Is that true? Note, this episode was from awhile ago, and I cannot remember when.

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    Image of Lisabel (ne: Dagnabbit) Lisabel (ne: Dagnabbit)
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    Oh Megan, kicking ass and taking names.


    That last Quinn quote, oy vey. One could almost applaud her efficiency being so offensive to so many (domestically and abroad) in so few words. Many birds, one dumb fricking stone.


    Middle East are like the Real Housewives of Orange County in abayas

    See I imagined a "Confessions of a (Middle Eastern) Shopaholic" trailer, cept that "heroine" gets a job, which PetroPrincesses don't ever want to do. Allegedly.

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    Image of DutchessOfDork DutchessOfDork
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    I am also not saying that these women are unintelligent. I am just saying I barely saw any to make any sound judgment. From what little I saw, is that they work hard around the home and are hardly "lunching".


    As far as I know, they are lacking in the oil.

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    Image of DutchessOfDork DutchessOfDork
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    I know it's not the Middle East, but I wouldn't put it past people like her to put it in the same category.


    I was recently in a city in Morocco just travelling. In the shops, souks, and tanneries, you almost NEVER saw a local woman. Or at least I didn't. I'd see a few but mostly men. When it got to be 2pm (aka bloody hot) I saw only men lounging around under trees and in gardens. I saw women beggars and shoppers or women sweeping outside their homes. Rarely did I see them out during the day. At night there were many that would eat at the local pop-up restaurants. The only time I saw women during the day just lounging and lunching were when the women seemed better off and had nicer clothing.

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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    That doofus is still in journalism? Sally Quinn was a dope back in the 80's and I'm not surprised to see she's still (whatever adjective)challenged.


    All these people in media without jobs lately, and Miss Chowderhead is employed. There is not god, but I already knew that.

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    Image of Andalucía Andalucía
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    I hear she's next doing a series on Indian women. Here's the Cliff Notes version: they all are taught Kama Sutra in the womb, drop the kids off at school via elephant ride, and randomly break out in Bollywood dance tunes to express their joy or torment.


    Evidence below!

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    Image of boxspelunker boxspelunker
    02/20/09

    @Andalucía: Are you somehow suggesting it is not like this? I don't think that's possible. I've seen the movies, you know.
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    Image of somedisaster somedisaster
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    Has anyone else noticed that most Western generalizations about Arab and Persian women tend to fall into one of two categories? Either they're all, across the board, characterized as oppressed and persecuted women who have no agency and need to be saved by Western intervention, or they're all characterized as frivilous rich women ("they can shop, they can gossip, they can go to lunch")/princesses.


    Overgeneralizations are a problem in and of themselves, but in this case, it seems like these generalizations are used to infantalize Arab and Persian women and to reduce the Middle East into a simple stereotype, rather than understanding that it is an incredibly complex region where women and the treatment of women varies in a million ways.

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    Image of Laulau Laulau
    02/20/09

    @somedisaster: The total kicker is that she somehow tries to make these two nasty stereotypes mesh - men are oppressive, and women do what they want men to do because they're lazy? Huh?
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    Hmmm... The relevance of the socioeconomic climate of the last hundred years has somehow eclipsed the relevance of the sociotheological climate of the last 3 thousand?


    How do these people get on television?

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    Image of Mafalda para Presidente Mafalda para Presidente
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    I'm as equally bothered by the dismissal of SAHMs as women who "sit around eating bon-bons all day" (yeah, because childcare isn't work, right?) as I am by the dismissal of working women as "selfish". Why has house work become so stigmatized, as if no woman on their right minds would ever choose it over work outside of the home?
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    Image of thegirlinthetangerinescarf thegirlinthetangerinescarf
    02/20/09

    @Mafalda para Presidente: Exactly!! SOMEONE has to raise the next generation. If I was a nanny or a maid or a cook it would count as employment, but SAHMs "eat bon bons"? Wha??
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    Image of boxspelunker boxspelunker
    02/20/09

    @thegirlinthetangerinescarf: Aren't children bon-bon dispensers? I HAVE BEEN LIED TO.
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    Image of Whiskey and Popcorn Whiskey and Popcorn
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    Also, after lunch, they take their flying carpet to meet Aladdin the Patriarch at his oil well. He demands a male heir, and she whips out her magic lamp, rubs it, and hey presto!
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    Image of Lox Lox
    02/20/09

    @JanicefromSA:bacon and butternut: You sure its not his magic lamp she is rubbing?
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    Image of Whiskey and Popcorn Whiskey and Popcorn
    02/20/09

    No, silly! Them Middle Easterners only have sex through a hole in a sheet, remember? /sarcasm
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    Image of Brigit Brigit
    02/20/09

    @JanicefromSA:bacon and butternut: Don't forget to demand bon-bons and designer duds after the kid! ;)
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    Image of Whiskey and Popcorn Whiskey and Popcorn
    02/20/09

    Because you are noone without a Gucci Burqa.NO-ONE!
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    Image of Ailanthus-altissima Ailanthus-altissima
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    I am female and I would much rather pursue a career and travel than take care of children. More power to the women who do want to stay at home and raise children (it is hard work), but please do not imply that all women share the "I do not want to work outside of the home full time" trait.
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    Image of Whiskey and Popcorn Whiskey and Popcorn
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    I bet you she just read a Mills and Boon novel about a "cosseted, gossipy, shopaholic, oil-rich, votaphobe Brown lady" and used it as crib notes for this t.v appearance.Because otherwise, I can't think of how to she came up with so many cliches by her lonesome.
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    Image of KillMeNow no longer has a future in journalism KillMeNow no longer has a future in journalism
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    Also, they ululate in everyday conversation.
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    Image of TRexstasy TRexstasy
    02/20/09

    @KillMeNow no longer has a future in journalism: One day I will learn to make that sound.
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    Image of Annabellie Annabellie
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    Sometimes I think that people forget that the Middle East is made up of separate countries, all of which have their own cultures, their own politics, etc. I feel like a lot of the western world believes that there's just one giant homogenous zone known only as THE MIDDLE EAST.
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    Image of Ailanthus-altissima Ailanthus-altissima
    02/20/09

    @Annabellie: It's kind of like THE AFRICA and THE ASIA.
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    Image of Annabellie Annabellie
    02/20/09

    @Ailanthus-altissima: I KNOW. It's like saying, "OH, YOU'RE FROM POLAND, YOU MUST LIKE CROISSANTS AND SPAGHETTI."
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    Image of hellosunshine hellosunshine
    02/20/09

    @Annabellie:


    "Dude, Sweden isn't France."

    "Oh, it's France."


    (Hearts to whoever names this show!)

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    Image of Annabellie Annabellie
    02/20/09

    @tinycowboyhats: HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER! Heart heart heart!
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    Image of hellosunshine hellosunshine
    02/20/09

    @Annabellie: Heee!! (I've already hearted you! So I'm doing it again :))
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    Image of Jessi Ramsey Jessi Ramsey
    02/20/09

    In reply to Sally Quinn Peddles Offensive Stereotypes About Middle-Eastern Women On MSNBC
    It sounds like she was about to jump into a chorus of (Middle Eastern)Ladies Who Lunch"
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