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I, Zombie Normal
02/26/09

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Oh, I sent this link! Thank you Jezebel for covering this, and bringing attention to this despicable site, so that we can be vigilant in preventing its return, and use this as conversation starter. Because the thought that people think this is funny and no big deal is not encouraging.

The other night when I read the comments on this article I was really upset.
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MissFiFi
02/26/09

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Glad it is down, but sad others want to post it back up.

And to be regionally racist, why am I not shocked this was in Texas???
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yvanehtnioj reminds you that it's hear, hear, not here, here
02/26/09

@MissFiFi: Well the guy who campaigned to shut it down is from Texas.
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colormeroutine
02/26/09

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While that site is disturbing, in general I'm ok with calling those shirts wife beaters. Mainly because I find that anyone who routinely walks around in them is pretty much a complete douchebag, so they serve as a nice little warning flag
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LaComtesse
02/26/09

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Regarding this garment:

My mom: I hate that it's called a wife beater now. That's horrible. So offensive and so unacceptable.

My brother: That's what I call it.

Mom: You WILL NOT call it that in this house.

Brother: Then what do I say that WOULDN'T be offensive.

Mom: (completely without irony) It's a guinea tee.
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ellaesther
02/26/09

@LaComtesse: Oh, mom!
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LaComtesse
02/26/09

@ellaesther: Oh those whacky I-talians...
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gobblegirl
02/26/09

@LaComtesse: I don't get it? Like, from New Guinea? Is it a racist thing that I've never heard of?
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yvanehtnioj reminds you that it's hear, hear, not here, here
02/26/09

@gobblegirl: It's an old school slur against Italians (or maybe specifically Italian-Americans? dunno).
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LaComtesse
02/26/09

@gobblegirl: It's a slur against Italian Americans, which we are. I've also heard them called "dego tees," again, an anti- Italian-American slur.
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Little Green Frog (Wise Latina)
02/26/09

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Have you all seen the comments on the article?

People are attacking him for doing that, and even offering to host the site somewhere else. Here is his response (I took out the email address):

I invite all of you people who disagree with me, to be married for 30 years to a woman who was married to two wife beaters, and who suffered from the battered woman syndrome. That was in the days when police and society looked at domestic violence as a private matter, not a criminal matter. Many women were killed because of societies stupidity.

Feminism and profound love and respect are what keeps my marriage alive for 30 years. I also do not drink anything alcoholic and I hate football and boxing because they are too violent. If anyone wishes to discuss this matter, please contact me at xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com

Macho men who find violence acceptable need psychiatrists. I am a proud feminist and athiest. The reason why Mr. Doolin's site was taken down is because he violated CBeyonds agreement, which he signed and accepted.
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NefariousNewt
02/26/09

@Little Green Frog: OK, then I have a mission -- to keep an eye out for the reappearance of this domain name. Anyone else out there gets the bright idea to host this site, I will alert the media.
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TurtleSpeak
02/26/09

@Little Green Frog: Wow this man is awesome. I'm glad Jezebel has decided to focus on the positive... when I heard about the site yesterday I damn near popped a blood vessel.
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LaComtesse
02/26/09

@Little Green Frog: Awww! I lovies him!
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DutchessOfDork
02/26/09

@Little Green Frog: Dear Patrick Greene,

I knight thee Sir Patrick.

Though, this is North America so you cannot throw that title around. But it's fun to tell your friends!
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desertbloom79
02/26/09

@Little Green Frog: Yeah, I'm just shocked at how many people are attacking him. Apparently someone knew him and threw the "attack" that he was an athiest and so should be despised. It's so weird. Like being an atheist makes him evil, but rewarding wife-beaters is good.
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DutchessOfDork
02/26/09

@desertbloom79:

People are villifying that man and they have no just cause to do so. So what he's an atheist?

"So, Mr. Greene. How about deciding to do something REALLY useful like shutting down the child porn sites.

Or maybe that's not offensive enough for you to crusade against....."

- Completely uncalled for. And stupid. I think shutting down these offensive sites are useful.
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yvanehtnioj reminds you that it's hear, hear, not here, here
02/26/09

@desertbloom79: Welcome to Dallas.

@DutchessOfDork: "So, Mr. Greene. How about deciding to do something REALLY useful like shutting down the child porn sites.

Or maybe that's not offensive enough for you to crusade against....."

Sad to say, but I've seen similar arguments crop up pretty regularly on Jez when a cause isn't deemed "important enough" to merit such a fuss. See: animal rights, fur, bad behavior by Obama staffers.
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hellosunshine
02/26/09

@yvanehtnioj: Please remember that some of us Dallasites are awesome, Fort Worthie!
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yvanehtnioj reminds you that it's hear, hear, not here, here
02/26/09

@tinycowboyhats: Oh I know. But that "this guy [who did something wonderful and compassionate] is a LOSER because he's an ATHEIST unlike me [unaccountabley vile, vitriolic jerkwad who thinks violence against women is an effective sales technique], because I'm a Christian. It says so right on my bumper sticker!" nonsense is part of why I left.

I meant Dallas as DFW, I don't actually think Ft. Worth is noticably better in this regard. You know I love you.
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whynotshesaid
02/26/09

@Little Green Frog: I just sent him an email of thanks. I was avoiding the comments - as I normally do, as they are like the septic tanks of public discourse - so I appreciate you letting us know his email was out there.
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Fridge Hussy : Is finally heading back to uni!
02/26/09

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Round these parts, we call 'em SINGLETS. Also, Patrick Greene is my new hero.
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sassy
02/26/09

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Why would anyone think that website was a good idea? Even if they just meant it in a humorous way?

It's time like this that I wish Elliot Stabler was real, so he could go hurt people.
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PrettyPrettyPrincess
02/26/09

@sassy wants her own tenth Doctor: I am not sure HOW they could have meant it in a humorous way, since they were offering discounts to customers who could prove they were convicted of domestic abuse. I can't even imagine how that could be humorous.... Unless the site was SERCRETLY run by a pack of vigilante feminazi boner-killers out to collect the names of abusive men?!?!?!?! That would be funny.
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hellosunshine
02/26/09

@sassy wants her own tenth Doctor: I do too, so I could sex him up good.

What were we talking about?
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RedHotz
02/26/09

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WTF?!? What kind of disgusting human glorifies the abuse of women? I would so love to give Patrick Greene a hug and buy him a drink.
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
02/26/09

@RedHotz: Seriously. This guy should get free drinks for life.
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NefariousNewt
02/26/09

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When reached on Tuesday, business owner James Doolin did not provide a comment about the closure of the site.

And let's hope it stays that way. There's nothing this shit-for-brains has to say that I want to hear.
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ellaesther
02/26/09

@NefariousNewt: Well. "I'm really sorry and have learned the error of my ways" would be ok. And bonus points for "I'm donating my profits to the nearest women's shelter."
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BabyJane
02/26/09

@ellaesther: "And I punched myself in the head for being such a nitwit."
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NefariousNewt
02/26/09

@ellaesther: Do you honestly think a guy like that is going to have an epiphany now and do just that? In my experience, any guy who goes to that length to put his misogyny out there like that isn't going to change his tune without the subtle application of a crowbar to his head.
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ellaesther
02/26/09

@NefariousNewt: Oh no, no, don't be silly! I'm just sayin'.
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morninggloria
02/26/09

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If Patrick Greene looks anything like Patrick Fitzgerald, sorry, Boyfriend. I'm moving to Texas.
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RosemaryF
02/26/09

@morninggloria: It's never a bad idea to move to Texas. I'm just sayin'.
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lalaland13
02/26/09

@morninggloria: Not if I get there first! And I'm from Texas, so there!

Kidding aside, I don't know that I met any guys like this in Texas. If I did, they were gay. Of course, I also never lived in a big city.
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18thfloor
02/26/09

@RosemaryF: Right. I'm just glad Texas is actually getting good press for a change! Normally, there's some backwoods moron (ahem Bush) giving us all a bad name!
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hellosunshine
02/26/09

@morninggloria: Sorry MoGlo, you'll have to fight some Texas Jezzies for him!
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hellosunshine
02/26/09

@18thfloor: Right? I'll ignore the fact that these douchenozzles were Dallas-based and instead focus on "yay awesome Texas guy!"
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ellaesther
02/26/09

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I have a very good, very very feminist (female) friend who looks great in this type of undershirt. And calls them wife-beaters. It is about the only thing I don't like about her -- man, she totally rocks! -- but it's so egregious that I don't even know what to say!
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kaiwhakamarie
02/26/09

@ellaesther:

I used to call them that, too. Without really thinking about what it meant. I'd been hearing them referred to as 'wifebeaters' for so long that I didn't even think twice. I wonder where that originated, anyway?

I work part time at a retail outlet and one of my co-workers was suggesting an undershirt to a customer, and said, 'Try on that red wifebeater, it'll look good on you'. And the customer was like, 'the red WHAT?' She had honestly never heard of the term and was completely appalled.
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lilbobbytables
02/26/09

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Good on him! It is inspiring to hear about him fighting against the site and what it stands for, although it is disheartening to hear that the site in the first place. It helps restore my faith in people, knowing that there are men and women who are appalled by such sites/behavior, and are working towards making things better. Good on you, Patrick Greene. And thank you.
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LaComtesse
02/26/09

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"The Web site sold white tank tops, commonly referred to as "wife-beaters," and gave a discount to anyone who could prove they were convicted of wife beating."

What. The. Fuck.

Patrick Green: well done, sir! A shining example of how feminism need not be limited by gender. I say we make him an official Jezebeau... or Jezefella... Jezeboy? What say the men of Jezebel? What's the preferred term?
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missteenwordpower
02/26/09

@LaComtesse: "Jezebeau" is nice for its relation to "Jezebelle". Plus, cutesy!
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Shamrockette
02/26/09

@LaComtesse: I honestly don't know. We don't have one, I think.

But I like Jezebeau.
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Nighthawk (the former Okori Wadsworth) is headed back to DGUSA in November!
02/26/09

@Shamrockette: Jezebeau, or Jeze-dude. either one is fine.
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argle-bargle? or fou-ferraw?
02/26/09

@LaComtesse: my vote is for jezebeau!
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NefariousNewt
02/26/09

@LaComtesse: Jezebeau works. Also Jezedude. Or in my case, Jezedroid.
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LaComtesse
02/26/09

@missteenwordpower is your sexy Ms. Magoo.: @Shamrockette: @NefariousNewt: @PacoHertez: Jezebeau FTW.
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hortense
02/26/09

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Not only is it a terrible, disgusting idea, but who buys wife-beaters online? You can get them at Target, under the appropriate name: undershirts.
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Shamrockette
02/26/09

@hortense: And again: capitalism using violence for a profit.
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BlondeGrlz
02/26/09

@hortense: Target doesn't give you a discount for being an actual wife beater. Which is the point in the story where my HEAD EXPLODED.
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Karenka
02/26/09

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Patrick Greene, who has for weeks searched for a way to remove the site from the Internet, said he was pleased that the site was removed. 'I felt like I was helping thousands of women, he said.

Aw, this guy made my day :)
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lilbobbytables
02/26/09

@Karenka: I know! I want to high five him! Or buy him a coffee!
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