@dirtybee: Me too! I had to do a triple take. I thought maybe it was a bold statement on being sexy. I can be sexy with my boob hanging out. Any female can.
@nolongerinacubiclestillawhore: OMG, I would give ANYTHING to have couple-skated to Barry Manilow. In my day, we got "Eternal Flame" and "Right Here Waiting" - both worthy, but nowhere close in awesomeness to Barry.
Dress #9 (JewelbyLisa) is one of the prettiest darn things I've seen in a long, long time! But unfortunately, I have a Land's End gift box in my basement that sports the exact same plaid as dress #15 (Lanre da Silva), so I'm afraid it looks, to me, as if it were made out of a Land's End box. Ah well, I imagine it's not in my price-point, anyway.
I've just had my *snap* #15 of the day. That mother sat there and read the horrid, nasty post her other daughter had made on the stupid pageant board and ACTUALLY ALLOWED HER TO DO SO??!!
Moses in a basket. I teach and we have drama on a daily basis that all started by kids making stupid, unkind posts or sending outrageously cruel IMs and texts after school hours. How could this mother POSSIBLY allow her daughter to say such vicious, cruel things about adults? Does she not believe in teaching her to respect ALL adults?
@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: or just respect all people in general. one time, I told my mom that I told a kid [who said that he would high-five the kid who made a BOMB THREAT against our school twice and put us in lock down] that I didn't like him and thought he was immature, and she was like "OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT. BE NICE!"
Some of the insults weren't very nice ("cottage cheese butt"), but they were picking on children, and I think the girl was pointing out that the moms aren't perfect, so they should stfu and stop picking on little girls.
I dunno, I found myself getting more angry over the grown women insulting a 10 year old than I did about a 13 year old defending her sister.
@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: I'm more horrified by the fact that she sat there and read the posts about the sister out loud in front of both girls! I agree with the other mom. Why would you let your child read those boards or be on them at all? Definitely don't read the bitchy posts about your child out loud!
Comparatively, at least the other daughter was sticking up for her sister even in a flame warry fashion.
@onestrawplz: Its more the issue that the adult would think it justifiable for their child to insult ANYONE. And yes, there are mothers here who are certainly setting a bad example.
I'm dealing with a little gem in one of my classes right now. It is clear this girl never had boundaries or rules. She absolutely refuses to follow any rule if it isn't what she wants to do. She speaks horribly about others - both students and teachers. I simply asked her to stop talking today when I had started to teach and her response was *eyeroll* "Bitch".
Mom says she hasn't been able to control her since she was 2. She's started 3 fights in the past month through her obnoxious texts which are designed to bring on the drama. Mom still refuses to take her cell or limit her computer time. I found out today that mom now has a civil suit pending against her for libel or something similar - she hacked another mother's MySpace page and, when caught, fully admitted to it with a "So what?" thrown in to boot.
I just hate to see parents setting poor examples or encouraging the type of behavior pictured in this clip.
@velveteen: I would also say that you should respect all people but you don't have to like everyone. I don't even think your comment was mean at all. Some kid pulls a bomb threat and your assessment is that he is immature and you are not a fan? Totally fair. The kids a little punk, period.
I especially don't like it that it always seems like people want GIRLS to be nice all the time. I am sorry, in something like the above situation I dont have a problem at all with calling it like you see it.
@MissSkittles is not your kind of lady: Sticking up for her, yes. But the way she did this? No. Two wrongs don't make a right. The mom should be teaching that concept to her daughters but instead she's reading the stupid insulting messages aloud to them! Then thinks responding in kind is an appropriate action.
That is horrible. What a little brat...and she seems hopeless if her mom is glaringly immature herself...I mean, stop being a "bff" and start being a parent. Real classy family you have on your hands, sorry you have to deal with that.
@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: I don't know...I don't have kids, so I may radically change my tune someday, but I kind of feel uncomfortable with the "respect all adults" blanket statement. Some people, such as those who make nasty, hurtful comments about a child in a public forum, don't really deserve respect.
That said, two wrongs don't make a right and all that, so I wouldn't have allowed my daughter to say that stuff either.
@ShinyMcShine: I would never allow my daughter to even see that stuff if I could help it, but if she did see it, I would probably be like "see? There are some adults that never mature; don't pay attention to people like this." /Exit screen. If she found it by herself and defended her sister, I would probably say something similar like "stay away from reading that stuff, those people are toxic." I would not, on the other hand, have anything to say to her about respecting those assholes because they are adults.
@ShinyMcShine: I'm not a big fan of "respect all adults" either. My parents were more into making sure you treated people decently/civilly whether you like/respect them or not. Respect for someone can be lost & deservedly as in the case of trash-talking pageant moms, but everyone deserves to be treated with civility.
@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpani, doggone it): My mom's a teacher & she often deals with crap like this and, except in extreme or unusual circumstances (ie. medical disorder) it's totally the parent's fault & their responsibility, but a lot seem to give up around age 2 when things get tough. Sigh.
@Ms. Crankypants: This was an argument I used to have with my mom whenever she had to come to an event that my dad would also be at. She'd be pissy and angry and be like, "I DON'T RESPECT HIM AND I AM ENTITLED TO MY FEELINGS." Yes, mom, but you can be civil to him and not start yelling at him like you did last time. Civility =/= respect.
@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: See, I think the older sister's post would have been totally within reason if she had stopped before the "thunder thighs" bit. Saying that you don't approve of grown women sitting around and bashing little kids is fine. Calling them all fat is sinking to their level.
@GirlTakeItEasy: The problem is, any sort of response to that sort of stuff encourages it to continue. There's just no upside; the bitches on that site certainly aren't going to back down from their bitching, and now it's made the older sister both invested and a target. It's not healthy for a preteen to be emotionally invested in a flamewar with supposedly grown women. It's also not healthy for the younger sister to see her older sister upset if this escalates, because in a way she could see it as her fault.
There really is no upside here. The parent should never have shared the site with her daughters, and if she absolutely MUST read it, then just store that information away and don't act on it.
I can't imagine going through school with the sort of social networking and instant communication now available. Nightmare.
@Ms. Crankypants: What a total copout though. Haven't been able to control a kid since 2? 2? Two? When it still requires some mental fluidity to translate what they are saying? Two? When one is still quite a bit physically larger than the child? Two, when all power is actually within the realm of the parent? Things aren't tough at two. Things are easy at two. Granted, they are more obnoxious at two than at 1. But they are still controllable. Sure, honey, have skittles for dinner (it'll shut her up and I don't have to deal with her whining and crying and carrying on). The problem is, the kid, and the rest of society, get to pay for a parent's lack of spine and gumption. I was wrassling my two year old into time out, holding her there, and counting down with the timer. Sucked. But it worked. God, I am so sick of people putting it on the KID at 2 years old. What a crock. The KID was uncontrollable? No, the kid was perfectly controllable. The parent just didn't want to BOTHER making the effort. God I'm glad it's friday. Humanity has just been pissing me off all week.
@neitherherenorthere: Sorry missed your point about 2 - I agree they're controllable, it just seems that that's when they start exerting their willpower & are more mobile/talkative & that's the age when lazy/inept parents often say it all started to go downhill, as opposed to what you did, which is to maintain parental control.
Amen on the Moleskines, they're my best new treat of 2008. In 2008, I discovered/remembered how much I love to draw, and my moleskine became a permanent fixture and I started posting all of my doodles on flickr, also a fab discovery, it's like a fantastic pen and ink artist colony online.
But my most wonderful discovery of 2008 is discovering that I am preggers!
I discovered Jezebel late late 2008! I hardly ever comment (to be honest, I'm a bit intimidated - but in a good way - by the wit and intelligence of other Jezebel commenters), but I do lurk a lot. I love this site! Happy New Year everyone!
I got an electric corkscrew for Christmas last year, and it looks like a lightsaber. I love it so, so much. It enables more drinking when you're not together enough to work a manual one.
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the pants on #15 look like bubble wrap. sitting would be interesting.
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03/26/09
Moses in a basket. I teach and we have drama on a daily basis that all started by kids making stupid, unkind posts or sending outrageously cruel IMs and texts after school hours. How could this mother POSSIBLY allow her daughter to say such vicious, cruel things about adults? Does she not believe in teaching her to respect ALL adults?
AAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH
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03/26/09
Some of the insults weren't very nice ("cottage cheese butt"), but they were picking on children, and I think the girl was pointing out that the moms aren't perfect, so they should stfu and stop picking on little girls.
I dunno, I found myself getting more angry over the grown women insulting a 10 year old than I did about a 13 year old defending her sister.
03/26/09
Comparatively, at least the other daughter was sticking up for her sister even in a flame warry fashion.
03/26/09
I'm dealing with a little gem in one of my classes right now. It is clear this girl never had boundaries or rules. She absolutely refuses to follow any rule if it isn't what she wants to do. She speaks horribly about others - both students and teachers. I simply asked her to stop talking today when I had started to teach and her response was *eyeroll* "Bitch".
Mom says she hasn't been able to control her since she was 2. She's started 3 fights in the past month through her obnoxious texts which are designed to bring on the drama. Mom still refuses to take her cell or limit her computer time. I found out today that mom now has a civil suit pending against her for libel or something similar - she hacked another mother's MySpace page and, when caught, fully admitted to it with a "So what?" thrown in to boot.
I just hate to see parents setting poor examples or encouraging the type of behavior pictured in this clip.
03/26/09
I especially don't like it that it always seems like people want GIRLS to be nice all the time. I am sorry, in something like the above situation I dont have a problem at all with calling it like you see it.
03/26/09
Oh this is just all sorts of NO.
03/26/09
That is horrible. What a little brat...and she seems hopeless if her mom is glaringly immature herself...I mean, stop being a "bff" and start being a parent. Real classy family you have on your hands, sorry you have to deal with that.
*weeping for society*
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That said, two wrongs don't make a right and all that, so I wouldn't have allowed my daughter to say that stuff either.
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@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpani, doggone it): My mom's a teacher & she often deals with crap like this and, except in extreme or unusual circumstances (ie. medical disorder) it's totally the parent's fault & their responsibility, but a lot seem to give up around age 2 when things get tough. Sigh.
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There really is no upside here. The parent should never have shared the site with her daughters, and if she absolutely MUST read it, then just store that information away and don't act on it.
I can't imagine going through school with the sort of social networking and instant communication now available. Nightmare.
03/27/09
Things aren't tough at two. Things are easy at two. Granted, they are more obnoxious at two than at 1. But they are still controllable. Sure, honey, have skittles for dinner (it'll shut her up and I don't have to deal with her whining and crying and carrying on). The problem is, the kid, and the rest of society, get to pay for a parent's lack of spine and gumption. I was wrassling my two year old into time out, holding her there, and counting down with the timer. Sucked. But it worked. God, I am so sick of people putting it on the KID at 2 years old. What a crock. The KID was uncontrollable? No, the kid was perfectly controllable. The parent just didn't want to BOTHER making the effort. God I'm glad it's friday. Humanity has just been pissing me off all week.
03/27/09
01/01/09
2) The Algarve coast in Portugal.
3) Guarana, that ridiculous Brazilian soft drink.
4) It's Always Sunny in Philadalphia
5) The joys of working from home in my pajamas.
01/01/09
But my most wonderful discovery of 2008 is discovering that I am preggers!
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12/31/08
Mr. Hippity's Project Runway and Top Chef liveblogs.
The DNC and RNC convention liveblogs.
Cosmedix skincare stuff.
Growing bok choy.
Negroni cocktails.
Recycled glass countertops-- best indulgence of the year.
Snorkeling.
John Adams (the president, the HBO series and the David McCullough biography-- made me rethink my previous undying love for Thomas Jefferson).
P.S. That's Anjelica Huston modeling the Calder jewelry.
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