I actually don't have too much trouble with that law. Those types are on the books everywhere. In Charlotte, NC it is illegal for women to appear in public wearing less than 16 yards of fabric and they're not supposed to wear red shoes in Charleston, SC. It's silly that they've never bothered to repeal it, but there are laws like that all over the place that just never got repealed. As long as no one is actually being arrested for wearing trousers in public I don't particularly care. #paristrousers
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: I have no problem with these laws unless they're enforced. Like when I can't by liquor in my beloved homestate of CT on a Sunday, or how more than 6(?) women can't live together in MA. I just don't GET Blue Laws. As my husband says, "They're not like the laws of physics: you can change them!" #paristrousers
@LaComtesse: I do hate blue laws something fierce. I used to cashier at a grocery store and people would get all pissy about it, like I had some say in the matter. Our cash registers wouldn't even LET US ring up liquor Sunday mornings. Write your congresspeople!
Also, in Florida it's illegal to shower while naked. #paristrousers
@LaComtesse: Some laws, however, I wish would be enforced -- in some parts of TX it is illegal to spit on the sidewalk. I wade through about 3" of spit on my way out to my car on a thursday or friday night. Texas rednecks HATE to swallow their own spit. And they love activities which require them to spit (like dip). #paristrousers
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: In CT, more than 6 (or maybe 7) women in a house constitutes a brothel and it's considered illegal. That's why there are hardly any sororities at Connecticut schools. #paristrousers
@femme-bot: I can tell you personally that the sizable Orthodox Jewish community in Bergen, who can only do their leisure shopping on Sundays, do NOT appreciate this. #paristrousers
@femme-bot: I can tell you personally that the sizable Orthodox Jewish community in Bergen, who can only do their leisure shopping on Sundays, do NOT appreciate this. #paristrousers
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: I feel you, Zombie. I live in Georgia and worked at Kroger last summer. EVERY single Sunday, people would angrily lecture me about the stupidity of banning Sunday alcohol sales, and I was always dumbfounded. I mean, seriously? What, you think I, a college-age cashier, wrote the legislature regulating alcohol sales? #paristrousers
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: @PipPipCheerio: I'm pretty sure my mother and grandmother do this everywhere they go. One day my grandmother even tried to make the argument that since they didn't live in the state, it shouldn't matter. In their defense, they really do want their gin. Really.
P.S. @PipPipCheerio: I really like your commenter name and avatar. A LOT.
@femme-bot: There's no Ikea in Short Hill *shakes fist*! Besides, it's shooting the county in the foot--that's a LOT of business they're missing out on.
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: My two favourites: In Atlanta you can't tie a giraffe to a telephone pole. And in Lexington, KY you can't carry an ice cream cone in your pocket. #paristrousers
@colormeroutine: In Ireland, they repealed a law against Jews owning certain kinds of armour about four years ago. Which makes me (as an Irish Jew) desperately wish I'd bought some armour before that point, just to stick it to the man. #paristrousers
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: I care about these laws, since they set a precedent for dress codes. In workplaces here in CA, women are sometimes expected to wear skirts or dresses for "formal" attire. Companies often use dress codes as an excuse to fire women, not to promote women, or not to hire them in the first place. It's not unusual to hear a working woman's outfit get labeled "provocative" (a label never used on men), or to hear a woman who wears pantsuits get called "dowdy" and "unfeminine" (or other things Hillary Clinton was called during the '08 campaign.)
Dress codes are both written and unwritten, and the fact that women in CA could still be forced to wear skirts in the workplace up until 1995 is depressing (in 1995, women in CA got the right to wear pants to work. Until then, there were cases where workplaces could pressure or force women to wear skirts.) #paristrousers
@roxythekiller: This is why, if God loves me, I will never ever have to have a job where jeans are not acceptable. So far I've managed pretty well. #paristrousers
I have no tolerance for any dress codes, except for those advocating cleanliness and safety. Basically, a person's right to freedom of expression ends when my or their health is seriously threatened (or I can smell them before I see them.) That's always been my take.
However, these concepts are sometimes confused with pseudo-science, and pseudo-science is sometimes used in furthering prejudicical dress code rules. For example, curly hair is not messy of flea-ridden, although the prejudice that it is has lead to written and unwritten dress codes that forced women to straighten their hair in order to be "clean."
I'm familiar with this because I have very curly hair, and wore short skirts in high school. Somehow, the former was translated to "messy" (since most people in my school were born with straight hair, and thought I had fleas. Some people suggested I buy a brush in order to look "neater.") Short skirts translated not only to being labeled as "slutty", but lead to me getting pulled out of class multiple times--- and to several angry phonecalls from a cranky school official who threatened my mom with child negligence. Apparently, wearing a short skirt causes you to get colds!
When I did get sick, it wasn't from the cold... it was from the stress and lack of sleep caused by high weekend-homework loads as well as the stress of constantly being insulted and belittled by adults for the way I chose to dress (and it usually was adults. The classmates who criticized me were often trying to copy the adults, and seem like "good girls" or "moral young men." This was actually why I wore the skirt... I did not like how dress codes divided girls in my school into "Good" and "Bad.")
The situation grew so frustrating that I played sick so I could work from home, and not have to deal with bullies. I was not the only one who did this.
And, before anyone starts making the "short skirts are distracting" argument, let me just say that cute boys with long, dark bangs are also distracting to a sex-deprived girl like me, but that it would be silly to call them out of class for being "provocative" and "distracting." Anything that isn't Christian, Straight, White, Upper-middle-class and "mainstream" has been singled out in a dress code at one point or another throughout US and European history.
I know that not everyone understands where I'm coming from, and that I will have to compromise at some point by putting on a suit and tie. However, I will actively choose to not be a member of the Fashion Police. We all have the power not to single out people who buck dress codes, and we can all avoid judging people by their clothing. #paristrousers
@A Small Turnip: The only good comments on that thread are the suggestions that women go to their local police stations en masse and ask for permission to wear trousers. I'm a firm believer in repealing stupid laws through driving those responsible for their enforcement crazy enough to complain to their elected officials.
Hey, wait a minute, how come its OK for French Vogue to call that leopard print "tribal" and "ethnic"? I mean, I guess they don't really specify which "tribe" or ethnic group its supposedly from, but still...
They say when women's hemlines go up, so does the economy. With the state we're in it's no wonder women have just stopped wearing skirts and pants altogether. We've got to do our part, after all.
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P.S. @PipPipCheerio: I really like your commenter name and avatar. A LOT.
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Dress codes are both written and unwritten, and the fact that women in CA could still be forced to wear skirts in the workplace up until 1995 is depressing (in 1995, women in CA got the right to wear pants to work. Until then, there were cases where workplaces could pressure or force women to wear skirts.) #paristrousers
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However, these concepts are sometimes confused with pseudo-science, and pseudo-science is sometimes used in furthering prejudicical dress code rules. For example, curly hair is not messy of flea-ridden, although the prejudice that it is has lead to written and unwritten dress codes that forced women to straighten their hair in order to be "clean."
I'm familiar with this because I have very curly hair, and wore short skirts in high school. Somehow, the former was translated to "messy" (since most people in my school were born with straight hair, and thought I had fleas. Some people suggested I buy a brush in order to look "neater.") Short skirts translated not only to being labeled as "slutty", but lead to me getting pulled out of class multiple times--- and to several angry phonecalls from a cranky school official who threatened my mom with child negligence. Apparently, wearing a short skirt causes you to get colds!
When I did get sick, it wasn't from the cold... it was from the stress and lack of sleep caused by high weekend-homework loads as well as the stress of constantly being insulted and belittled by adults for the way I chose to dress (and it usually was adults. The classmates who criticized me were often trying to copy the adults, and seem like "good girls" or "moral young men." This was actually why I wore the skirt... I did not like how dress codes divided girls in my school into "Good" and "Bad.")
The situation grew so frustrating that I played sick so I could work from home, and not have to deal with bullies. I was not the only one who did this.
And, before anyone starts making the "short skirts are distracting" argument, let me just say that cute boys with long, dark bangs are also distracting to a sex-deprived girl like me, but that it would be silly to call them out of class for being "provocative" and "distracting." Anything that isn't Christian, Straight, White, Upper-middle-class and "mainstream" has been singled out in a dress code at one point or another throughout US and European history.
I know that not everyone understands where I'm coming from, and that I will have to compromise at some point by putting on a suit and tie. However, I will actively choose to not be a member of the Fashion Police. We all have the power not to single out people who buck dress codes, and we can all avoid judging people by their clothing. #paristrousers
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