My hubby runs marathons, has done two ultra marathons (50K). I can't imagine him removing his toenails. He just keeps them super short. And deals with the bruises and blisters like any other runner. Geesh.
And yay for the FGM gal. That bit of news made me smile. Thank you. #cervarix
@wtfox?!: Even better...I read the article and then went and found the pics of somebody having them removed. They take out the nail and then use acid to prevent it from growing back. Wowza! #cervarix
I actually had the pinky nail on my right hand ripped out once (by accident), and it is possibly the most horrifying thing I have ever seen. Do you know how far under your skin your nail actually goes? A long fucking way, let me tell you. #cervarix
@sassyredhead: I actually had this done because I have super thin big toenails - best decision of my life. I am now completely pain free and never have to worry about them growing back. It was initially, during the procedure, very alarming, but after it had healed I am 110%. It looks completely clean and bare now. #cervarix
@wtfox?!: *raises both hands*
It also brought back memories of friend losing toenail after waterskiing incident, which provoked additional wincing and toe-curling. #cervarix
@Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: Dr. Bowers is awesome, she's been in a bunch of tv shows about transgender surgeries and she's just a fantastic person. #cervarix
@JoStockton: They've been accused of it, not proven---and it's based on the suspicions of somebody who noticed similarities in their stories. Well, guess what? Abusers tend to abuse in the same ways. It works, that's why. What next? A rape victim gets called a liar because she claims the rapist penetrated her, just like some other victim claimed? #cervarix
@Ginmar Rienne: From what it sounds like, the issue isn't that their stories are similar, the issue is that the paperwork and documentation is virtually identical. While a lot of people's stories might be similar, everyone tells their own story in a different way. It sounds like the descriptions were verbatim, which is what tweaked someone.
I'm inclined to believe that the people who work in the field that would be in a position to catch this kind of fraud would be very wary of falsely accusing someone of falsifying claims of abuse.
The reality is that resources for protecting women who are abused are so thin on the ground anyway, and if these women were actually doing this, it's pretty heinous. Especially if they're trading on the idea that no one will challenge their story, because it's not PC to. #cervarix
@Ginmar Rienne: It's not similarities in their stories. It's similarities in the forged documents they used to make their cases. According to the NY Times, a court-issued temporary order of protection, a domestic incident report from the Police Department and a letter from Safe Horizon, an agency that works with domestic violence victims that were included in these women's applications were all forged. Yes, they are innocent until proven guilty, but there was enough evidence to arrest them for forgery.
@Ginmar Rienne: Um, this thread was about the awesome doctor, not the potentially fake victims. While, I feel your point is important, you should have made your very own comment about it, instead of threadjacking.
So much for focusing on the positives in the Leftovers tonight. #cervarix
@Maritsa: I had a boyfriend in college who donated sperm to make money - you go in and fill out a form, then make your deposit. Whereas egg donation requires you to fill out like a 5 page form, get approved, come in to give your full family medical history, have a medical exam, etc. For some reason it's much more rigorous. #cervarix
Days away from having baby #5, and having had 1 natural, 1 induced, 1 24+ hr labor, and one w/every complication known, I have nothing good to say about natural childbirth. It was incredibly traumatic and felt barbaric. The hospital where I'll deliver soon is already on notice to administer horse tranquilizer the second I arrive. Caveman birth=Not. Worth. Whatever. You. Are. Trying. to. Prove.
It feels really strange that on this site... something as empowering as natural childbirth isn't revered. It's not manditory and no on is a pussy for not wanting to do it. But when someone says that a womans natural journey through birth has a purpose and can benefit and empower a mother and this site trashes them... (because they're a man?? what if a female midwife said it?) I'm confused.
@KentuckyBabe: What is being trashed is the idea that there is only one right way to deliver a baby. There isn't. Natural childbirth ain't all that empowering for a lot of women. It's dangerous or painful. Not to say it can't be empowering but the idea that it's empowering because it's women fulfilling their natural destinies (as this guy seems to be implying) is troubling to say the least.
@LaComtesse: You're right that if he were saying it's the ONLY way to give birth it would be disturbing but I interpreted him more as saying that there's a lot of needless intervention. Not, go natural or go to hell.
A lot of people just automatically assume they can't handle it and immediately order their epidurals. Sure, not having pain is better than having pain but there's something to be said for experiencing a natural process.
It's empowering because going through something that intense shows how strong you can be. It's something uniquely female. I don't like it when people (mostly men)cringe when I talk about my sisters having natural births and assume that a woman can't possibly do it without medical help. Then they imply that only hippies give birth naturally and make fun of it as being some ridiculous "spiritual experience". God forbid!
I don't want to sound all high and mighty. I am speaking with what the women around me have experienced. I haven't given birth, I PLAN to do it naturally but who knows how I'll react!
I wonder if that midwife (dude??) takes aspirin when he gets a headache or tums when he gets indigestion? Do you think he gets anesthesia when he has dental work done? Or does he refuse all that nasty "modern" medical intervention because the pain will make him a better person? I bet not.
In medical school, I did my time on the OB ward and let me tell you, an epidural birth was such a peaceful experience. The mother was relaxed, not in pain, able to converse with those arounde her. At some point she says "I'm feeling some pressure" and she's told to push. Voila -- baby comes out and gets to hold her baby while delivering her placenta and getting sewn up (if necessary).
However, in the births where there was no pain control, the mother screamed for HOURS. When the baby finally came out, she got to deal with the placenta a few minutes later. And THEN gets to get sewn up and maybe a hand stuck up there to make sure the uterus is evaculated totally. She was obviously in pain, screaming for hours. I have no clue why anyone would want to go through with that when there is a nice epidural which can make the whole thing a much more pleasant experience. Ugh how awful!!
Guys, guys, guys, relax! I've seen LOTS of births on TV. Here's how it goes:
The woman is screaming and crazy-eyed all the way to the hospital. Once in bed, she tells her husband that she hates him because he did this to her, then squeezes his hand so hard that it makes him crumple up in pain. While she has previously said she wanted a natural birth, once the contractions really start, she will scream for DRUGS, and you'd best not delay or she will murder you with her (crazy!) eyes. Then she gets an epidural and lies back on her pillow with a smile, occasionally saying little loopy things like, "Drugs are amazing. I love you." Then the doctor says it's time to push, she scrunches up her face a little, and the baby comes out! She cries, and the next day she leaves the hospital looking just as trim as the day she got married! The end.
Yes, women need to be prepared for motherhood through several hours of searing pain. Because the preceding 9 months didn't prepare them at all. Childbirth: it's the all-night cram session of motherhood!
For what it's worth, I've heard a female pre-natal instructor give nearly the same advice, saying that the pain of labor is an important part of a woman's gender experience that male doctors are trying to erase with drugs. (The teacher also made the point that while she has never been pregnant, she runs in marathons, a similar experience that qualifies her to identify with women in the pains of delivery.)
@The Lone Scout: Hmm. I've run marathons and given birth, and the marathons were a breeze in comparison. Also, you can always step out of a marathon; ain't no stepping out of a birth.
@KentuckyBabe: @KentuckyBabe: My points exactly. During the class, a pregnant woman (clearly annoyed by the instructor's point of view) asked, will the epi harm either my baby or me? The marathoner sheepishly admitted, no. The woman said thanks and that was that.
Well, obviously we shouldn't extend the reach of modern medicine to childbirth, or use preventive care during labor to head off complications. That's CRAZY talk!
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And yay for the FGM gal. That bit of news made me smile. Thank you. #cervarix
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I actually had the pinky nail on my right hand ripped out once (by accident), and it is possibly the most horrifying thing I have ever seen. Do you know how far under your skin your nail actually goes? A long fucking way, let me tell you. #cervarix
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It also brought back memories of friend losing toenail after waterskiing incident, which provoked additional wincing and toe-curling. #cervarix
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Oh, that is so wonderful, that's a really positive step... they pretended what? So they could WHAT?
Hope... RAGE. Ah leftovers. #cervarix
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I'm inclined to believe that the people who work in the field that would be in a position to catch this kind of fraud would be very wary of falsely accusing someone of falsifying claims of abuse.
The reality is that resources for protecting women who are abused are so thin on the ground anyway, and if these women were actually doing this, it's pretty heinous. Especially if they're trading on the idea that no one will challenge their story, because it's not PC to. #cervarix
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[www.nytimes.com] #cervarix
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So much for focusing on the positives in the Leftovers tonight. #cervarix
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A lot of people just automatically assume they can't handle it and immediately order their epidurals. Sure, not having pain is better than having pain but there's something to be said for experiencing a natural process.
It's empowering because going through something that intense shows how strong you can be. It's something uniquely female. I don't like it when people (mostly men)cringe when I talk about my sisters having natural births and assume that a woman can't possibly do it without medical help. Then they imply that only hippies give birth naturally and make fun of it as being some ridiculous "spiritual experience". God forbid!
I don't want to sound all high and mighty. I am speaking with what the women around me have experienced. I haven't given birth, I PLAN to do it naturally but who knows how I'll react!
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In medical school, I did my time on the OB ward and let me tell you, an epidural birth was such a peaceful experience. The mother was relaxed, not in pain, able to converse with those arounde her. At some point she says "I'm feeling some pressure" and she's told to push. Voila -- baby comes out and gets to hold her baby while delivering her placenta and getting sewn up (if necessary).
However, in the births where there was no pain control, the mother screamed for HOURS. When the baby finally came out, she got to deal with the placenta a few minutes later. And THEN gets to get sewn up and maybe a hand stuck up there to make sure the uterus is evaculated totally. She was obviously in pain, screaming for hours. I have no clue why anyone would want to go through with that when there is a nice epidural which can make the whole thing a much more pleasant experience. Ugh how awful!!
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The woman is screaming and crazy-eyed all the way to the hospital. Once in bed, she tells her husband that she hates him because he did this to her, then squeezes his hand so hard that it makes him crumple up in pain. While she has previously said she wanted a natural birth, once the contractions really start, she will scream for DRUGS, and you'd best not delay or she will murder you with her (crazy!) eyes. Then she gets an epidural and lies back on her pillow with a smile, occasionally saying little loopy things like, "Drugs are amazing. I love you." Then the doctor says it's time to push, she scrunches up her face a little, and the baby comes out! She cries, and the next day she leaves the hospital looking just as trim as the day she got married! The end.
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