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    President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
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    Image of CordeliaShirley CordeliaShirley
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    Karzai told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that he and others were unaware of the provision in the legislation, which he said "has so many articles."


    'OOh, gee! LAWS have so many ARTICLES, my poor eyes get so tired from reading them! Tra la!"

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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    I'm glad it was reversed but it's not like the men are going to be punished for raping their wives from here on out. Are they really going to prosecute men for raping their wives now? Doubtful.
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    04/17/09

    @SarahMC: For some reason I typed nearly the same exact sentence twice. Not sure why.
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    Image of AuntieBee AuntieBee
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    I understand how a lot of previous commenters feel like there should be no recognition/praise of Karzai for this. I do understand. The law should never have been passed in the first place, and should never have been defended. However, I remember my Psych class teaching me about reinforcement principles and conditioning, and as I understood it is important to acknowledge positive behaviours. We understand this with our dogs, we understand this with our children. It is also true for human adults, I think.


    So, good for you, sir, for realizing that you did a very bad, very hurtful thing and taking steps to undo it.

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    Image of TheUptightMidwesterner TheUptightMidwesterner
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    I don't like Karzai, but his chances of getting elected again are nil, because he signed this into law to get shiite support in the election. Now he's on the shit list.
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    Image of colormeroutine colormeroutine
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    Not that reversing the official law is going to make it stop happening in an environment where the law seemed at all reasonable in the first place
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    Image of scandalouskiki scandalouskiki
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    "My bad! Pretend I didn't do that."


    Nice try, Karzai. I'm glad to see the law has been reversed, but I still question how it got passed in the first place. *sigh*

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    Image of ronaldpagan ronaldpagan
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    So Afghanistan is more advanced than that Wayne dude in Alaska.
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    Image of PhDork PhDork
    04/17/09

    @ronaldpagan: Snap!
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    Image of BellaTricks BellaTricks
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    Baby steps, people. Baby steps. I'm not giving Karzai unqualified praise, but this is a step in the right direction- even if it's one that should have had to be taken in the first place.
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    Image of dreamweave dreamweave
    04/17/09

    @BellaTricks: Agreed. Though it may be frustrating, we aren't going to bring Afghanistan to the forefront of equal rights by not being gracious where we can.
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    Image of Cerridwen Cerridwen
    04/17/09

    @BellaTricks: I'm pissed as hell that the law was even drafted in the first place. And I refuse to praise Karzai for essentially being a coward in every respect.


    But I am happy that the law was rescinded and I am a pragmatist, if nothing else. This situation is better than legalized rape and that is a good thing.

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    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    This is like the legislative equivalent of a non-apology apology. "Sorry we were total misogynistic assholes! We'll just reverse it and pretend there was no real broad anti-woman sentiments in the first place."
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    Image of BellaTricks BellaTricks
    04/17/09

    @sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit): Which, although disappointing, is still better than the alternative.
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    04/17/09

    @BellaTricks: Oh yeah, it is better, but I insist on calling a spade a spade in this case. It's not like anyone who supported this law saw the light regarding its immorality.
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    Image of BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit) BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    Thank God for the people (journalists? Amnesty?) who really brought this to light. Public Shaming 1 / Fucktards 0.
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    Image of kelsium kelsium
    04/17/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): Sometimes I want to blow up the internet, but sometimes it is nice to see how quickly and effectively it can dismantle bullshit like this.
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    Image of Ms. Crankypants Ms. Crankypants
    04/17/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): As mentioned above by Sputnk_Sweetheart, the women of Afghanistan who bravely fought against this risking their lives, deserve the lion's share of the praise. I think both international & domestic pressure were necessary to get this travesty fixed.
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    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    Jesus. The term "legalized marital rape" makes me want to throw up.
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    Image of CurtCole CurtCole
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    For a second I felt like clapping, then I remember this should never have been a law in the first place.
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    Image of maneki neko maneki neko
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    I first read this headline as "martial rape law"...which seems fitting, actually.
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    Image of pear.shaped.Sara pear.shaped.Sara
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    In this case I think the ends justify the means since it affects so many people in their daily lives... but he's far from getting a thumbs up.


    I'm watching you Karzai *narrows eyes menacingly*

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    Image of lilbobbytables lilbobbytables
    04/17/09

    In reply to President Karzai Reverses Marital Rape Law
    Karzai told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that he and others were unaware of the provision in the legislation, which he said "has so many articles." Karzai signed the measure into law last month.


    Well, reading is lame, so it makes sense that he would just sign it to avoid going through all that crap.


    /sarcasm.

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    Image of Sophie needs to study...damn Sophie needs to study...damn
    04/17/09

    @lilbobbytables: On NPR, one of the signers of the law was out protesting AGAINST its enactment. He explained that there were many versions of the law passed around and some versions were written up and included after legislators signed it. Sounds like the bill-making process in Afghanistan needs a lot more transparency, among other things.
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