I have to wonder: Why, when Beth Ditto strips off her clothes, is it considered beyond critique (and in fact, she's hailed as being awesome, fun, and kick-ass) while when other female singers/performers do it they're criticized or labeled dirty/a tart/etc.?
I don't know how to delicately suggest this, but I get the uncomfortable feeling that some people think it's awesome that a non-skinny girl is proud of her body but, at the same time, feel that skinny girls (despite also being proud of their bodies) ought to keep their clothes on...
Now, I'm not offended by Ditto's strip-happy routines, but I am also pretty certain that if Ditto were, say, Britney Spears, the commentary following such an act would spawn at least a few worsties. What I really want to know is: If taking off her clothes is subversive and cool for Ditto, then why not for other women? OR, if it's not, then why aren't more people stepping up saying that she ought to keep her pants on?
@zakkagirl: I agree with you here a bit. I can see why people think it's cool and empowering that she can be so proud of her body, but also why it's a double standard that other women are made to feel bad about it.
I think maybe it's something to do with the way she goes about it? When people Britney Spears do it, they are doing it simply to use their bodies in a sexual way to sell their product. When Beth does it I feel like it appears less sexual because she's kind of shouting, dancing, screaming in your face, rather than touching herself up while singing 'If U Seek Amy'.
Maybe there isn't a big distinction, therefore maybe they should all keep their clothes on a bit more?
I was about to post something very similar to this. The responses to this are - "Why is Beth Ditto so awesome! I want her to be my friend!"
With Britney, I feel like they would say things like, "Oh, Britney."
And Britney is maybe not the best example. Let's say it was Madonna. Or Fergie. Or lets think of the criticism that the Pussycat Dolls get. Why the double standard?
@trakkie: It is not a double standard if one person is doing something to buck the standard and another is doing the same thing that everyone else does. In entertainment image is everything and the image of the Pussycat Dolls doing their barely-dressed pop thing is a completely different one than Beth Ditto stripping. One follows the norm and the other is alternative to the norm.
Beth seriously MAKE MORE MUSIC! Or write a book, or a play, or paint, or DO SOMETHING. Your merry-go-round of fashion shows/magazine covers is becoming confusing and tiring. Please?
Hey Forever 21, Eighth circle of hell has some nice pits set aside for thieves and falsifiers. It doesn't seem pretty or fun down there, so maybe do some reading up on this Christianity thing that you seem so fond of.
@Fate'sBitch: i think there's a special place for people who wear t-shirts of bands who's music they've not heard too...
i generally give people the benefit of the doubt, but i'm pretty sure that the majority of people who shop at forever 21 aren't devoted minor threat fans.
@batfink: I can only imagine what it must have sounded like when Ian MacKaye was informed that his band's image was being used by F21....awesome......wish I could have been a fly on the wall.
@TriedandTrue: Me too. I hope he would have lost his shit. I love Minor Threat. And now, I will never ever shop at Forever 21. I also refuse to buy Nike. I keep grudges when people mess with bands I love.
Page Six is reporting that Anna Wintour shook hands with PETA vice-president Dan Matthews at the Stella McCartney show in Paris
The Rabin-Arafat handshake of the fashion world! How exciting. However, I suspect the goodwill generated from this rapprochement will last about as long as that from its predecessor.
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Psht! Tester bottles are for rubes! When I release my perfume, Feminist Starts with F,U Jerk!, the guests at my party will have to punch their way through a gauntlet of flashers, sexual harassers, and the pundits of Fox News to even get into the smelling room. Once inside, the ghost of Betty Friedan will describe the scent to them, in Haiku, and then squirt it in their faces, representing the jizzing that women experience routinely.
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And that's why she's the boss.
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I don't know how to delicately suggest this, but I get the uncomfortable feeling that some people think it's awesome that a non-skinny girl is proud of her body but, at the same time, feel that skinny girls (despite also being proud of their bodies) ought to keep their clothes on...
Now, I'm not offended by Ditto's strip-happy routines, but I am also pretty certain that if Ditto were, say, Britney Spears, the commentary following such an act would spawn at least a few worsties. What I really want to know is: If taking off her clothes is subversive and cool for Ditto, then why not for other women? OR, if it's not, then why aren't more people stepping up saying that she ought to keep her pants on?
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I think maybe it's something to do with the way she goes about it? When people Britney Spears do it, they are doing it simply to use their bodies in a sexual way to sell their product. When Beth does it I feel like it appears less sexual because she's kind of shouting, dancing, screaming in your face, rather than touching herself up while singing 'If U Seek Amy'.
Maybe there isn't a big distinction, therefore maybe they should all keep their clothes on a bit more?
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I was about to post something very similar to this. The responses to this are - "Why is Beth Ditto so awesome! I want her to be my friend!"
With Britney, I feel like they would say things like, "Oh, Britney."
And Britney is maybe not the best example. Let's say it was Madonna. Or Fergie. Or lets think of the criticism that the Pussycat Dolls get. Why the double standard?
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Beth, I need your secrets. I'll pay handsomely (if your idea of handsomely is a quarter, a button, and some pocket lint).
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i generally give people the benefit of the doubt, but i'm pretty sure that the majority of people who shop at forever 21 aren't devoted minor threat fans.
yeah. my inner snob is out in full force today.
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When will people learn not to mess with Ian MacKaye?
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The Rabin-Arafat handshake of the fashion world! How exciting. However, I suspect the goodwill generated from this rapprochement will last about as long as that from its predecessor.
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Oh yeah, it's because she is AWESOME.
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I can't stand when people don't have eyebrows. Everything else could be perfect, but they still look like...snakes or something.
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Thank you for this.
Also, can we add Angela Davis in there, for good measure? Maybe yelling something regarding the importance (or lack thereof) of identifying hairdos?
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