I think Madmen is to some degree diluting their brand by partnering with Banana Republic. I like the clothes style too, but it's a little too Disney or Harry Potter Warner Bros marketing for me. Buy products which allow you to live in your fictional fantasy world! In the NYT piece they also refer to a Madmen inspired NYC trip. I love Madmen. The world is presents, however, is meant to be criticized, not emulated. Do the racist and misogynist attitudes come all inclusive in this travel package?
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Ladies, BR is owned by Gap Inc, and you know how Gap feels about their higher-end brands and ladies of the curvaceous persuasion. They'd NEVER do Joan dresses-- they can't even get curvy jeans right, why would they attempt dresses that curve in multiple places?
@Tiger Lourdes: Zombie Hunter: You're so lucky. I have all three and only can do ON jeans-- which last about two-three months before my thighs of destruction kill them.
@Ipomoea is a joyful girl: It's funny; I consider myself "curvy" and Banana Republic fits me much better than Gap. I think that the tailoring helps me out and the flimsy nature of the Gap only highlights any "flaws" rather than highlighting assets.
The Chanel video was fascinating. I'd definitely watch a documentary about the formation of a dress from beginning to end (formation of fabric to runway).
Someone needs to give Mr. Timberlake and Charles W. Givenchy or whoever is in charge over there a lesson on adverbs. It's play intensely. No wonder kids nowadays all write like Carrie Prejean.
@NellMood: I seem to recall reading (right here on Jezebel, my source of pretty much all information most days!) that some designer was doing a Joan-inspired line -- but then, that was a designer, not someone who might produce clothes that I might be able to afford. Not that BR is often in that category, but, you know, it's at least within shouting distance.
@NellMood: Two great sources for Joan dresses (of which I have wayyyy too many) are eBay and www.kittygirlvintage.com. The trick is to go by the "flat measurements" of the dress, which is just as it sounds, laying the dress flat and measuring the waist, hips and bust (armpit-to-armpit). And it is easy to find larger sizes as well. Just search for "Bombshell wiggle dress vintage" and blam! tons will appear. Also, Stop Staring! makes Joan-esque dresses. Yes, I have an online vintage shopping problem that should have landed me on Intervention a while ago.
@ellaesther: Oh, yes, I remember reading about that, too. But I would love to walk into one of my city's ten million banana republics and pick something up.
@AvantGardenia: Ooh, I'll check out that site- thanks! Online vintage shopping seems like a pretty fabulous addiction. Hopefully no one intervenes on you.
@vintagegoddess:I'm terrible at shopping for vintage clothes. Terrible. It's like I'm missing a life skill. But I'm going to check out your stuff- maybe I'll be successful.
@egg cream is here, is second tier, get used to it: For real. I am shaped almost exactly like that. VERY large bust, VERY large hips, tiny waist. But, I'm short. Therefore, everything I wear makes me look like I am wearing a giant boxy sheet. Bleh.
@egg cream is here, is second tier, get used to it: Seriously! I was so excited by the headline (despite my normal indifference to/dislike of BR) and then.. crushing disappointment. Woe. Where are my Joan office clothes and Betty dresses?
Yes, little girls, you can one day model clothing regardless of the color of your skin. Or the content of your character. Just your height, weight and hip/waist ratio.
Wow, I just got around to reading this, but I too want to say that you did a great job with a very blurry area.
Regardless of whatever the models want to call themselves, you've done a pretty good job of identifying ethnicity - which gets muddled with nationality.
Also, I think that you made the right choice with Lopez. You don't have to be from the US to be considered Black - that just means that you are of African descent, and we're everywhere.
Many people would be surprised to realize that there are African Americans in Canada (also North America), and Central and South America as it's just a classification for people of African descent in the Americas.
@Definer-not-defined: The trouble is, much of the rest of the Americas chafe at being under the same label as the USofA. If I were to say that I am American, because I DO live in the Americas, it wouldn't be true. Residents of the US should be tasked with coming up with a new name, that wasn't co-opted from a much larger group of peoples, perhaps.
This is wonderful! I find this absolutely fascinating, and it's so nice to have graphics and charts to refer to.
I just have one little nitpick: would it be possible to put the legend on the chart? It would make it a million times easier to read with the colored boxed next to the descriptions.
I may be the only one with this issue, though, so... :D
This must have taken a buttload of work, and I sure am impressed!
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Vintage online shops, not to toot my own horn I've got a couple of "Joan"ish dresses listed right now....
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AND WHERE IS THE LINE OF DRESSES INSPIRED BY THE HOT, HOT LADIES? WTF?
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Regardless of whatever the models want to call themselves, you've done a pretty good job of identifying ethnicity - which gets muddled with nationality.
Also, I think that you made the right choice with Lopez. You don't have to be from the US to be considered Black - that just means that you are of African descent, and we're everywhere.
Many people would be surprised to realize that there are African Americans in Canada (also North America), and Central and South America as it's just a classification for people of African descent in the Americas.
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I just have one little nitpick: would it be possible to put the legend on the chart? It would make it a million times easier to read with the colored boxed next to the descriptions.
I may be the only one with this issue, though, so... :D
This must have taken a buttload of work, and I sure am impressed!
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