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par3
04/26/09

In reply to Outraged Aussies Say Miss Universe Contestant Is "Skin And Bones"
lol Macedonian-type body...so yay i guess every country in the balkans gets their own body type- i need to make a magazine feature. are you a Serbian-shape or Croatian-shape? that's hilarious- the most uneducated statement i've heard in a while.
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LaFemme
04/23/09

In reply to Outraged Aussies Say Miss Universe Contestant Is "Skin And Bones"
I think people need to stop speculating about THIS woman. Honestly, I don't think whatever is going on with this particular woman and her body is the real point. A "Miss" is supposed to represent the country, and be a role model. So while THIS PARTICULAR woman may eat like a horse and not have any eating issues whatsoever, her body does not represent happy and healthy for 99% of the population. She is selected to project an image; this image says "starve" and you will be beautiful. It may be easy for her, but it isn't for most, and so her image being tossed around as the beauty ideal, is damaging. Again, on an individual basis I don't have a problem, per se, with her figure, we are all different. BUT she is very far to one end of the spectrum that for most would be really, really unhealthy, so I don't like the idea of her body being chosen as the most ideal and beautiful.
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bowleserised
04/23/09

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I have a feeling that "some girls who were naturally fat" wouldn't get to the Miss Universe final.
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NefariousNewt
04/23/09

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If there is any further reason needed for the elimination of "beauty" pageants, then let it be the confluence of negative stereotyping, hypersensitivity to body image, and hypocrisy that surrounds this whole melee.
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PersonalBest
04/23/09

In reply to Outraged Aussies Say Miss Universe Contestant Is "Skin And Bones"
Can we just stop with "hipbone is coming to stab me" cracks? Because I'm pretty sure that if we were talking about any other body type the same kind of comment wouldn't fly.

If she is sick, I don't think we shouldn't be making those kinds of remarks at her expense.
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kelsium
04/23/09

@PersonalBest: No one here said that.
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Beat Girl
04/23/09

@kelsium: It was said. It's still there.
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stealthird
04/23/09

In reply to Outraged Aussies Say Miss Universe Contestant Is "Skin And Bones"
Of course there's a Macedonian body type. There's also a Minnesota body type, so how dare anyone criticize me for being short, fat and cornfed. (Is she originally from Macedonia? Because otherwise the "Macedonian body type" is really random. What about an Azerbaijani body type? Or a United Arab Emirates body type? A Falkland Islands body type?)
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Ailatan
04/23/09

@stealthird: Not Falkland Islands! Malvinas Argentinas

I'm joking, of course, this is ridiculously random.
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Brigit
04/23/09

@stealthird: My Puertorrican body type means my boobs are made out of Tres Leches.
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stealthird
04/23/09

@Brigit: That's hot.
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Mary McCarthyite
04/23/09

@stealthird: Other features of a Macedonian body type: we sweats olive oil, our eyeballs are made out of feta cheese and our nipples are like little salty olives.
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Brigit
04/23/09

@Mary McCarthyite: Is it true that Macedonian guys have peens made out of dolmades?
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Mary McCarthyite
04/23/09

@Brigit: Of course! And they ejaculate ouzo.
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Evie Havok
04/23/09

In reply to Outraged Aussies Say Miss Universe Contestant Is "Skin And Bones"
If there's a Macedonian body type is there a Mexican body type, too? How ridiculous would that be if I said that to everyone "Hey, it's okay I have a mexican body type!" Point being, we can't always apply nationality/ethnicity to body type. They all vary.
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ellaesther
04/23/09

In reply to Outraged Aussies Say Miss Universe Contestant Is "Skin And Bones"
To my slender and lithe Jezebelles: I am sorry that there will be so much expressed here that rebounds off you in your natural, healthy states. You are lovely as you are, and I will tell anyone who questions your health to BTFO (back the fuck off).

To my Jezebelles recovering from or struggling with an ED: This post is clearly going to stir a pretty big pot, and stir it like crazy. Be good to yourselves. There's a lot of wisdom from a lot of the women here about how they've faced these issues themselves. Don't hold on to the shit that the pot serves up -- find the good stuff.

To my Jezebelles who carry more on their frames than they wish to carry You are not a number, or a series of numbers, and no one is better or worse than you because they have a different set of numbers to their names.

To all the Jezebelles Let's not fight each other. Let's fight the motherfucking patriarchy who created this shit.
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Ailatan
04/23/09

@ellaesther: thank you, I needed to read something like that.

Sometimes I look at women like this young woman and think "why couldn't I look a bit more like that?" and that's not a positive way of thinking.
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EkaterinaBallerina
04/23/09

@ellaesther: THIS. It was perfectly well-said. As someone who spent her teen years battling an ED and the comments of "You could stand to lose a few pounds" to someone who now gets told "You should eat more", the whole issue of weight and health is a total mindfuck to me.
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hello.kitty
04/23/09

@ellaesther: Jeze-auntie ellaesther spreads pearls of wisdom.
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Samanthrax
04/23/09

@ellaesther: But... but... Marilyn Monroe!!!!

I love this.
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linnyt is a walking cliché
04/23/09

@ellaesther: this needs to go on a lot of posts. well said.
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Evie Havok
04/23/09

@ellaesther: "To all the Jezebelles Let's not fight each other. Let's fight the motherfucking patriarchy who created this shit. "

It's too late for this one. The defensiveness is beginning to appear.
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kelsium
04/23/09

@ellaesther: I adore you with my whole heart.
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taranwanderer
04/23/09

@ellaesther: I wish I could re-heart you a dozen times for this. Brilliant. Thank you.
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ellaesther
04/23/09

@everyone: Man, you guys are the best! Thank you, a whole lot. This stuff breaks my heart.

Also, I just noticed that I said "...the motherfucking patriarchy who..." as if it were a person! An interesting slip that I'll have to think about here at desk ellaesther...!
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lilbobbytables
04/23/09

@ellaesther: I am hugging my computer in lieu of hugging you. Brilliant you are.
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Beat Girl
04/23/09

@ellaesther: You're a wonderful force on this website. I'm glad of your presence all the time. x
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Wit is periodically disensouled
04/23/09

@ellaesther: I think I love you.
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Jello Mix
04/23/09

@ellaesther: Thank you for that.
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Aesop's Foibles. YES.
04/23/09

In reply to Outraged Aussies Say Miss Universe Contestant Is "Skin And Bones"
Oh, God.....all I can say is this: If she's suffering from any kind of eating disorder, I hope she is able to get well. Also, looking at her photo, I notice she doesn't have any visible muscles anywhere, and for whatever reason that in particular makes my heart sad. Like here's this lovely human being, smiling and posing, but looking so weak and fragile. Oh man. I'm sad all over.
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Shamrockette
04/23/09

In reply to Outraged Aussies Say Miss Universe Contestant Is "Skin And Bones"
You know, I would love to believe her that she does eat well and she's healthy. And maybe she's not healthy like she claims, but that's not always because of anorexia. It can be due to thyroid issues, ungodly fast metabolism, sudden growth spurt, etc. Of course anorexia is a possibility, but we can't assume or claim it's that unless she admits it.

With that said, I just hope she keeps an eye on her health. But seeing previous photos of her from a year or so ago makes me a bit worried.

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Shamrockette
04/23/09

@SO I HERD U LIEK MUDKIPZ (formerly Shamrockette): Also, this photo:

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Dottie Gale
04/23/09

@SO I HERD U LIEK MUDKIPZ (formerly Shamrockette): This really does put perspective on it. She is waaayyyy thinner in the pageant picture. Just look at her arms!
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Brigit
04/23/09

@Dottie Gale: She looks a good tens of pounds thinner in the pageant photo, and not as beautiful as in these ones.

Something similar happened to a cousin of mine that has/had a pageant thing. She's beautiful, but when the contest time approached she got excessively skinny.
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Southpaw
04/23/09

@Brigit: Maybe it's a stress thing?
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linnyt is a walking cliché
04/23/09

@SO I HERD U LIEK MUDKIPZ (formerly Shamrockette): wow. the difference is shocking.
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Brigit
04/23/09

@Southpaw: In my cousins case, she does have disordered eating. Thankfully, I haven't seen her go to the point in which I feel I should bitch-slap her parents.
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Brigit
04/23/09

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If there were concrete medical guidelines to participate in the contest these kinds of issues would decrease. I bet there are differences in the metabolites excreted by a healthy thin person and a malnourished one.

*And do I really need to clarify that I'm in no way implying that only thin bodies are healthy? I hope not.*
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femputer
04/23/09

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this is body-snark, get disemvowelled bait!
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southernbelle
04/23/09

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This story kind of hits me the wrong way today because my daughter came home from school yesterday sad because she "looks like a piece of driftwood" and all her friends say she is "too skinny." She's not, although she is smaller than all her classmates. I will say though that she eats like a frickin' hog (and I mean that in the nicest way possible--we all call her "Groceries" because of the sheer amount she can put away). She just has the luck of being made like her father.

So even though this girl looks pretty damn thin, I can definitely sympathize. The thing is nobody knows what she does or does not eat. Hell, I'm a size 12 and I eat healthier than 80% of the people I know (which, being from the South, is not saying a lot).
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katie.scarlett.o'hara
04/23/09

In reply to Outraged Aussies Say Miss Universe Contestant Is "Skin And Bones"
Macedonian body-type, huh? This makes me think of Alexander the Great for some reason.
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hello.kitty
04/23/09

@katie.scarlett.o'hara: Are you saying she looks like a horse?!
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tscheese
04/23/09

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I think it's weird to attribute ones' body shape/type to one's heritage. Average heights do vary depending on where you're from, sure--the average woman in the Netherlands will probably be a bit taller than the average woman in Japan--but peoples' bodies are different all over the globe. I'm willing to bet there are lots and lots of muscular or curvy Macedonians.
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Hana Maru
04/23/09

@tscheese: Totally. The Asian body type the pageant director referenced isn't true, either.
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