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    Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"

    Women Now Permitted To Be Hot And Smart

    NY Times: "Going Rogue Is Part Cagey Spin Job, Part Earnest Autobiography, Part Payback Hit Job"

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    Image of prismatism prismatism
    11/21/09

    In reply to Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"
    How bout a round of applause?
    A standing ovation?

    I'm lame, but seriously, she is so great, and I love her so much.
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    Image of Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
    11/21/09

    In reply to Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"
    Unless the woman is the abuser...I mean, that can happen too. It doesn't have to be so polarizing: Men (Abuser) versus Women (Victim). It's learning that everyone has to have the emotional fortitude to use something besides their fists to rectify a problem. I'm glad that Rihanna's standing up and saying this though. That's just a little bone I have to pick. I've been working with a few teenaged-girls who think nothing of hitting their boyfriends and I've tried to tell them that their behavior is unacceptable and isn't "okay" just because they are girls. Abuse is abuse.
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/21/09

    @Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC: I think she was just commenting on her experience, but I agree with you. Abuse is abuse, regardless of male or female. And we need to raise awareness for all.
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    Image of Andalucía Andalucía
    11/22/09

    @Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC: Do you know how rare DV by women against men is? Incredibly so. When men are actual victims, it's overwhelmingly by other men. Same is true when women are batterers: women are usually also the victims. Besides DV isn't just "violence." It's the act of holding someone hostage.

    Have those boys being hit by those girls tried leaving? Honest question. If they have and the girls refuse to let them go, chasing them down and terrorizing them or threatening to kill themselves, then it's comparable.
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    Image of Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
    11/22/09

    @Andalucía: I wonder if it's incredibly underreported seeing as how humiliating it would be for a man to even mention it because abuse is a "woman thing". And teen relationships thrive on melodrama, so yes (of the kids I've worked with) many a girl has made harrassing phone calls or threatened to "kill herself" if the guy leaves her. But yes, guys do this more than girls, by far. Still, if I reversed your question and said "haven't those girls being hit by boys ever thought of just leaving?", I'm sure I would be reamed. Having a psychological hold on a person is what keeps these abusive relationships in a continuous cycle. There doesn't need to be constant physical restraint to keep a person in line. Abusers thrive on manipulating the minds of those they abuse through damaging their self-esteem and sense of personal power.

    @Ginmar Rienne: Slapping is still abuse. If you put your scenario in the reverse (a man slapping a woman) I don't think you'd be so cavalier). And I'm not trying to equalize things. I'm just mentioning that abuse is a equal opportunity kind of thing. Men abuse men. Women abuse women. Men abuse women. Women abuse men. Men and Women abuse children. Now yes, men in many instances have the physical advantage, but to say that a woman doing the same thing to a man wouldn't be just as emotionally damaging is incorrect. Your comment implies women are somehow weaker and can't really emotionally or physically inflict harm. Incorrect. Or that men who are victims of abuse should stay "closeted" because it really doesn't matter in the "gender power structure". Also incorrect. Abuse is abuse. Putting it in terms of women as victims and men as abusers paints a broad stroke that I'm sure Rihanna didn't intend, but because of my experiences working with teens I've had to address more than once. Keeping one's hands to themselves is an EVERYBODY kind of thing. #tips
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    Image of IBleedGlitter: The High Priestess of Tinsel IBleedGlitter: The High Priestess of Tinsel
    11/21/09

    In reply to Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"
    I officially love her. It's so friggin obvious, but not enough people will come right out and say it.
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11/21/09

    In reply to Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"
    Rock on. Rock the fuck on. I will buy every one of her ensuing albums in support of her kick-assery.
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/21/09

    In reply to Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"
    Rihanna, thank you for saying it. You're getting a standing ovation from me-- right in my living room.

    I had a therapist once tell me that my surviving abuse could make me an example to other women. I told him that I'd rather be an example to would-be abusers, rather than a cautionary tale for potential victims.
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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    11/21/09

    In reply to Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"
    ""Because everyone's focusing on the women, but the problem isn't the women.""

    Finally.
    Somebody said it.
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    Image of rd2uk rd2uk
    11/21/09

    In reply to Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"
    too bad the young man involved doesnt seem to have learned fuck-all...

    but yes, agree with her 100%, the women are not the problem in this equation!
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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    11/16/09

    In reply to Women Now Permitted To Be Hot And Smart
    Well ... at the risk of sounding quite the wet blanket, how soon does "permitted to be" move to "required to be"? #fashion
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    Image of PilgrimSoul PilgrimSoul
    11/16/09

    @Rooo sez BISH PLZ: shh, fashion is smart. #fashion
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    Image of Pandorasvoicebox Pandorasvoicebox
    11/16/09

    @Rooo sez BISH PLZ: Effortless perfection...don't get me started. #fashion
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    Image of bluebears bluebears
    11/16/09

    @Rooo sez BISH PLZ: This comment just made my day. #fashion
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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    11/16/09

    @Pandorasvoicebox: Are you a Duke graduate? The day I saw those two words juxtaposed like that in the context of raised "be all you can be" expectations for womens' "performance" was the day I truly began to despair for Western humanity, I think.

    @PilgrimSoul: Silly me. How could I have forgotten. Excuse me while I self-flagellate.
    (You know, my g-ma was an exquisite seamstress. She made clothes that fit and were beautiful (I still have, and wear, a blouse she made for herself, though I'm not sure how she'd feel about that as she used to make fun of me b/c I was a fat kid and I think she'd be quite ambivalent that I've leaned out to her size -- especially with five inches on her in height. Oh well, I guess she'd win 'cause that'd still make her "petiter" than me.). But I can't help but think there's still a difference between that and the bloviated beast that encompasses the concept of "modern fashion" that women are supposed to live up to now.)

    Oh dear ... a book. #fashion
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    11/16/09

    @bluebears: Happy to be of service.
    *blushes* *curtsies* #fashion
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    Image of Bitingpika Bitingpika
    11/16/09

    @Pandorasvoicebox: Effortless and nonthreatening. #fashion
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    Image of Pandorasvoicebox Pandorasvoicebox
    11/17/09

    @Rooo sez BISH PLZ: Hah, I am in fact a Dukie. #fashion
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    11/17/09

    @Pandorasvoicebox: My degrees aren't from there, but some of my (best ) friends are (hee), andI read all those articles. Perhaps a word with those lady administrators who were quoted. *shudders* #fashion
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    11/16/09

    In reply to Women Now Permitted To Be Hot And Smart
    Oh thank God *spits out false yokel teeth and takes fake wart off nose* I was so tired of having to choose! #fashion
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11/16/09

    In reply to Women Now Permitted To Be Hot And Smart
    I am concerned about the First Lady's breasts in that picture, due to belt placement. If I had a thick leather belt across that area of my body, I would not be looking very happy. #fashion
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    Image of SomeAuthorGirl SomeAuthorGirl
    11/16/09

    In reply to Women Now Permitted To Be Hot And Smart
    When do I get permission to to not wonder if I'm a) betraying the feminist ideal or b) betraying my femininity? I'd take either one, but both would be great. #fashion
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    Image of funzette funzette
    11/16/09

    In reply to Women Now Permitted To Be Hot And Smart
    Permitted: Hot, Smart, Fashionable, Thin
    Forbidden: Fat, Assertive, Awkward, Ugly
    Borderline: Funny (Laughing at jokes made by others = permissible, Making own jokes = questionable) #fashion
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    Image of Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny. Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
    11/16/09

    @funzette: YES!!!!!! I love you. I love you. I love you. Apparently women can be smart and hot, but smart and ugly, that's a no-no. #fashion
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    Image of Grim Reaper of the Forest Grim Reaper of the Forest
    11/16/09

    In reply to Women Now Permitted To Be Hot And Smart
    Telling women it is okay to be into fashion? Wow, I've never heard that message before. #fashion
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    Image of PilgrimSoul PilgrimSoul
    11/16/09

    In reply to Women Now Permitted To Be Hot And Smart
    Well, heh. I still think that if your sole focus is clothes, and if it dominates your daily life, you might be shallow. But it depends somewhat on whether you dress for labels, etc.

    In other words, obsession with labels? Definitionally shallow. #fashion
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    Image of bluebears bluebears
    11/16/09

    @PilgrimSoul: how dare you judge me! That's how I empower myself as a woman!!! #fashion
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    Image of Waterlily Waterlily
    11/16/09

    In reply to Women Now Permitted To Be Hot And Smart
    I am well and truly sick and tired of the dismissal of an interest in clothing or fashion as an indicator of shallowness, fiscal incontinence, or stupidity.

    A large part of that dismissal, IMO, as to do with the fact that clothes are seen as a 'female' domain. I've never heard similar criticisms being levelled against men and their video game/PlayStation/other electronic habits, all of which are arguably as expensive as clothing and as likely to become obsolete (and unlike clothes, have no value as 'vintage' and aren't essential to, erm, covering nudity). #fashion
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