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While a case for Obama could be made in the second category, those that have been awarded for ongoing work have traditionally been those that lack the international profile to accomplish such deeds themselves; the prize money and the platform that the award provides can have a transformative effect for such causes.
The President of the United States, no matter who that person is, does not need such a platform. [Note: TR and Wilson's Nobels, it can be argued, were for the first category, and so are exempt from this.]
This trend towards this sort of expansion of the award's criteria started with Gore's 1997 Nobel, but today changes it entirely.
So yeah, I'm okay with it -- I just think there are many other individuals (my vote would have gone to Tsvangirai, for what it's worth) whose work could have used both the funding and the spotlight.
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I understand how he has changed the international political atmosphere and made things more peaceable between the US and western europe, but he doesn't seem as concerned with ending the war(s) as he did during the election. I think bringing wars to their ends is just about the most peaceable thing a world leader can do. I, for one, would wait for any indication that this actually what he plans to do, before lavishing awards and peace prizes on him.
It seems kind of contradictory to receive a peace prize one day and then deliver a speech asking for further troop deployment the next.
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And if that really IS the case, if everyone agrees that the Nobel is something that can be used pre-emptively, then I think its time to stop paying attention to the Nobel Peace Prize.
I'm absolutely furious at Obama for even accepting this award. I was so sure he wasn't going to -- nobody is that self-deluded, are they? Well, Barrack seems to be.
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Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations.
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My main problem, then, is with the freaking Nobel committee. How much do you have to have your head in the sand to believe that this could actually be GOOD for Obama? That giving him this prize would help him achieve his FP goals? Its making him look like a fool in the States, because its just reinforcing the suspicions we've all had about the man (all hype and no action!), especially since he has very few real accomplishments to point to, in the few months he has been president.
Why couldn't those morons have told Obama about the prize in private first, so as to give him a chance to accept or decline without a political fallout? They fucking did it for John Nash (according to A Beautiful Mind).
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I stand in awe of people who think Obama does not deserve this award. He inherited a shitstorm of a mess. You think he owns a damned magic wand to pass over everything and make it all better? "Oh, he didn’t do this or that or this and OMG we’re still at war!"
It’s been ten months. I bet every day he sits back, releases a good, long swear and thinks, "We need bigger shovels to shovel away all the shit."
I am clapping for Obama.
There, that’s much better!
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[mediamatters.org]
Beck is going bonkers.
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We already spend more on defense than every other nation in the world combined. We can't have fucking health care, but we can have endless undeclared war?
The peace prize is a joke. See: Kissinger, Henry.
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The Audacity of Hope has been kind of timid. To review:
He hasn't closed Guantanamo yet.
Still operating black sites.
Defended DOMA.
Hasn't opened the way for torture prosecutions.
Healthcare Reform hasn't happened yet.
He's not Nobel Peace Prize worthy quite yet. In fact, I'd like to hear why he IS. Or is he merely benefiting from the low expectations that come from following up the worst U.S. president of ALL time?
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One of those.
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I think the prize should be awarded for unabashedly peaceful efforts, and then there won't be as much of a consensus problem.
Also, I'm a realist prick who thinks an award will amount to bullshit in terms of foreign policy, so give it to some guy in the Bangladesh who gave up his life to innocculate kids or something. This is why boxing has weight classes.
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So this isn't that unusual.
Other than that, what NefariousNewt said in the other thread.
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but I'm also insulted at the dumbass conservatives on my Facebook feed who are like "HEY NOW I CAN WIN THE NOBEL PRIZE TOO HUH HUH HUH!"
Uh, no, asshole... last time I checked, you hadn't accomplished nearly one-tenth of what Obama has in his life. Whether he "really deserves this honor" may be debatable, but the fact that his accomplishments have surpassed that of some entitled 17-year-old brat is not.
The arrogance of this crap just astounds me.
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Omigod, I didn't know it existed. You seriously just made my day. I was already loving, stfumarrieds, parents, and believers...but this, this is nirvana! lol
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Well he may not have quantifiably accomplished anything YET... but he sure as hell hasn't started 2 wars either.
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