@Hiroine Protagonist: I'm pretty sure there's a "women + guns" Google search they run around here like twice a week for no particular purpose. Like, are they trying to provoke a debate, or what? #ussnewyork
@BearDownCBears: That is absolutely not what I was getting at. I was referring to the cycle of violence continuing with Trade Centre steel being forged into a bloody warship. #ussnewyork
The sight of the ponytail/bun in this photo got me thinking: What's the story with female soldiers being allowed to have long hair? (Or, conversely, what's the deal with male soldiers being forced to have short hair?) I understand that women are held to different physical standards, but it seems like the crew cut could be mandatory regardless of gender. I wonder why it's not? #ussnewyork
@Kivrin: I don't know the "story" is, but I'd guess it's simply tougher to recruit women if they are told they have to lop off their hair. Women are, however, expected to keep their hair tidy and out of their faces. There are strict regulations on the hairstyles they are allowed to keep, just as men have certain measurements they have maintain on their heads. Honestly long hair is easier to maintain in the military, IMO. I've had short and long, and short is tough because shit gets in it, and you have to brush it out of your eyes. Buns are easy to maintain, and enough Rave hairsprays will protect your head from bullets. (Kidding. Sort of.)
@Kivrin: Former Marine here: Men are required to have short hair because of sanitary reasons during combat. Women are not allowed to fight in combat (tho' we have/do).
We are required to have our hair in a knot or cut short enough to not touch our collars. I GIJaned it and went with a buzz. I looked like the Fresh Prince. Not. cute. #ussnewyork
@marciax3: Ah, okay, the "sanitary reasons" makes sense—easier to clean a head wound when the hair around it is already clipped. It will be interesting to see whether the requirement for women's hair changes if/when they are "officially" allowed in combat (as they should be).
@Kivrin: Trust me when I say that the women with balls (or ovaries) enough to join the Corps could give two shits about having a high and tight.
That said, the sanitary issues have more to do with lice, dirt, sweat and other things long hair isn't compatible with. You got be able to go on the fly. #ussnewyork
@GirlFailer: Hey, I was prideful. You don't know how much juice being a Marine gets me on a daily basis;-) The dudes I work with are all cowed. teehee. #ussnewyork
@marciax3: Yeah, that's what made me wonder: Seems like the women who join the military wouldn't give a crap about shaving their heads! And that makes sense re: lice and stuff—you can tell I approach things from a medical perspective, with my concern over head wounds. :-P #ussnewyork
@GirlFailer: Oh, the RAVE clouds I had to navigate in the barracks. I'm having flashbacks. And stepping on the whitegirls' bobbypins! Oh lawd! #ussnewyork
@marciax3: You really think so? I think that being told that you would have to cut your hair off would turn away some potential recruits. I view the hair regulations as more of a conformation thing. Men keep high and tights women keep buns or braids.
As far as the sanitary issues, I also had long hair, and knew several other female Marines that kept their hair long, and lice and sweat were never issues. In theater if you had a bun it stayed in unless you were showering; you even wore it too bed, so you were ready at any time. Just a different opinion of hair in the military. #ussnewyork
@GirlFailer: I guess the conformity thing is a part of it also, but the bill of goods I was sold suggested creepy crawlies were the reason.
I think if the potential female recruits were signing up for combat, not just service, that would've already discouraged the fainthearted and coif conscious. You know what I mean?
I kept a bun for a couple of years, shaved it off after arguing with a gunny about why the black WMs couldn't get braids, then had a HUGE as afro that I couldn't get my cover on. Ah, the many stylings of Corporal X3.
@marciax3: I totally see what you are saying about the fact that if you are in it for more than a job, the haircut shouldn't matter. I think that the armed forces just care about their numbers, sadly.
I swear to God, every unit has one person who bitches about the fact that the women of color could have more than one braid, but the white females couldn't. Every. Unit. #ussnewyork
@GirlFailer: When I was in, we couldn't. I fought tooth and nail.
I guess I won! Yay!
That reminds me of all the girls who complain that the muslim students can wear a scarf, but they can't wear a beret or a kerchief. Straight up Dog in the Manger. If the white servicewomen want to trade hair with a black woman to get that privilege, line up... #ussnewyork
@marciax3: Hey! 3 big braids, or as many teeny braids as you can fit on the noggin, now! Good job!
The poor, blond woman in our unit never got the chance to wear her hair in anything but a single french braid. She never could wear her hair in 3 large braids after all. The injustice of it all. heh. #ussnewyork
@GirlFailer: I have a sneaking suspicion that portions of the armed forces still have some silly notions about female soldiers being ladylike and dainty. There may even be creepier stuff pertaining to some of Paul's wackier ideas in the New Testament about women needing to wear their hair long.
@Kivrin: Hey, women who join the military still like to look feminine once in a while. I don't have the bone structure to pull a Natalie Portman post V for Vendetta look. #ussnewyork
@Adah: There are plenty of military guys who don't have the bone structure for a crew cut, either, but they don't have a choice. I was curious as to why women were given more leeway on a standard that seems like it could be easily enforced regardless of gender.
@Kivrin: I was replying to your comment where you said it seems like women who joined the military wouldn't give a crap about shaving their heads. #ussnewyork
@Kivrin: I've been in the military for six years, and I would be extremely upset if I was told I had to shave my head. Most women who are in the military are not radicals -- they join the military for financial reasons, or because of patriotism, or because they want to travel, or for a wide variety of other reasons -- but none of that means that they necessarily want to give up their femininity. Even hardcore tomboys who join the military often find themselves becoming more feminine as they assert that they are in fact women. #ussnewyork
@Adah: Ah, I see. I made that assumption because if I, as a woman, were going to join the military, I would probably want to shave my head just to remove another distinction between myself and the males in the service—whether I had the bone structure for it or not. I apologize for assuming that other women would feel the same way.
But yeah, I'll go ahead and say, I think it's unfair that women are allowed more freedom in their hairstyle. If a braid is acceptable on a woman, then a man in a non-combat position should be able to keep his hair long and braid it. The hairstyle thing just seems like such a bullshit area in which to create division; why not apply the same standard to everyone? #ussnewyork
@Kivrin: Forcing both men and women to get crew cuts is not equality, because American society doesn't regard crew-cut men and women in the same way. Men with crew cuts look conservative and masculine; similarly, women are required to wear their hair in a conservative, relatively feminine style. #ussnewyork
@Marya: I understand that, I really do. I'm just concerned that this allowance that is granted for women—i.e., having options about how to wear one's hair—could create unnecessary gender-based divisions. If I were a guy who wanted to have a different hairstyle, I would resent the fact that I had to maintain a crew cut while women could wear their hair long. Given the fact that many male soldiers already resent the different physical/strength standards for women, the hair thing seems like an unnecessary bit of divisiveness. But I'm not in the military, so it is entirely possible (probable!) that I just don't get it! #ussnewyork
@Marya: I actually don't think women should be required to get crew-cuts; I just think that men should be allowed to wear their hair longer, too. More freedom for everyone. But again, I'm not in the military, and there are things about that system that I will just never understand. And that's okay. #ussnewyork
@Kivrin: Which male soldiers are you talking to, by the way? There's plenty of variations in capabilities that have nothing to do with age, but do have to do with age and weight, something that affects us all. They're not making fifty-year-old Master SGTs. pass the eighteen-year-old male PT test, does that bother you, too?
The men in the military have more important things to worry about, for the most part. #ussnewyork
@Kivrin: Guys who get bent out of shape about womens' hair and womens' alleged physical weaknesses aren't worth wasting time on, anyway. Those are code phrases that hide an awful lot of experience.
@Ginmar Rienne: What are code phrases—the male complaints I made reference to? If so, I have NO doubt that many male service members are sexist. That's one of the main reasons why I was contemplating the idea of giving 'em one less thing (i.e., gender-specific hair reqs) to gripe about. But y'know what, I'm sure they'd find some other bullshit reason to disguise their sexism, so it's probably a moot point! Thanks for weighing in with your experience.
@Kivrin: Personally, I would have no problem with long-haired or bearded male soldiers, but I can't see the (male-dominated) chain of command approving anything like that anytime soon. Honestly I think it has more to do with what they think looks appropriate than with hygiene/safety concerns. #ussnewyork
@lilbobbytables: The yellow thing in the background? It's just the dock hitch that the ship is tied to while it's moored. See the ropes around it? #ussnewyork
I was walking across 46th street a few weeks ago and I saw a woman wearing two black garbage bags tied together for clothing. It's probably the worst thing I've seen since moving here. I felt so horrible, I still get shaken up thinking about it.
Bloomberg has done some good things for the city, but I'm also pretty dissappointed in a lot of things he's done. He's basically made it a corporate haven, pushing out a lot of smaller independent businesses. I think it would be an interesting point to know if the rise in homelessness is due more specifically to Bloombergs policies or if its due to the economic crash in general. #newyorkhomelessness
It always breaks my heart to see so many homeless as the weather gets colder.
NPR was talking about homelessness the other day (maybe it was All Things Considered?) and said something about how Boston has some policy where they never turn away homeless in need of shelter -- even if it means housing people in motels. Does anyone know if NY has something similar? #newyorkhomelessness
New York City Shelters are at 100% capacity this year and it's already October. The city has also cut funding for all of the women's shelters in New York. It's absolutely terrible.
I am working on an outreach project that will reach over 1,200 homeless persons this January and this year it is specifically our mission to reach out to the female homeless population. If any of you are interested in volunteering with us, please let me know.
I would be curious to know how much of that 45% rise during Bloomberg's reign was in the last few years with the housing market crash, etc. How much of it is his decisions & how much just the state of the economy today? #newyorkhomelessness
My annoying coworker who has a massive superiority complex was telling a group of us at the office recently how she was in NYC and saw a homeless guy sit up on park bench to answer his cell phone, with the attitude that "How bad can it be if he has a cell phone/where are his priorities?" I pointed out that a lot of formerly middle class are now living in their cars, but may still have cell phones for job-searching. Or maybe he either found it or stole it. Everyone acted like I was a major buzzkill for not laughing along and saying "Can you imagine? A homeless man with a cell phone!" like they did. Sometimes I weep for the future. #newyorkhomelessness
Homelessness is so scary, I always get the feeling that these men and women (sometimes with children) are a step closer to insanity, living in a hostile environment and dealing with life on the streets is enough to send one over the edge.
I hope the economy crisis is resolved sooner other than later, so less people are forced to live on the streets. #newyorkhomelessness
For those who have yet to see it, Paris is Burning is available on YouTube. And yes, it is as fabulous as you have heard. Seeing it for the first time makes so much pop culture from the past two decades click into place.
@HeatherNumber1: Agreed. I had an awesome professor in college who introduced our class to it. Turns out a few former students of his had been involved in its heyday.
Very interesting, very well done. Totally worth watching. #voguing
Did anyone see [Randy Jackson Presents] America's Best Dance Crew? There was a crew on there that was made up of guys and a transgender girl from the underground new york vogue scene. They were called vogue Evolution and they were AWESOME. #voguing
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We are required to have our hair in a knot or cut short enough to not touch our collars. I GIJaned it and went with a buzz. I looked like the Fresh Prince. Not. cute. #ussnewyork
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That said, the sanitary issues have more to do with lice, dirt, sweat and other things long hair isn't compatible with. You got be able to go on the fly. #ussnewyork
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As far as the sanitary issues, I also had long hair, and knew several other female Marines that kept their hair long, and lice and sweat were never issues. In theater if you had a bun it stayed in unless you were showering; you even wore it too bed, so you were ready at any time. Just a different opinion of hair in the military. #ussnewyork
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I think if the potential female recruits were signing up for combat, not just service, that would've already discouraged the fainthearted and coif conscious. You know what I mean?
I kept a bun for a couple of years, shaved it off after arguing with a gunny about why the black WMs couldn't get braids, then had a HUGE as afro that I couldn't get my cover on. Ah, the many stylings of Corporal X3.
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I swear to God, every unit has one person who bitches about the fact that the women of color could have more than one braid, but the white females couldn't. Every. Unit. #ussnewyork
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I guess I won! Yay!
That reminds me of all the girls who complain that the muslim students can wear a scarf, but they can't wear a beret or a kerchief. Straight up Dog in the Manger. If the white servicewomen want to trade hair with a black woman to get that privilege, line up... #ussnewyork
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The poor, blond woman in our unit never got the chance to wear her hair in anything but a single french braid. She never could wear her hair in 3 large braids after all. The injustice of it all. heh. #ussnewyork
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But yeah, I'll go ahead and say, I think it's unfair that women are allowed more freedom in their hairstyle. If a braid is acceptable on a woman, then a man in a non-combat position should be able to keep his hair long and braid it. The hairstyle thing just seems like such a bullshit area in which to create division; why not apply the same standard to everyone? #ussnewyork
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The men in the military have more important things to worry about, for the most part. #ussnewyork
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Bloomberg has done some good things for the city, but I'm also pretty dissappointed in a lot of things he's done. He's basically made it a corporate haven, pushing out a lot of smaller independent businesses. I think it would be an interesting point to know if the rise in homelessness is due more specifically to Bloombergs policies or if its due to the economic crash in general. #newyorkhomelessness
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NPR was talking about homelessness the other day (maybe it was All Things Considered?) and said something about how Boston has some policy where they never turn away homeless in need of shelter -- even if it means housing people in motels. Does anyone know if NY has something similar? #newyorkhomelessness
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I am working on an outreach project that will reach over 1,200 homeless persons this January and this year it is specifically our mission to reach out to the female homeless population. If any of you are interested in volunteering with us, please let me know.
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I hope the economy crisis is resolved sooner other than later, so less people are forced to live on the streets. #newyorkhomelessness
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