My current boyfriend is not really into the net so isn't on any social site. But I've "stalked" other ex's exes. I've gone to their pages and looked (this was in the day of myspace.)
When I was a younger woman, before the internet, I'd brush off my current's worries about a guy friend. But now I'm more respectful of my "mate."
How important is any relationship with a single male other than my boyfriend? Not very.
I think that it's important to talk about these kinds of things before you start to date.
I have friends of many sexes. I won't stop being friends with them because my partner is uncomfortable. That is controlling. If it's a safety issue, or a moral-opposition issue, that's one thing, but if it's "this person is the opposite sex," then no, that is not acceptable to me.
I am friends with my exes. And I will continue to be. I expect my current partner to be mature enough to be at least cordial and polite to them. S/he doesn't have to like them, but they are my friends, and despite having a romantic history, we are not dating, we don't want to date, and that's that. I don't want my partner controlling who I am friends with.
I disclose this kind of information (and other important, personal things) before I date someone. If they think it's a problem, no hard feelings, but I won't date you, because we will fight about it all the time and I won't like that. This works for me. It may not work for everyone.
My rule is this: I will tell you more or less anything I think is important before we begin dating and we will do our best to set boundaries that we are both comfortable with. Obviously, you can't predict everything, but you can set up basic rules, like "I don't like it when you call your friends 'sweetie', because that's what you call me," or something like that. If my partner was fine with my situation before we were dating, they should be fine with it after. Barring, of course, active sexual relationships that would be outside the boundaries of the relationship that we began.
Social networking and the Internet has made it just that much easier to cheat. Twenty years ago, if someone felt like getting an easy thrill at 2 a.m. without their spouse's knowledge, they had to control their urges and admit it wasn't going to happen. Now, all they have to do is sneak out of bed and get on the Internet.
I've lived a rough life that's seemed longer than the actual years and known a whole lot of people. Even so, it's surprised me sometimes how so many acquaintences who I thought of as the highest caliber were willing to mess around if the opportunity were thrust in front of their faces. This opportunity often presented itself in that pesky ex who kept looking them up via Facebook, MySpace, e-mail, etc.
Because of this knowledge, I do not make contact with men for socializing purposes on the Internet. My husband has never asked this of me; I avoid it on my own accord. I know I'd never cheat, but I've been in circumstances before where the feelings of the other person can get intense, even though I only want to be friends. It's so much easier to just cut that out completely, trust! And I don't feel I'm missing out on a thing. It actually feels very good.
I've also never directly asked my husband to do the same, but he knows my feelings and whether he does or not is up to him. He does know how drama-and-bullshit-free my life is without these socializations, and I do hope he's taking my example! But I respect his privacy enough not to snoop or question him about it.
Someone needs to tell Facebook that when you un-friend someone, you don't want them to HAVE THE ABILITY TO go and add you again the next day.
I made a distinct and deliberate choice to EXCLUDE a person from my "network." Why is it they can even contact me?
If I were female, I think I'd consider initiating a class-action suit. And no, if you're wondering, it wasn't an ex-GF, it's another dude, who I now think is a royal dick.
@Jack_Burton: You can block a person so that it appears to them that you are no longer on facebook. Its easy. At least the last time I tried to do it it was east.
Jealousy is one of the least attractive qualities imaginable. If you can't trust the person you're with, why stay with them? And even if you survive an indiscretion, keeping someone under lock and key (in real life or online) is not the way to maintain a lasting relationship.
My boyfriend un-friended his ex on Facebook after they broke up. Over the last year, she has made several attempts to re-friend him, often accompanied by messages suggesting things like he and I having a drink with her and her boyfriend. He has continued to decline them. The most recent one, he asked me whether or not he should accept it, and I'll admit, the fact that she made a point to tell him that she was now single made me tell him "no no a thousand times NO."
@CollegeCamel: My BF's ex girlfriend from like six years ago never stopped being obsessed with him. Every few months she will text him or send a facebook message suggesting that they get together the next time he's in Miami. He says that he hasn't responded to her in years.
Also, they only dated for six months.
Some people just get hung up on other people, for one reason or another. It's not your boyfriend's fault, and it's not my boyfriend's fault. It's still annoying, though.
The internet has provided a whole new way for relationships to go wrong and be ruined. Have I friended guys who are in relationships ( not married), in the hope that they will someday contact me? yes. Could this lead to cheating? Maybe. In fact, I fooled around with a guy who I met at a concert, got to know only through emails (unaware that he LIVED with his girlfriend), and I could tell from the way it ended that it ended because she did some cyber-snooping.
I understand people's feeling a need for new rules here. Not sure anything, other than picking the right person to begin with, will help.
My father, after 22 years of marriage, started chatting with his high school sweetheart when "classmates" started up. He ended up leaving my mom for her by calling from a "business trip" where he met up with this woman and told my mom he would not be returning home. So I have some sensitivity to online "friends" and my husband is very aware and understanding of this. He knows I trust him but he also tells me when someone new friends him on facebook, male or female, just to keep me in the loop. If you can find someone who understands your sensitivities like this, I think each couple can come up with their own set of rules so that the rules don't rule their lives.
@koos94: You know what? My dad tracked down some chick he banged a couple times in high school and left my step mom of 9 years for him. I totally get where you're coming from on that one.
@koos94: A perfect example of my point. Before the internet is was practically impossible to try out a flirtation and really develop something in absolute secrecy that could threaten a relationship
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: I understand both your point and koos94's. However, personal responsibility does not fly out the window just because you're on the internet.
Cheating is cheating is cheating, and if people won't do it through the internet, they will find some other way. If certain online contacts make a a person uncomfortable, granted, their partner should make some compromises and try not to hurt them. However, it is more important to be able to trust your partner, and have them excercise self-control.
Without trust, communication, and self-control, a relationship is doomed anyway.
@roxythekiller: Oh I totally agree with you (see my below posts) but I will acknowledge that it happens. I don't really understand running away with your high school love, though. Those things are wonderful because you don't have to live together and usually they flame out before anything too hurtful happens.
OK - what about this: My ex (five years and a proposal but, no - twenty years ago) friended my sister but not me. He's happily married with 2 daughters and it hurt my feelings a bit. Overreacting?
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Well thanks for that - I can be overly sensitive! We were cool. His wife may not be. She also may not be aware he crushed on my little sis.
I will admit it, I turned into psycho-net stalker girl with a boyfriend once. Problem was, I was right the first time I suspected something and confirmed it that way, which in my head made me feel justified for doing it, and then made me paranoid and insane and unable to stop it.
I very quickly realized I did not like the person this was making me, and that the relationship needed to end
@colormeroutine: My previous relationship was like that too. Every time I snooped, I found something. Usually something huge (this engagement did not end well, lets just say).
So with current bf, snooping is 100% off limits because a) i trust him, and b) it makes me into a crazy person.
@spunkay: It's seriously, addictive. At one point I actually asked him to please change his password so I just COULDN'T snoop anymore and he would not. He was just like "well I don't care if you look, I won't ever do anything for you to find out about again. Just don't look if you don't want to" point 1: he totally did and point 2: it became a compulusive habit I just could. not. break. Seriously I quit smoking no problem, but that had me
@rixatrix: That's kind of what I'm thinking. Like, if you care about each other and want to be together shouldn't you just be able to TRUST each other?
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When I was a younger woman, before the internet, I'd brush off my current's worries about a guy friend. But now I'm more respectful of my "mate."
How important is any relationship with a single male other than my boyfriend? Not very.
So far, no exes have contacted me.
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I have friends of many sexes. I won't stop being friends with them because my partner is uncomfortable. That is controlling. If it's a safety issue, or a moral-opposition issue, that's one thing, but if it's "this person is the opposite sex," then no, that is not acceptable to me.
I am friends with my exes. And I will continue to be. I expect my current partner to be mature enough to be at least cordial and polite to them. S/he doesn't have to like them, but they are my friends, and despite having a romantic history, we are not dating, we don't want to date, and that's that. I don't want my partner controlling who I am friends with.
I disclose this kind of information (and other important, personal things) before I date someone. If they think it's a problem, no hard feelings, but I won't date you, because we will fight about it all the time and I won't like that. This works for me. It may not work for everyone.
My rule is this: I will tell you more or less anything I think is important before we begin dating and we will do our best to set boundaries that we are both comfortable with. Obviously, you can't predict everything, but you can set up basic rules, like "I don't like it when you call your friends 'sweetie', because that's what you call me," or something like that. If my partner was fine with my situation before we were dating, they should be fine with it after. Barring, of course, active sexual relationships that would be outside the boundaries of the relationship that we began.
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But working out some ground rules isn't a bad idea. It just seems like a way to prevent drama.
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I've lived a rough life that's seemed longer than the actual years and known a whole lot of people. Even so, it's surprised me sometimes how so many acquaintences who I thought of as the highest caliber were willing to mess around if the opportunity were thrust in front of their faces. This opportunity often presented itself in that pesky ex who kept looking them up via Facebook, MySpace, e-mail, etc.
Because of this knowledge, I do not make contact with men for socializing purposes on the Internet. My husband has never asked this of me; I avoid it on my own accord. I know I'd never cheat, but I've been in circumstances before where the feelings of the other person can get intense, even though I only want to be friends. It's so much easier to just cut that out completely, trust! And I don't feel I'm missing out on a thing. It actually feels very good.
I've also never directly asked my husband to do the same, but he knows my feelings and whether he does or not is up to him. He does know how drama-and-bullshit-free my life is without these socializations, and I do hope he's taking my example! But I respect his privacy enough not to snoop or question him about it.
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Why drag up the past?
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I made a distinct and deliberate choice to EXCLUDE a person from my "network." Why is it they can even contact me?
If I were female, I think I'd consider initiating a class-action suit. And no, if you're wondering, it wasn't an ex-GF, it's another dude, who I now think is a royal dick.
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This would NEVER fly.
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Also, they only dated for six months.
Some people just get hung up on other people, for one reason or another. It's not your boyfriend's fault, and it's not my boyfriend's fault. It's still annoying, though.
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I understand people's feeling a need for new rules here. Not sure anything, other than picking the right person to begin with, will help.
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Cheating is cheating is cheating, and if people won't do it through the internet, they will find some other way. If certain online contacts make a a person uncomfortable, granted, their partner should make some compromises and try not to hurt them. However, it is more important to be able to trust your partner, and have them excercise self-control.
Without trust, communication, and self-control, a relationship is doomed anyway.
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I very quickly realized I did not like the person this was making me, and that the relationship needed to end
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So with current bf, snooping is 100% off limits because a) i trust him, and b) it makes me into a crazy person.
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