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    Harassment's No Big Deal, Says Egypt's Council For Women Spokesman
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    Image of Slovenly Muse Slovenly Muse
    06/23/09

    In reply to Harassment's No Big Deal, Says Egypt's Council For Women Spokesman
    If your attitude towards sexual harassment is "[your country's] men always respect [your country's] women," then you really should not be the leader of that country's National Council for Women.


    I don't care which country you apply it to, it's just a stupid thing to say.

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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    06/23/09

    In reply to Harassment's No Big Deal, Says Egypt's Council For Women Spokesman
    So, I guess Sarkozy has a point, then?
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    Image of Katxyz Katxyz
    06/23/09

    @Diziet_Sma:


    Which is what?

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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    06/23/09

    @Katxyz: That the burqa is: "a sign of the subjugation, of the submission of women." I commented a lot in the post about it yesterday: [jezebel.com]
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    Image of Katxyz Katxyz
    06/23/09

    @Diziet_Sma:


    I know, but how does one prove the other? I've been catcalled in jeans and a t-shirt and while jogging. Are those now signs of by subjugation?

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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    06/24/09

    @Katxyz: If you know, then why did you ask? I'm not getting into it all over again so soon after yesterday - all my opinions are in that post, along with a link to an article that answers your question above.
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    Image of Eric Northman is mine Eric Northman is mine
    06/23/09

    In reply to Harassment's No Big Deal, Says Egypt's Council For Women Spokesman
    Such harassment contrasts with emerging signs of female political advancement in Egypt and other countries across the Middle East.


    Actually it would make sense that female advancement would lead to more harassment particularly if the patriarchal structure is threatened or forced to adapt. Those who are not happy with these changes may harass (in this case public verbal insults, groping and even rape) to assert authority/dominance or express their frustration with the changes that are taking place.

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    Image of CherriSpryte CherriSpryte
    06/23/09

    In reply to Harassment's No Big Deal, Says Egypt's Council For Women Spokesman
    Ugh. I have a (former) friend going to Egypt in a few months for vacation and she REFUSES to believe that this will be a problem. Perhaps she should join the Egyptian National Council for Women.
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    Image of queenjulie queenjulie
    06/23/09

    @CherriSpryte: According to my friend (from my comment above), if she can learn to yell "Get your hands off me!" in fluent Arabic, it will be a big help.
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    Image of Jenloveshercurves Jenloveshercurves
    06/23/09

    @queenjulie: You should learn to say that in any language when you are in a foreign country. I believe that men in other countries always see American women as over-sexed and hate our freedom and power. I had to learn it in Italy. Italian men thought that it was appropriate to grab me constantly in public. I found that elbowing them in the side and yelling, "Don't touch me, you bastard!" worked pretty damn well.
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    Image of A_Gracious_Plenty A_Gracious_Plenty
    06/23/09

    In reply to Harassment's No Big Deal, Says Egypt's Council For Women Spokesman
    I don't care if it's NY, Cairo, or Beijing KEEP YOUR DAMN HANDS TO YOURSELF.
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    Image of shorty63136 shorty63136
    06/23/09

    @A_Gracious_Plenty: Exactly. I thought everybody learned this in Kindergarten.
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    06/23/09

    In reply to Harassment's No Big Deal, Says Egypt's Council For Women Spokesman
    . . . which proves that covering up does not prevent a woman from being perceived as a sexual object by men. In fact, the contrary appears to be true.
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    Image of tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
    06/23/09

    In reply to Harassment's No Big Deal, Says Egypt's Council For Women Spokesman
    Oh, I forgot that common occurrence = issue not a crime.
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