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    Nancy Drew Comparisons Still Stalk Sotomayor

    Nancy Drew, Sonia Sotomayor, & Feminism: Questions For Chelsea Cain

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    Image of zombie.nancy is a godess of fierce zombie.nancy is a godess of fierce
    07/13/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew Comparisons Still Stalk Sotomayor
    obvsly she will turn to a tried and true method when contemplating rulings on civil liberties : the magic 8 ball.
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    07/13/09

    @zombie.nancy is a godess of fierce: You can preview said rulings here: http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi. Why do we need a Supreme Court at all, we should just have nine of these.
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    07/13/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew Comparisons Still Stalk Sotomayor
    Does she have a friend who is always five pounds overweight and another friend who is a total lesbo?
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    07/13/09

    @morninggloria: Ah, the "boyish and slim" George. And the blonde and plump Bess. Maybe the best entourage any girl detective has ever had.



    Don't even get me started on Ned!
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    07/13/09

    @JLady: don't forget the convertible. the modern chariot for a discerning girl sleuth.
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    Image of Dodgergirl Dodgergirl
    07/13/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew Comparisons Still Stalk Sotomayor
    Alright so:

    abortion= the secret of the old clock,

    free speech= the strange message in the old parchment,

    search and seizure= the hidden staircase,

    reverse discrimination= the triple hoax.



    No, that totally works. And her appointment to the Supreme Court is like a Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys Super mystery!
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    07/13/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew Comparisons Still Stalk Sotomayor
    I'm equally curious if Durbin's "meetings" were actually "a massive hangover".
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    07/13/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew Comparisons Still Stalk Sotomayor
    Watching the opening statements is fascinating, though I couldn't help but wonder if she's wearing blue because blue is supposed to make you look truthful in court (....so TV tells me).



    Oh snap, protester. Honey, that failure of a pony tail is not going to get you any lady friends.
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    Image of J.D.Regent J.D.Regent
    07/13/09

    @tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock: it's probably her gang color. Isn't that what she meant by that "wiseguy Latina" comment?
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    07/13/09

    @J.D.Regent: Would that make her a Crip?
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    07/13/09

    @my cousin is an ape: MS-13?
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    Image of Lymed Lymed
    07/13/09

    @J.D.Regent: I thought MS-13 was Salvadoran, but hey, they are all Mexicans to her critics anyway.
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    Image of Treeless Treeless
    07/13/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew Comparisons Still Stalk Sotomayor
    Judge Sotomayor's detractors will despise empathy until they're standing in front of a judge themselves, and then they will cry for it.
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    07/13/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew Comparisons Still Stalk Sotomayor
    I think I'm really starting to learn all the coded words.



    "empathy and intuition" = HOLY SHIT it's a female woman!

    "community organizer" = HOLY SHIT it's a black person!



    I'm sure there are more, but I am having trouble thinking thoughts - my empathy and intuition get in the way.
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    07/13/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: "pro-choice" = HOLY SHIT it's a baby killer!

    "female politician" = HOLY SHIT it's a cold bitch!

    "activist judge" = HOLY SHIT it's a liberal!
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    Image of Slovenly Muse Slovenly Muse
    06/08/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew, Sonia Sotomayor, & Feminism: Questions For Chelsea Cain
    Awww, I loved Nancy Drew so much as a kid, I would have two or three books on the go at one time, just reading more of whichever book I felt like as the mood struck. My parents were amazed I could keep three different mysteries straight in my mind, but it actually didn't work so well. I'd sometimes start suspecting characters who weren't actually in the book I was reading, and so on. It was fun, though. I don't regret a thing!
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    Image of NotChoinski NotChoinski
    06/08/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew, Sonia Sotomayor, & Feminism: Questions For Chelsea Cain
    Did anybody read the Nancy Clue / Hardly Boys series of spoofs? Very funny. Each page goes into increadible detail of what everyone was wearing, what they were eating, and every turn of their emotional state. The main character, Nurse Detective Cherry Ames, completely misses every clue that leaps out at her. And everyone's gay.


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    06/08/09

    @NotChoinski:


    Whoops! "Nurse Detective Cherry Aimless"

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    Image of zombie.nancy is a godess of fierce zombie.nancy is a godess of fierce
    06/08/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew, Sonia Sotomayor, & Feminism: Questions For Chelsea Cain
    My facial tick starts spasming with the thought of someone trying to slam Nancy Drew or draw whacked-out conclusions about the character of a person who read Nancy Drew.

    It's not 'Mein Kampf' for fuck's sake.
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    Image of sara-without-an-h sara-without-an-h
    06/08/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew, Sonia Sotomayor, & Feminism: Questions For Chelsea Cain
    I read all the Nancy Drews, but in French, and she is called Alice Rivers, George is called Marion and Bess stays Bess. Strangely, Ned Nickerson remains Ned, which is not French-friendly at all. I was always mystified by those switches.

    Enid Blyton books were also name-translated, for British Jezebelles: Darrell became Dolly!
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    Image of zombie.nancy is a godess of fierce zombie.nancy is a godess of fierce
    06/08/09

    @sara-without-an-h: Because of my Nancy Drew obession, I am always on the lookout for a guy named Ned cuz he'll obviously be my soul-mate.
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    Image of save jinger save jinger
    06/08/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew, Sonia Sotomayor, & Feminism: Questions For Chelsea Cain
    Reason #235 why I will never run for office: They would somehow find out I like Sophie Kinsella books and use that against me.
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    Image of descent descent
    06/08/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew, Sonia Sotomayor, & Feminism: Questions For Chelsea Cain
    I was obsessed with Sweet Valley High as a kid. I think it just means I'm shallow and slightly dumb.
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    Image of MarissaExplainsItAll MarissaExplainsItAll
    06/08/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew, Sonia Sotomayor, & Feminism: Questions For Chelsea Cain
    I love Nancy Drew. I tried to solve mysteries as a kid but was disappointed that there were no secret staircases in Southern California housing tracts.
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    Image of stacyinbean stacyinbean
    06/08/09

    @MarissaExplainsItAll: When I moved to my parent's current home, built in the late 19th century, I was CONVINCED there had to be secret rooms, hiding places and what not. I only found one and it was really just the attic, jerks.
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    Image of HereComesMyBaby HereComesMyBaby
    06/08/09

    @MarissaExplainsItAll: I made my friends be in a "mystery club" with me, but our "adventure" was "why do all the kids in class keep talking to an empty blob?" The "empty blob" was a girl who was my arch-nemesis. Basically, I had all my friends pretend she was invisible, and the mystery we had to solve was why everyone keeps talking to her if she's invisible.


    Yes, I was an evil child.

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    06/08/09

    In reply to Nancy Drew, Sonia Sotomayor, & Feminism: Questions For Chelsea Cain
    Oh yes, "her popularity and good looks" are definitely troubling and not very feminist.
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    Image of Dodgergirl Dodgergirl
    06/08/09

    @doodlebug: I think the question isn't do those attributes make her feminist or not but does the focus on them in the stories take away from her being represented in a feminist way. In other words, do the stories place disproportionate value on her looks and popularity?
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    06/08/09

    @Dodgergirl: The way the statement in the post reads it's implied that she's less of a feminist because she's good looking and popular and that the books are somehow less feminist because they emphasize these attributes. I think that just reinforces a convenient anti-feminist stereotype that feminists are unattractive and off-putting.


    Cain is an author and shouldn't be held up as a expert on feminism just because she writes ND parodies. (And reading the statement again, perhaps she meant their were other non-feminist qualities.) But it's interesting to see how closely she associates beauty and popularity as a knock against her feminist cred.

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    Image of Dodgergirl Dodgergirl
    06/08/09

    @doodlebug: Right, but I don't think that's the way the criticism was constructed or meant. It's not "she's pretty and popular," it's "we're reminded endlessly" that she's pretty and popular. And I DO think that could have been a problem-- that an essential part of her identity is her physical beauty, but, as Cain suggests right after that, she has other parts of her personality that are more important, and that's what makes the difference. If Nancy's personality was simply "pretty and popular" I would definitely have a problem with calling her a feminist, not because those two qualities make her NOT a feminist, but because those two qualities alone wouldn't make her a well-rounded character, just a caricature.
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