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    Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark

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    Image of kerry kerry
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    As disappointed as I am about the first African-American "princess" spending 90% of the movie as a frog, I agree with Dodai that at least the human version will be at the park -- and, presumably, on all the merchandise -- for girls (and boys) to see. #theprincessandthefrog
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    10/28/09

    @kerry: We don't know yet how much time she spends as a frog. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of totallynavy totallynavy
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    I'm really excited for this movie. A lot of people seem to be upset that Tiana will be spending the movie as a frog. Really? I mean, Mulan was a man for half of her film. Somebody else just told me that Tiana wasn't a princess to begin with, that since she marries a prince it is demeaning to women. Belle wasn't a princess either at first, but she was pretty much one of the best heroines, ever, along with Cinderella. And as for working as a maid being offensive? Please. Cinderella worked her ass off being the house maid for her icky step-family. Why can't people just let the kids (and I) enjoy this movie instead of weighing it down with the PC patrol?
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    Image of bookling bookling
    10/27/09

    @totallynavy: I was under the impression that neither Tiana nor her "prince" were actually a princess or prince, due to the fact that the movie takes place in 1920's America. In the movie storybooks I've seen at work, though, it seems that her restaurant at the end is called "Tiana's Palace" or something similar, thus making them "royalty". #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of mommy_dearest mommy_dearest
    10/27/09

    @bookling: SPOILER SPOILER: We just got the story book (easy reader version). In the book, there is no indication that Prince Naveen is a fake prince. He gets turned into a frog by evil Facilier. He has to kiss a princess to turn back into a prince. He sees Tiana at a costume party dressed as a princess, and mistakes her for one. They kiss, but since she is NOT a princess, SHE turns into a frog. They then spend time trying to get fixed. He is then supposed to kiss another princess (who looks to be a grown up little blond girl that was friends with Tiana), but it is too late. By that time, Tiana and the prince are in love (as frogs) and get married (as frogs). By marrying the prince, Tiana becomes a real princess, so when they kiss, it actually works, and POOF they turn back into people. Then she gets her very own restaurant at the end. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of bookling bookling
    10/27/09

    @mommy_dearest: So does "prince/princess" just equal "rich person/old money" here? I'm just confused because without kings and queens, how can you have princes and princesses? #theprincessandthefrog
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    10/27/09

    @bookling: It doesn't say where Prince Naveen is from, but it does say that he is visiting New Orleans, not actually from there. So I assume he is from another country? #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of elysium_kitschen elysium_kitschen
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    Screw FL, when will she be at Disneyland??? (Just kidding, Floridians...) #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Dodai Dodai
    10/27/09

    @elysium_kitschen: I mention Disneyland in the post, and there is more information at the link provided. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of elysium_kitschen elysium_kitschen
    10/27/09

    @Dodai: Oops. That's what happens when I read too fast :) I guess I know where I'll be on Nov. 6. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of jfwlucy jfwlucy
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    I'm also thrilled Disney has finally figured out what to do with the color green besides Tinkerbell. Every princess has her signature color(s).

    Snow White -- red, blue, yellow
    Cinderella -- blue
    Sleeping Beauty -- pink
    Ariel -- red and green
    Belle -- yellow
    Jasmine -- purple
    Pocahontas -- brown
    Mulan -- aqua and pink

    Black is for the bad girls

    That leaves orange for the future La Princesa Latina!!

    Seriously, doesn't the whole concept of a Quinceañera fit right into a Disney movie? ! #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of pengcat pengcat
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    Why is Buzz Lightyear there? Please don't tell me he is being co-opted into the princess maelstrom. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of GreyEminence GreyEminence
    10/27/09

    @pengcat: They needed someone cool to keep the Beast company. You just know that the two Prince Charmings are like that annoying couple that makes out all the time and ignores everyone around them. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of desgarcons desgarcons
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    I'm not watching this movie because I am terrified of frogs. I can't even stand the trailer. I'm glad there's no giant frog at the Magic Kingdom. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    In case anyone is curious, here's the Tiana costume dress.

    [www.disneystore.com]

    Expensive, but if it were my size I'd totally buy it. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of o-line o-line
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    The expression on Snow White's face reminds me of the scene in The Little Mermaid, in which the other princess mermaids sing about their charms and go to introduce Ariel, who is not there, and the music screeches and everything goes to pot.

    In other news, Tiana's presence excites me, and I was never a big princess fan.
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    Image of Jorie Slodki Jorie Slodki
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    When is Tiana going to get her own line of Disney Princess wedding dresses? #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Triana Orpheus Triana Orpheus
    10/27/09

    @Jorie Slodki: Now. [dcp.smugmug.com] #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of otherginger otherginger
    10/27/09

    @Triana Orpheus: Also, her official doll is lovely and comes with neat alternative blue gown and looks at least a little more ethnic, for lack of better more PC word, than the much-discussed Black Barbie. Okay, so I'm getting a little too excited about Tiana now.

    *takes 47 year old self off to buy sensible panty hose or something* #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Triana Orpheus Triana Orpheus
    10/27/09

    @otherginger: Oh, honey no. I thought I was done with Disney, but now I'm sitting here perusing the Disney Bridal collection at work. *hums "Someday My Prince Will Come"* #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Newsgirl Newsgirl
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    I fully intend to take my mid-20s self to the movie theater to see this as soon as it's out. And it's going to be SO MUCH FUN. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of tldr tldr
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    Yay!

    My inner 5-year old is still jealous there's no Latina princess though. :( #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of TexasCrude TexasCrude
    10/27/09

    @tldr: Word, sister. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    Mock Mardi Gras parade for the kids, complete with beads? There is going to be an entire generation growing up to think that beads are thrown to the little girl with the most excited smile and the little boy who waves at the princess on the float rather than the little drunken co-ed who exposes her breasts. Sort of like how for most of my childhood and into my tween years, I honestly thought that babies were caused by praying to Jesus.
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    Image of leesie leesie
    10/27/09

    @morninggloria: That only happens in NOLA, though. In other Gulf Coast cities it really IS only a smile and a wave, thankfully. Promise!

    Also, babies aren't caused by praying to Jesus??? #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    10/27/09

    @leesie: It doesn't even happen that often in NOLA.

    But morninggloria's humor is best left in its original form. #theprincessandthefrog
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    10/27/09

    @leesie: It only happens with tourists in the french quarter. Families go to the parades all over the city and get beads by having sweet costumes and waving and yelling to the float riders. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of WaltzingMatilda WaltzingMatilda
    10/27/09

    @all: The NOLA non-Quarter parades are definitely family friendly (but drunk) and the best time in the city (screw you tourists! I lived on two major parade routes - GTFO!), but they are still shocking in that you strap your young'un into a seat piled high upon a step ladder precariously placed on the neutral ground to maximize vertical coverage. I spent most of my time drunkenly praying that the kids wouldn't fall. I wasn't always succesful.

    Step ladder + bead tossing + "throw me sumthin', mister" + barely strapped-in kid + drunk parent = dangerousness overshadowed only by the occasional shooting on the parade route.

    As long as Disney incorporates children falling from ladders, it will be practically authentic.
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    10/27/09

    @WaltzingMatilda: The ladders. OMG how did I forget the horror of those things. Source of my fear of heights. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of jenilane jenilane
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    I think Donald is trying to recruit her to Team No-Pants! #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of bluebears bluebears
    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    This is where I acknowledge my own privilege. Prior to reading this I had never thought about how little girls who were not white had felt when they were confronted with all white princesses at Disney Land/World. I am very happy this situation has been remedied. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Elaken Elaken
    10/27/09

    @bluebears: It kind of makes me wonder about Disneyland in Japan. They import all their princesses from places like Australia. I wonder what goes through their head as they go there and all the princesses are foreigners. #theprincessandthefrog
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    10/27/09

    @Elaken: Whoa. Mind blown. Privilege exposed. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of dreamharder dreamharder
    10/27/09

    @Elaken: That's lame, why can't any ethnicity represent a Disney princess? Chinese Ariel, Thai Belle anyone? #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of Elaken Elaken
    10/27/09

    @dreamharder: I agree. I don't have kids so I could be off on this, but I would imagine if the character has the dress and the hair color (the most notable aspects), a kid wouldn't be put off by a different skin color. Or eye shade - as someone mentioned elsewhere that their friend had to wear contacts to play the part. #theprincessandthefrog
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    10/27/09

    In reply to Cue The Singing & Dancing: Disney's Black Princess Arrives At Themepark
    Has anyone else seen the Tiana dresses at the Disney store? I'm trying to figure out how to make myself a child's size 4 because I NEED ONE. They are absofuckinglutely fantastic.

    I am stupidly excited about this movie coming out and will probably be seeing it in theater. I'll bring my step-sister so it'll look like I have an excuse. #theprincessandthefrog
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    10/27/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: They really are beautiful, I love the shade of green they used. My daughter loved it, too, but since she doesn't know anything about the movie really, or the character, she picked Ariel. Again. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of redqueenmeg redqueenmeg
    10/27/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: [www.costumecraze.com] ? #theprincessandthefrog
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    10/27/09

    @redqueenmeg: LES GASP!~ If I weren't white, I would be Tiana this year. However, I am relatively sure I can use the same dress to be a water nymph or something. And I think I will. Next year, since I've already got a costume this year. #theprincessandthefrog
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    Image of SheelaNaGig SheelaNaGig
    10/27/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles and @Piranha426: These comments are making me wonder about the propriety of a white person dressing as a black character (obviously I'm not talking about blackface, which is wrong in any context). I'm genuinely not sure if it would be racially offensive, which is a somewhat subjective concept.

    To reverse it, I'd never want a black child to think she couldn't be Cinderella for Halloween because she wasn't white or blonde. I think the fact that we're talking about a cartoon character as opposed to an actual person makes a difference, and I think a little girl would probably pick the costume she thought was the prettiest without any racial intent. #theprincessandthefrog
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    10/27/09

    @SheelaNaGig: I think it's one thing for a child to decide she wants to be someone of another race, and there's not the same context if a white person is dressing up like a black person. But for a white adult to dress up like a black adult can have questionable connotations and I feel like it's important to respect that. #theprincessandthefrog
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    10/27/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: Well damn, where's my edit button? I meant to say it's not the same context if a BLACK person is dressing up like a WHITE person. What I said up there is pretty much the exact opposite of what I wanted. #theprincessandthefrog
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