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I go to church every Sunday, and attend the temple about once a month.
I also pose naked for artists, am a modern dancer, and write comic books.
I also think this calendar is stupid, cheesy, and regrettable. But also not a huge deal. #hotmormonmuffins
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My muffin top is all that
Whole-grain, low fat
I know you want a piece of that
But I just wanna dance #hotmormonmuffins
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Modesty was the LAST thing that I had a problem with in this church, so it pisses me off that that's the first stereotype they need to dismiss. Really? Not the submissive homemaker schtick? Not the fact that I've actually sat through a lesson on baking in the women's sunday school segment of church? (I don't think the men got this lesson!)
Also, and this might be nitpicking, but an average, practicing mormon would be wearing garments. They wouldn't even own this kind of underwear. I know that lingerie shots aren't exactly representative of what women really wear on a daily basis, but isn't that part of the inherent fantasy? That underneath their day to day clothes, women are covered in lace and garters? But a Mormon woman just never would be, so this fantasy doesn't make sense. Why don't they show a confindent, faithful Mormon woman being sensual in her garments? Oh wait, that would be like, REAL progressive and scandalous. Ironically these cliched Maxim-esque shots actually end up being the safer route. #hotmormonmuffins
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The pictures? Not so much.
Honestly, I know I should be asking big questions about irony and religion and posing and objectification, but all that's really on my mind is why sexy pics have to look like this- made for male consumption. I mean, I know they're kitschy cheesecake and supposed to have "a sense of humor", but if I could see a real picture capturing the essence of what it means to be a sensual religious woman, of standing up proudly and defy the sexless stereotypes without then filling that space with the de rigeur sexified pictures that innundate our media, I'd buy the calendar in an instant.
Ah, but then I guess it wouldn't be half as okay, because it wouldn't have that jokey quality, complete with muffin recipes. #hotmormonmuffins
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(also, now the above sounds dirty. I'm thinking of Bret and NC-17 ladies in a stream of margarine!) #hotmormonmuffins
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Also, I have a big issue with the ironic pin-ups as empowerment argument. How you (the person posing) mean for something to be interpreted is pretty irrelevant. If everyone else is still going to interpret it in another way, you're not exactly making a statement. It's a similar issue when people defend statements like "that's gay" or racial jokes by saying they don't "mean them to be negative." It's not how you mean it, it's how everyone else receives it.
*Disclaimer: All my Mormon knowledge comes from Big Love and Jon Krakauer, so I'm no expert. #hotmormonmuffins
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This calendar is not an "official" publication. Like Catholics, Mormons have a top-down hierarchy that fairly tightly controls "official" statements and publications. I suspect it has as much to do with the (corporation of the president of the) Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints as the hot priests calendar has with the actual Vatican. #hotmormonmuffins
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Also, this may be a really stupid thing to say, but are there casual/nonpracticing Mormons like there are with other religions? It always struck me as a somewhat all-or-nothing situation. #hotmormonmuffins
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An "observant" Mormon would not pose for these photos, because modesty IS a very basic part of the LDS culture.
A good rule of thumb for modest dress for both LDS women and men is that if their garments would show out of the clothes they're wearing (hang out the bottom of a skirt or shorts, peek out of the side of too short sleeves or show in a low cut blouse etc.) they should not wear them. In church they talk about wearing clothes that are "garment ready" even if you're not wearing garments yet.
I hope this helps!
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Mormons living in Utah tend to be much more zealous than those living in other places. It seems people in other states are more apt to pick and choose which teachings they want to follow. In Utah, there's a lot of pressure to conform.
@RevengeSpice: I have to disagree with you. The only way to leave the church is to be excommunicated - you cannot have your name taken off the rolls without being officially excommunicated and, if you're a man, being stripped of the priesthood. This happened in my family and the entire process was a nightmare. Once of my best friends in college was excommunicated when he refused to make a public apology to his ward following some criticisms he had made of the church's stance on homosexuality. Another friend's uncle was excommunicated after he had an affair. I don't think the church is out hunting people to excommunicate, but it's hardly a rare occurrence. #hotmormonmuffins
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One is not removed just for not showing up. And yes, the mormons keep lots of records (check out their genealogy!) so if you were baptized, you're in there somewhere. And unlike other churches, they will find you and try and fellow-ship you back in. As with excommunications, this is very much down to the local level; you may have a ward that's not so keen to borderline harrass people back in, or you may get someone who's a super missionary. I get the feeling if my parents had stayed in Utah, they would have wound up excommunicated. Where they are now, they're not chastised in any way. #hotmormonmuffins
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Might there be a problem with one's traditions if one cannot express oneself as human within those traditions?
(BTW I'm not personally ripping on LDS traditions ... just on the crises of identity and faith evident in this sentence)
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Ah shit, this has been said. I am the TJ Maxx of comments.
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Bottom line is that the sacred garments are designed to force women to dress "modestly." Gotta love the LDS Church. #hotmormonmuffins
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After all, modest is hottest, ladies!
@Percy: There's a fairly good description on Wikipedia. And it's not really "underwear" in the sense we think of, but more like old-fashioned long underwear. As a child, I remember seeing a woman wearing a bra over her garment top.
[en.wikipedia.org]
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I haven't had them in years and now I'm craving 'em so hardcore. #hotmormonmuffins
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I refuse to buy the calendar, there must be a subversive way to get that recipe. #hotmormonmuffins
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[www.rainbowgardens.com] #hotmormonmuffins
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