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"If Celebrities Make You Feel Like A Loser, TV Fatties Make You Feel Like A Celebrity."
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sequined
09/28/09

In reply to "If Celebrities Make You Feel Like A Loser, TV Fatties Make You Feel Like A Celebrity."
Doesn't that quote basically say that if you're offended by these shows, you're a gross fatty without a sense of humor and you should really just lose some weight and enjoy them with the rest of us?

Because that's how I'm reading it.
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PerinealFavorite
09/28/09

@sequined: No, he's saying if you enjoy these shows it is either because you are a gross fatty who can relate or because you are a mean skinny person who likes laughing at fatties.

I don't think the possibility you would be offended even entered his mind. Why would anyone be offended by Fatty Catharsis programming?

Also, I would like to name my band Fatty Catharsis.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
09/28/09

@PerinealFavorite: "No, he's saying if you enjoy these shows it is either because you are a gross fatty who can relate or because you are a mean skinny person who likes laughing at fatties."
That's what I got. And he thinks it's his readers who are the misanthropes ...

"I don't think the possibility you would be offended even entered his mind."
Yeah, the I-am-the-fount-of-all-truth tone was what put me off most.
He should move to Oz. I hear there's an opening.
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JessickerFletcher
09/28/09

In reply to "If Celebrities Make You Feel Like A Loser, TV Fatties Make You Feel Like A Celebrity."
I hope I never see the word "fattertainment" again. Ever. And please make sure to hide this article from the networks because I can honestly see Fattertainment Fridays on Fox. I love alliteration, but not like that.
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REZPECT
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
I don't think anybody has to worry too much about Tali being "Stuck" with Luke, as statistics have proven these Reality Dating Show romances (almost) never last.
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sleepeatread
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
That dog is the only reason I would consider spending time with that man.
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BabyJane
09/16/09

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Maybe Luke isn't all bad. I'll give him credit for having a really cute dog.
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theringer
09/16/09

@BabyJane: I know it's kind of crazy but I like him more for the dog. Anyone with a mutt that cute can't be all bad.
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BabyJane
09/16/09

@theringer: I'm a sucker for animals, so it always gives me a more favorable impression of someone when they are sweet with a pet.
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cupscake
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
was his dad wasted? he was totally hitting on Malissa with his eyes!
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redqueenmeg
09/16/09

@cupscake: It doesn't take booze for a lot of dads to give their sons' girlfriends THE LOOK.
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BabyJane
09/16/09

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Luke's mother and father seem so mismatched that I'm starting to think that they met on a reality show.
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Sophie needs to study...damn
09/16/09

@BabyJane: For real! I had to scroll back up and do a double-take on Dad. Mom may have had "Irish eyes" throughout their marriage until she sobered up.
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tankearae
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
Ok, I watched part of this show last night for the first time as I waited for the Big Brother finale and a couple observations:

1. Malissa seemed really...phony. Was that just the editing last night? Or was she always like that?

2. I was kind of appalled by the Jesus freak dad. Maybe its because my mother came from a Southern Baptist background and married a Jew, apparently without incident, and somehow created me...but barely being able to contain your revulsion or confusion at a Jewish person rubs me the wrong way.

Though I'm an atheist and general all around person, so maybe I'm secretly beating myself out because OMG HE WAS RIGHT.

Ok, not so much.
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CloudsInMyCoffee
09/16/09

@tankearae: I hear ya, but some of my relatives (who are all now long gone) grew up Southern Baptist and had absorbed the "Jews killed Jesus" idea from childhood. So maybe that prejudice is still ingrained in his head...
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JinxyMcDeath
09/16/09

@tankearae: I'm from an interfaith marriage and my christian side is totally welcoming...just not my grandparents. But it's not a religion thing, I think it's more of a class thing. To them, Jews are low-class. They're pretty old.
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AFever
09/16/09

@JinxyMcDeath: That's so funny, because I'm jewish and my boyfriend's old, korean, hardcore-catholic parents are ok with that, because they think jews are high class, and all wealthy and intelligent. Stereotypes are so random.
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JinxyMcDeath
09/16/09

@AFever: Well, like I said...my grandparents are REALLY old. So, when they were growing up, Jews were low-class in NYC. I don't think it helped that my dad's parents never went to college, but my mom's parents BOTH went to college (yes, my grandmother not only went to college...but graduated from a very good one in 3 years). It essentially proved their point. But, like I said...these people are old-school.
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TheFormerJuneBronson
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
I watched this with more horror and disgust than I can ever recall in reaction to a TV show. The whole time, I was like, "Please don't say that. Oh, please don't. Don't do the wet smooching into the mics. Don't humiliate yourself on national TV for this gigantic tool. You're too good. Humanity is too good." I really just don't have the stomach for this kind of thing.

I find myself hoping this show does wonderful things for Tali's career, and for her love life...with someone else.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
I feel like a dude whenever I see a picture of Malissa because it's like, "Oh hai boobs!" Even in the still of her on the sofa in the tank top, they shot her from a slightly higher angle so you still get a good look down her shirt. I'm pretty sure that was a production decision intended to bring in more heterosexual male viewers.
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TheFormerJuneBronson
09/16/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: I noticed that during the final date, when he was talking to her before the makeout session, he was blatantly looking down her dress. He probably did it with Tali, too, but I didn't notice it. He seemed to have less trouble looking her in the eye when he talked to her. I've been on the other end of that one before; Malissa probably thought it was a compliment. She seems about that bright.
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RustyHeadedGirl
09/16/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Yeah, they've definitely got her on display. And by "her" I mean "her boobs".
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
09/16/09

@TheFormerJuneBronson: He's totally staring at her boobs even in that screengrab. If you were to trace their eyelines, she's looking somewhere in the neighborhood of his forehead and he's doing some mental spelunking.
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JinxyMcDeath
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
Luke's dad was 100% against Tali for being Jewish and his insisting on praying about Jesus (instead of maybe saying "God" as a common ground - something both religions can agreed on) at the table and then "praising the lord" and constantly talking about the christian vs. jew thing...I was like "we get it, dad...you're a fucking asshole." Also, I think he's an alcoholic. Bitch was always drinking!! Then, Malissa walks in all blond-haired and American and he's FREAKING OUT happy. He's THRILLED she says "Amen" after his Jesus prayer and tells Luke that the choice is "obvious" and that Malissa would "fit in perfectly" with the family. We get it, Dad. Malissa is a white christian american. Yawn. No wonder why Luke's mom divorced him...

I hope it works out for Tali and Luke...
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TedSez
09/16/09

@JinxyMcDeath: Don't ask me why I watched this show, but that prayer teed me off more than anything. I've broken bread with plenty of devout Christians (including clergy) who were always careful to make their prayers inclusive when I was there. The fact that this d-bag dad made everyone hold hands to make sure Tali was included when he said grace made it clear that not only would he never accept her as she is, he thinks she's basically a heathen whose own religious views don't matter.

The whole thing reminded me of the scene in Annie Hall where Woody Allen meets Diane Keaton's family, and all they can see is a 19th-century orthodox rabbi.
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LawFairy
09/16/09

@JinxyMcDeath: As a nominally Christian gal with a Jewish boyfriend and a converted-Jew mom who's still married to Christian dad -- and who's really nervous about how Christmas is gonna work out this year -- I really wish I hadn't watched that clip. I want to scream at the dad "THE ONLY REASON THERE IS 'CONFLICT' IS BECAUSE YOU NARROW-MINDED CHRISTIANS WANT TO CONVERT THE JEWS, ASSHOLE!!!"

I've never met a Jew who felt the need to proselytize me. But I've been pressured LIKE HELL (and my poor mom, bless her soul, has put up with so much shit from her family for converting) to go out and "evangelize" random people, to the point that I don't even like admitting I'm Christian anymore (heh, which maybe means I'm not, really, anyway).
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DorothyBarker
09/16/09

@LawFairy: Part of that, fyi, is that Jews specifically DON'T proselytize. It's looked down upon entirely. (I'm pretty sure there are specific edicts against it.) In fact, as I'm sure you know (b/c of your Mom) we make it HARD to get in. We're a prickly bunch.
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GirlyQ is a manta ray
09/16/09

@DorothyBarker: It's part of our charm. I'm a convert, and I always assumed it was because they wanted you to be double extra plus sure that you actually wanted to be Jewish.
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KillMeNow no longer has a future in journalism
09/16/09

@GirlyQ wants Ziva: Well, sure. I mean, it's quite a burden to have to end up settling for Luke.
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Miss. Money-Sterling
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
I never saw this show, but please, someone tell me that the song Brick House (OWWW) made an appearance, hopefully as the theme song, but at least in a karaoke scene.

For the record, I love that song, and have always thought of it as championing the virtues of us sturdy-built ladies.
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SaraRueful
09/16/09

@Miss. Money-Sterling: Except the lyrics go, "36-24-36 ..." blah blah blah. So no.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
09/16/09

@SaraRueful: So what you're saying is that Baby Got Back is the more appropriate choice, where those measurements are considered appropriate "if she's 5'3!"
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Miss. Money-Sterling
09/16/09

@SaraRueful: I usually ignore that part and just imagine the Muppet version...
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RustyHeadedGirl
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
I've kind of got my fingers crossed that this was a one-off in reality show land, but I know it won't be. *Sigh*
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
Dear Fellow Chubby Girls,

When Cameryn Manheim dedicated her Golden Globe to "all the fat girls!" it was cute and charming and off the cuff. Now it is none of those things. In fact, it is pretty much de rigeur. Please stop.

Sincerely,

Ms. Skittles
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I_b_meh
09/16/09

In reply to More To Love Finale: Luke Proposes; We Learn "Love Has No Shape Or Size"
I think that someone who grew up fat would have a better perspective about being fat. Maybe I'm wrong I dunno. I just liked the girl he picked alot more and in that last screen cap of Malissa, she looks like whatever asshole I'm fabulous.
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