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    Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness

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    10/29/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    Yes, I realize this is a thoughtful article about a serious issue, but I must say:

    Whoo Minnesota State Fair and the bizzare custom of carving people out of butter! One of my besties (Douglas County Dairy Princess represent!) still has most of hers. #attractiveness
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    10/29/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    A lot of size-zero girls don't have eating disorders. A lot of them are just that size. #attractiveness
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    10/29/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    With all due respect, Mr. Sager, you're an asshole. But since I said "with all due respect" you can't get mad. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    And this is what irritates me about how little most people understand about ED's. They're a form of self destruction, and they're more about...becoming less, fixing something that needs to be starved out of you. A side effect is that, currently in our culture, thinness is equated with beauty...but only as long as you don't look like you're trying. The whole thing is really distressing.

    Plus, ye old, "you should like yourself because men do" trope...yuck. Over it. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    I'm size zero and I'm healthy! WHERE DO I FIT, STUDY? #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    I'm interested to know if they studies different race or ethnic groups, or if they just went with white men. I'm a "big girl" (about 20 pounds of it is weight, the rest of it is just how I'm BUILT), my husband and best friend are Arab, and they go CRAZY for large women. I haven't yet met an Arab man who found white America's "ideal" skinny woman attractive, and from what they both tell me, "large" women are the standard for beautiful in their countries - in fact, they consider a woman who is 20 pounds overweight to look healthier than thin women.

    Any ideas? #attractiveness
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    10/29/09

    @hollymar: Idea: date an Arabic man. My children will have fabulous hair and glorious skin tone and he will (evidence shows) love my body and make me feel beautiful. I thought they just liked me for my hair color in Turkey, no wonder theys alls was trippin'. #attractiveness
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    10/30/09

    @hollymar: This is just bad science, and as a scientist I'm offended by it. People who are doing behavioral correlations need to be AWARE of cultural diversification. In different parts of the world, different norms and different genes rule. It's sad to see Hollywood make the standards of beauty more homogeneous, as a matter of fact. #attractiveness
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    11/06/09

    @Snowbunny: HA! Seriously! I thought there was something wrong with me until I dated Arabs, and then I was like, "OH! Our idea of beauty is just totally fubared!" Actually, my husband told me that in Morocco, men who marry skinny women are made fun of by their friends in the same way guys who date "fat chicks" are by their friends in the U.S. Bonus: The male standard for attractiveness is about the same, so they're as likely to work out and watch their weight as American men. ;) And yes, they do have glorious skin tone and fabulous hair. Mmmmm....now I need to go track that man down... #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    As an average-weight woman, this made me happy to read. I know they're oversimplifying the issues of both overweight and underweight women (men won't like you if you're too fat or too thin!), but it makes me feel more confident about my "average" body. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    @Ultraprison!: Good! You SHOULD be happy. Sager's an ass and BBC are insensitive but I don't find anything inherently wrong with either study.

    Tomorrow, there will be another study or magazine or talk show telling me that men prefer underweight women with fake boobs and tiny feet. And tomorrow, independent of any external input, I will still feel awesome about my average body and beautiful face. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    A major mental illness: SOLVED.

    Next week: "Hey cancer, it's me! Stop hitting yourself!" #attractiveness
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    10/29/09

    @Snowbunny: You made me snerk so hard at work. Thank you. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    "Most people who develop eating disorders don't do it so that guys will like them."

    Hugs to you Anna for pointing out what should be obvious, but apparently is not to many many people. When I was anorexic in high school, my parents would tell me "Guys want you to have some meat on your bones!" as if it was about looking pretty and getting dates. Dating was the last thing on my mind when I was 14; I was starting high school and panicked about how I would get into top universities. (My parents were classic, pathetically confused ED parents, and also tried strategies like buying my favorite junk foods to get me to "just snap out of it and eat something.")

    Even now when I lapse into ED thinking patterns, it is all about isolating myself and feeling like a little girl- which is pretty much the opposite of making an effort to attract guys. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    Every time a guy says his favorite feature of a girl, or what he first notices about a girl, is her eyes, I think:

    a) he is probably lying.

    b) he is being pathetically superficial and cliche while trying to sound "deep" and "sensitive," which is a guaranteed deal breaker. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    Look, the point is, what you look like is the very most important thing. Always.

    /sarc #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    As Dwight Schrute would say, you can't have a human butterface, humans don't make butter. You can have a goat sculpture out of goat butter or a cow sculpture out of cow butter. Idiots. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    @Needy's Body: This replay made me inexplicably happy. Idiots indeed. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    This is the kind of shit that saddled me with incredible amounts of insecurity when I was younger, and even now, somewhat. I remember thinking, when I entered high school, that my body was more attractive than my face (a totally fucked up way of looking at it, I know). And while I've never been called anything like "butterface," I've certainly heard it used. A lot. It is one of the reasons I developed severe issues around my body and put a lot of my worth into how it looked. As in, thinness was my "power," because I had nothing else.

    In the end it's just fucking sick that anyone thinks like this. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    @Penny: I had the opposite experience. I've been a size sixteen since I was sixteen, and you don't know how many times people have told me I have a pretty face. It's not a compliment because what they mean is, "Your face is kind of pretty and, if you weren't so fat, you might be pretty, too." I guess you could say I felt like a 'butterbody' (which is kind of hilarious since I'm a chubby girl, but I digress), and it didn't exactly work miracles for my self-esteem. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    Why do none of those links provide a link to the original study? I'm interested in the percentages that women chose, but apparently everyone is only supposed to care about what men would choose. Also, as a totally healthy size 0, fuck BBC. That was a totally unnecessary title. Actually, all of those links have offensive titles. Fuck. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    @TurnItOff: I'm interested in the percentages that women chose, but apparently everyone is only supposed to care about what men would choose.

    Exactly. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    I'm just excited to find out that I can diagnose illnesses and chronic diseases by looking at someone's face! We're gonna save a shitload on those hospital johnnies. #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Butterfaces And "Size Zero Girls:" The Morality Of Female Attractiveness
    great, men prefer normal size girls. but what is normal? last time i checked, there's quite a bit of variation. I'm hardpressed to come up with a definition of "normal". #attractiveness
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    10/28/09

    @Thistledew: Agreed. I'd like to retire "normal" as a descriptor for women right along with "size 0." It's as bad as "real." That jumped out to me right away as problematic. "Average" would be a better descriptor; at least the author could base that on a statistic, as opposed to his own subjective generalization. #attractiveness
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