You forgot to post the last part of the quote from the woman who has had sex 10 times in the past two years:
"It's like I've forgotten that part of my life and I don't miss it other than thinking that I should."
She's not having sex because she doesn't WANT to be having sex. She is not sad about not having sex, she feels guilty about not having sex which is completely different.
I think this is somehow indicative of the insane emphasis and unrealistic expectations we put on marriage/long-term relationships. She had a BABY, really not that long ago, but somehow her life is not valid unless she's boning her man? She can't possibly be happy?
For the record, I'm childless and still loving sex, but this judgement just seems wrong.
@neuroticcharm: I don't know if this is really related or not (or just in my head) but I think that what you said here is part of a larger issue that I have with the general atmosphere out there about having kids (at least among the middle and upper middle class): There seems to be an awful lot of not-liking women's actual (as opposed to idealized) bodies.
Women's bodies were engineered to carry babies, have babies, and make milk. Women who choose not to do that - cool! But most women do all of those things, and their bodies respond in kind. Without wanting to sound like a hippie, the whole messy business is (ahem) natural.
A grown woman doesn't look like a 16 year old. A grown woman who is pregnant or nursing or had a baby doesn't look, smell, or sound (pregnancy farts, anyone?) like a 16 year old. Nor does she have sex like a 16 year old. Or like a grown woman who has done none of those things.
Remember that wonderful post last week about being today's biscuit? [jezebel.com] Today doesn't get anymore today-ish (talk about making up words!) than when you've had a baby.
Boyfriend has said no sex while I'm pregnant. He said he'll be content to break out toys, to get me off however I see fit, but he doesn't want to do me. Not because he finds the pregnant body off-putting, but because he gets weirded out by the thought of his cock being so close to the baby.
I am confident this will change by the time pregnancy rolls around (give or take 10 years), not unlike his views on breastfeeding have changed since he was 17. Bless him. He better get over it. -_-
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I spent the first 18 years of my life hearing from my mom how having kids ruins your life and makes you want to fling yourself off a bridge just to escape the hell your life has become.
@IvyLeagueMetalhead: Well, I'm one of those rare heteronormative people who will tell you: hey, if you don't want kids and you don't have kids, that's cool! Because you should get to live your life, and not the life someone else came up with for you.
But I'm so sorry that your mom told you that your whole life. No kid should have to live with that, and no grown-up should have to have it knocking around inside their head.
Okay, this stuff freaks me out. I've had a very fraught relationship with my body and with sexual contact for years. I was with my boyfriend for over a year before I had the nerve to have sex for the first time (at the age of 27), and then I almost immediately and quite unexpectedly became pregnant. (Yes, we used protection. It didn't work.)
After just becoming semi-comfortable in my sexuality, everything is upended with the way my body and relationship is changing,. So I'm really just hoping that I'll find that happy medium with regards to physical intimacy once the baby is born, because it's still a struggle and I hope that having a baby will make it better and not worse.
@sarah.of.a.lesser.god.prepares.to.welcome.her.new.ovumlord: the key is to make sure that you talk about it with the father of your child, don't bottle it up. It'll be fine honestly but there will be the odd bad moment and it's important that you don't blame yourself but realise that everyone has them and it's ok.
@sarah.of.a.lesser.god.prepares.to.welcome.her.new.ovumlord: I'm sending you good thoughts and hugs. I also have a very fraught relationship with sexual contact/intimacy, and there are times when I just don't feel like I know how to exist and interact sexually with another person. but I hope your man is good to you (sorry to sound like a Beyonce song), because that will really help. I think you'll be OK. And uh, what protection did you use, if you don't mind me asking? So I can not use that-although really, anything can fail, scary as that is.
@emilyanne: I'm lucky enough to have an amazing guy by my side (and a good therapist). And I have two sisters who have been very open about their post-baby experiences, which helps a lot.
@lalaland13: Thank you, dear. I'm sorry to hear you've had some of the same feelings. I always felt so awkward and immature because of my lack of experience with intimacy. He's very good to me. We used condoms (I don't mind you asking!) and we had no clue there had been a tear.
I honestly sometimes think people should not read others experiences for help and advice and in not feeling "alone". If you're going to have children you're going to have them, and if not not, then no children. You just get through it. Sometimes these mom blogs can really freak a person out for no reason. Everyone's experience is completely unique and some advice can ultimately be stupid and have nothing to do with you.
And my children would never be allowed to throw food...anywhere!
@bettyblu: spot on, in all points, particularly about the food. My daughter has never thrown food yet but if she did we'd be out of said restaurant faster than a very fast thing.
@ellaesther: exactly. There's nothing that riles me more than irrating parents who think its ok that their devil spawn are wrecking everyone else's meal because they are 'expressing themselves', someone actually said that to me once. Once I became a mother there were things I realised I'd been harsh on parents for, poor behaviour in restaurants is not one of them.
No one has mentioned the fact that if one or two babies are sucking at your tits all day long, you may not want DH pawing at you at end of an exhausting day. That said, sex hurt like crazy for 8 mos post-Csections (2 - one was twins) but I sucked it up a once or twice a month for the sake of my cute husband, who was quite horny looking at my huge knockers.
@franimaljones: You bring up a good point, which is OVER-TOUCHING. Especially young-end toddlers are pawing you all day, and when they turn to bed and you finally exhale that you have your body to yourself the man cuddles up to you with that "how you doin'?" steeze.
My husband and I are currently hoping to get me pregnant this year. It's only been a month since I went off bc... and I think this article has brought me to the conclusion that I cannot read anything on the internet about pregnancy/fertiliity/parenting. If I believe everything the internet tells me, I only have like, a .5% chance of even getting pregnant, and IF I do it will be 9 months of hell and complications, followed by a harrowing rest of my life... which now includes no sex. Why do I want to do this so badly if it's so SUCKY?!
@AbJams: it's best to ignore it and have lots of sex, if possible drunk, filthy sex as I find that the best type for concieving. Then stay away from the net and remember that everyone's experience is different and no one knows best.
@AbJams: Here's the problem with the internet: None of us know you. We don't know your personality, your partner, your medical history, your age, your babysitting skillz. None of it. And all of this, plus way, WAY more, goes into what your pregnancy/parenting experience will be.
Also, and this is no small matter: You don't know your post-pregnancy self. All you know is what you might be losing; you can't possibly know what you'll be gaining. So of course the potential loss looks scary, and the potential gain is hard to get a bead on.
So I would say: Yes! Spurn the Internet! Unless directed there by people who know and love you and/or your health care professional. Or, at the very least, read it all through skeptical glasses. And (at the risk of sounding too cliched for words) trust your own instincts.
@AbJams: 3 months pregnant here and I curl up into a quivering ball when I read scary studies saying how EVERYTHING IS BAD FOR YOU! I have learned to rely on my doctor, my mother (although she is very neurotic) and my sisters for the best advice. And sometimes Jezebel commenters as well. :)
@AbJams: For most people it isn't. Find a practical doctor who can laugh you out of all the worries. I remember going in to mine with severe peanut butter cravings and being worried I was going to give the kid a peanut allergy. We have no family history. She was like, "Pfft, I ate vats of peanut butter when I was pregnant. Don't give it another thought." My mom also isn't neurotic, which helped. It's true, though, that you can find scary lists of things that are bad for you, but you can safely ignore most of them. Your doctor will tell you what's most important to worry about. I followed the warnings on high-mercury fish, but ignored the ones about listeria, and took prenatal vitamins. I also found out about some good substitutions. I get airsick, but Bonine is counterindicated because it can cause uterine contractions (and miscarriage). You can take Benadryl for that. Airsick remedy is always an antihistamine. The only thing I hated was not being able to take Advil. Tylenol does nothing, and I had headaches on and off all through.
@AbJams: It's not sucky! I promise you. I have little experience of course, but having a baby is wonderful even though it is sometimes really hard and exhausting. When my baby coos at me or falls asleep on my chest, I'm just so happy and grateful, and I look forward to seeing him grow into a little person.
Odds are you will get pregnant within a year. If not, fertility treatments are seriously not the end of the world (I know, I did all of them). And pregnancy can be really hard but it also has great moments. I was lucky that after a rocky and scary first trimester, my pregnancy was complication-free - so my perspecitive is a little rosy - but in reality I think most women have relatively OK pregnancies. And then you get a baby!
Ok, I've never been pregnant and i'm not married, but I need some support. My boyfriend listened to some stupid radio show that he claims backs up his claim that sex twice a day everyday is not above average.
Now, this isn't so much of a serious issue between us as it is an ongoing joke, but seriously, i'm trying to figure out at what point he can start applying for aid or something because he is sexually deprived.
What's a general average per week amongst the non-marrieds or feisty marrieds?
@AuburnPonytail: I don't have an average to offer you, but I will say that sex quotas seem to do more harm then good--the worry that you aren't doing it enough doesn't exactly create a psychological state that is conducive to wanting and enjoying sex.
If he feels sexually deprived, he should tell you. If you feel sexually deprived, you should tell him. But I wouldn't worry too much about what everyone else is doing because they aren't living your life. They might not have the same time commitments or stressors or other things like that. I say do it when you want to, don't do it when you don't want and create a sexual relationship that balances what you both want. Don't worry about attaining some general average. I think a lot of people probably lie about their sexual habits anyway, or at least exaggerate them a bit.
@30RocksMySocks: yeah, that's what I figured and we do work on it constantly. It's actually been really good for opening up our communication. I just feel guilty sometimes because he is almost constantly wanting to go and due to some medications I'm on, I'm rarely in the mood. Sometimes I just feel like a bit of a freak for not wanting it everyday. Oh well.
@AuburnPonytail: My husband and I fluctuate quite a bit in terms of how often we do it. Sometimes it's twice a day, sometimes it's once or twice a week. I'm the party who wants it all the time, so basically, I satisfy myself when he's not up for it and always feel happy when he does feel up for it. Every couple is different and every day is different for every couple. You're not a freak at all- if your partner feels like there's a problem you guys should continue to work on things. It sounds like you are communicating, so that's the most important thing! Good luck!
@AuburnPonytail: It is truly truly an individual thing. Comparing yourself to others (really in any area of life) only leads to heartache. I'm young and married and just starting to realize that sex drive ebbs and flows. Life and schedules can get in the way. Birth control pills or other meds may sap your libido. You might get sick or have a baby. The bottom line is having a partner who isn't keeping score, communicating honestly about your desires and what might help you feel more in the mood, and an understanding that being guilted about sex never puts ANYONE in the mood. These are all things I'm still learning, as we have some ongoing issues with schedules (my hubs works about 80 hours per week) and my BC killing my sex drive.
@AuburnPonytail: current relationship, at a month in: around 5 times a week, but carefully, because it hurts me and the doctors still haven't figured out why... but my sex drive is stronger, right now.
Last relationship, for the last 6 months or so of two years: once a month. before i lost libido, it was about three times a week, maybe less some weeks.
I don't know, I really think this an each to their own scenario. I appreciate some people really do have an awful time post pregnancy and then again some people just don't. I'm not going to talk about my sex life during or post child because I am, er, British except to say I never experienced any issues. Then again I have a very easy daughter or at least a daughter who seems content to explore our small appartment while mummy reads for a couple of hours a day.
I think it's a biological thing -- if you're not on the pill because you're breastfeeding, a condom is not enough to quell the fear of getting pregnant again. My second (and last, knock on wood) babe is eight months old and I'm still terrified of getting pregnant again because I think another baby would push me over the edge. Nothing kills the mood more than paranoia about having to spend yet another year of my life with an infant. Just saying.
@Elizabooth: I was so like that for months and months after having the first one. He was unexpected, and completely interrupted and derailed my life. I can't have that happen again.
@Elizabooth: My. thoughts. EXACTLY. I have an 18 mo. old and am sooooo not looking to be pregnant again any time soon. Five years from now, that will probably be a different story. Seriously though- I totally agree.
@Capital City Goofball: ugh. amen to that sister. my little-mess is 14 mos and though i love love love him dearly, i will never ever be pregnant again. i am paraniod every single time we have sex, and you cant enjoy it when youre thinking of another crying, screaming, pooping newborn.
@BeSarcastic: It's not really "things go back to normal," so much as you get a new normal. You don't stop being you, you just get to be a bigger you, a you with more facets. Most of the time, it's pretty cool.
I remember once, when my first child was a few months old, wishing I could go back and visit my old life. Not live there again, just visit. Just be in a place where I didn't need to always be aware of the needs of someone else.
But the honest truth is that that passed, truly passed. This is my life now, and it has them in it, and thank God, for they are wonderful. I wish that going to the Kaiser Chiefs the other night didn't require the finding and paying of a babysitter, but I still went, and I still pogoed.
@ellaesther: Thank you so much for this. I just wnat to know that I can be a sane, individualized person still when I have children. I don't want to be a pod mommy. I see so many brilliant women around me able to do this, so I know it can be done. I just don't know the process. I can't until I'm in it, I guess.
@BeSarcastic: Well, things won't be the same. Your body changes. My feet even grew a 1/2"...all my lovely shoes had to be donated.
You're basically saying goodbye to who you were pre-baby.
It isn't and shouldn't be for everyone. It is a sacrifice of yourself for another person. Anyone should be as realistic about that as possible before they take on parenting.
@MicknDukesMom: I agree, which is why it scares the crap outta me. I get that you have to sacrifice, but I'm of the school of thought that your entire self does not need to be obliterated in order to be a parent. Maybe I'm not being realistic.
@BeSarcastic: ellasther's right - you get a new normal. It's rough in the beginning (the first couple years), and you do mourn your loss of freedom (at least I did). But as time went on I forgot those days and did not miss them.
It never really gets easy, as much as it gets different. My sister put it best - the first few years are physically exhausting, and the rest are mentally exhausting.
There are some days when I just want to be left alone, but I think I'd feel that way regardless of the kids being around. Mine are 12 and 9 now, and they are interesting, smart, funny, sweet people. They are also periodically obnoxious, rude, smelly, annoying and loud.
@QueenOfTheForest: Mine are 12 and 9 now, and they are interesting, smart, funny, sweet people. They are also periodically obnoxious, rude, smelly, annoying and loud.
@BeSarcastic: yes you are. Of course there is some sacrifice involved but seriously your self does not have to be obliterated and I'm concerned about people who believe it does.
I love my daughter, I love looking after her and I don't mind that I have to get up at 5am to work before she wakes and then fit a couple of hours more work in around her sleep and in the evening because I can't afford a nanny and we live in a seemingly daycare free zone but I also occasionally need some time apart from her and during those times I still do pretty much what I did before I had her - eat nice food, drink, dance sometimes and talk too much.
Yes, it changes your life but it doesn't have to be this awful, scary earth shattering thing and I honestly think people can make too much of it.
@BeSarcastic: That's exactly it, I think. We live in this age where we can prepare ourselves for almost anything with more (and yet more) information, and yet you really, really can't know this one until you're in it.
@BeSarcastic: You are being completely realistic. Your child (children) don't need a pod person for their mother. They'll need a real live living breathing person with opinions and interests and points of view other than their own - not necessarily to imprint those things upon a child but to be there as a sounding board, whathaveyou.
Sacrifice? Hell yes. Resignation to being a non-entity? HELL NO.
@ellaesther: There is entirely too much information available on the interwebs and it freaks a prospective parent out. Seriously.
I just need to know that my life will grow and change, but that it will be the same too. That I won't be giving up everything I've strived so far for just to replace it with something else.
There is something to be said for the way my grandparents parented. That's the kind of parent I want to be. Available, loving, wise, but totally into living my own life and not getting completely swallowed up by my kids. Helicopter parenting, do not want.
And that's what I worry will happen. I will feel so responsible and so consumed, that I'll even ignore my sex life.
@KittyConner: There is something to be said for the way my grandparents parented. That's the kind of parent I want to be. Available, loving, wise, but totally into living my own life and not getting completely swallowed up by my kids. Helicopter parenting, do not want.
A million times YES. It looks like, from what the mothers here are saying, it's possible. Harder, maybe, but entirely possible.
@BeSarcastic: It won't be the same, but a lot of the things that are different, you can decide won't be. I knew a lot of moms who seemed to have dropped all of their non-mom personality after having kids, and after that, it was nothing but cute kid anecdotes, cute kid pictures, bitching about momming, and asking when the rest of us were having children. Which makes you feel like being, fucking never, after listening to you! So I made up my mind that I wouldn't be like that, because I have hobbies and a job I love and a whole personality. And there are times, especially in the early going, when the momming eats you alive because all you have energy for is sleep and taking care of the kid. But that wears off. I used to stack up trashy novels to read in the night when I was breastfeeding. That made me feel so much more human. Then I got TiVo so I could still catch the shows I like, since an infant is weird hours and I was always missing things. And finally, I went back to work part-time and started thinking about my career. Now I'm busy as hell, but I feel like me. And my kid is like me, too, with a big imagination and a love of books, and that helps a lot. That's the thing no one tells you: your kid doesn't have to be like all other kids. Your kid will be like you, and whatever goes on in your house is what's normal to him.
@BeSarcastic: I feel bad because I bitch about it a lot, but the good parts of momming rarely translate well to screen. He's very cute, and has a sweet temperament, and he makes me remember good things about my own childhood, like Sesame Street Old School. He likes to do things adults rarely do, like sing and color and have tickle fights. He asks funny questions. He gives good hugs. Having him makes me feel whole, when I didn't even know that I didn't feel whole before. And raising him isn't brain surgery; it's an endurance game. It's good if you can afford a couple of days of playschool, if you were planning to stay at home. It's nice to count on kid-free time to do errands or work part-time or sleep. Balance is everything.
I don't think this is just a concern for women post pregnancy. Different people react to different hardships, hormonal changes, periods of stress, periods of elation, all sorts of life events and changes, differently. How you deal with things in your life and in your physical well being can really have a significant impact on your both your desire and ability to be sexually active. To pose this post as "here are some comments that are really depressing vs ones that are really great" seems a bit too judgmental to me. It places too much subjective value on other people's sex lives and implies that you know what they are experiencing when really you can't possibly know.
The message of every woman and every body is different is a good one, though, so thank you for including that.
I'm not really sure what my point is, except that maybe part of what could make some of these things so difficult for these women is the idea that other people can make subjective judgments about their lives. I wouldn't want anyone judging my sex life and so I don't share it with anyone, not even close friends. It's between me and my partner. Yes these women opened themselves up and shared, but I think because they were looking for people to say, things will get better, or this is totally normal, or hey I experienced something similar, here's a tip. I doubt they talked about these things so a blog could write a post and say "oh that's so depressing."
@KathrynwithaY loves Joan Collins: vasline, apply it daily from about five months on in addition to massage if poss. Seriously it's an old English 1940s tip given to a friend of mine by her grandmother, everyone I know who got pregnant followed it, no one tore anything.
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"It's like I've forgotten that part of my life and I don't miss it other than thinking that I should."
She's not having sex because she doesn't WANT to be having sex. She is not sad about not having sex, she feels guilty about not having sex which is completely different.
I think this is somehow indicative of the insane emphasis and unrealistic expectations we put on marriage/long-term relationships. She had a BABY, really not that long ago, but somehow her life is not valid unless she's boning her man? She can't possibly be happy?
For the record, I'm childless and still loving sex, but this judgement just seems wrong.
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Women's bodies were engineered to carry babies, have babies, and make milk. Women who choose not to do that - cool! But most women do all of those things, and their bodies respond in kind. Without wanting to sound like a hippie, the whole messy business is (ahem) natural.
A grown woman doesn't look like a 16 year old. A grown woman who is pregnant or nursing or had a baby doesn't look, smell, or sound (pregnancy farts, anyone?) like a 16 year old. Nor does she have sex like a 16 year old. Or like a grown woman who has done none of those things.
Remember that wonderful post last week about being today's biscuit? [jezebel.com] Today doesn't get anymore today-ish (talk about making up words!) than when you've had a baby.
We must all be our own biscuits!
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I am confident this will change by the time pregnancy rolls around (give or take 10 years), not unlike his views on breastfeeding have changed since he was 17. Bless him. He better get over it. -_-
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But I'm so sorry that your mom told you that your whole life. No kid should have to live with that, and no grown-up should have to have it knocking around inside their head.
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After just becoming semi-comfortable in my sexuality, everything is upended with the way my body and relationship is changing,. So I'm really just hoping that I'll find that happy medium with regards to physical intimacy once the baby is born, because it's still a struggle and I hope that having a baby will make it better and not worse.
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@lalaland13: Thank you, dear. I'm sorry to hear you've had some of the same feelings. I always felt so awkward and immature because of my lack of experience with intimacy. He's very good to me. We used condoms (I don't mind you asking!) and we had no clue there had been a tear.
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Also, and this is no small matter: You don't know your post-pregnancy self. All you know is what you might be losing; you can't possibly know what you'll be gaining. So of course the potential loss looks scary, and the potential gain is hard to get a bead on.
So I would say: Yes! Spurn the Internet! Unless directed there by people who know and love you and/or your health care professional. Or, at the very least, read it all through skeptical glasses. And (at the risk of sounding too cliched for words) trust your own instincts.
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Odds are you will get pregnant within a year. If not, fertility treatments are seriously not the end of the world (I know, I did all of them). And pregnancy can be really hard but it also has great moments. I was lucky that after a rocky and scary first trimester, my pregnancy was complication-free - so my perspecitive is a little rosy - but in reality I think most women have relatively OK pregnancies. And then you get a baby!
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Now, this isn't so much of a serious issue between us as it is an ongoing joke, but seriously, i'm trying to figure out at what point he can start applying for aid or something because he is sexually deprived.
What's a general average per week amongst the non-marrieds or feisty marrieds?
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If he feels sexually deprived, he should tell you. If you feel sexually deprived, you should tell him. But I wouldn't worry too much about what everyone else is doing because they aren't living your life. They might not have the same time commitments or stressors or other things like that. I say do it when you want to, don't do it when you don't want and create a sexual relationship that balances what you both want. Don't worry about attaining some general average. I think a lot of people probably lie about their sexual habits anyway, or at least exaggerate them a bit.
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Last relationship, for the last 6 months or so of two years: once a month. before i lost libido, it was about three times a week, maybe less some weeks.
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I'm so on the fence about the children thing.
Also? Sometimes "trying to get in the mood" is the same as getting into the mood. For me. I imagine it will be the same, post-baby.
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I remember once, when my first child was a few months old, wishing I could go back and visit my old life. Not live there again, just visit. Just be in a place where I didn't need to always be aware of the needs of someone else.
But the honest truth is that that passed, truly passed. This is my life now, and it has them in it, and thank God, for they are wonderful. I wish that going to the Kaiser Chiefs the other night didn't require the finding and paying of a babysitter, but I still went, and I still pogoed.
And now my kids like the Kaiser Chiefs.
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You're basically saying goodbye to who you were pre-baby.
It isn't and shouldn't be for everyone. It is a sacrifice of yourself for another person. Anyone should be as realistic about that as possible before they take on parenting.
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It never really gets easy, as much as it gets different. My sister put it best - the first few years are physically exhausting, and the rest are mentally exhausting.
There are some days when I just want to be left alone, but I think I'd feel that way regardless of the kids being around. Mine are 12 and 9 now, and they are interesting, smart, funny, sweet people. They are also periodically obnoxious, rude, smelly, annoying and loud.
Hell, we all have our days, right?
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This is great -- thank you. :)
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I love my daughter, I love looking after her and I don't mind that I have to get up at 5am to work before she wakes and then fit a couple of hours more work in around her sleep and in the evening because I can't afford a nanny and we live in a seemingly daycare free zone but I also occasionally need some time apart from her and during those times I still do pretty much what I did before I had her - eat nice food, drink, dance sometimes and talk too much.
Yes, it changes your life but it doesn't have to be this awful, scary earth shattering thing and I honestly think people can make too much of it.
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Sacrifice? Hell yes. Resignation to being a non-entity? HELL NO.
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I just need to know that my life will grow and change, but that it will be the same too. That I won't be giving up everything I've strived so far for just to replace it with something else.
There is something to be said for the way my grandparents parented. That's the kind of parent I want to be. Available, loving, wise, but totally into living my own life and not getting completely swallowed up by my kids. Helicopter parenting, do not want.
And that's what I worry will happen. I will feel so responsible and so consumed, that I'll even ignore my sex life.
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A million times YES. It looks like, from what the mothers here are saying, it's possible. Harder, maybe, but entirely possible.
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The message of every woman and every body is different is a good one, though, so thank you for including that.
I'm not really sure what my point is, except that maybe part of what could make some of these things so difficult for these women is the idea that other people can make subjective judgments about their lives. I wouldn't want anyone judging my sex life and so I don't share it with anyone, not even close friends. It's between me and my partner. Yes these women opened themselves up and shared, but I think because they were looking for people to say, things will get better, or this is totally normal, or hey I experienced something similar, here's a tip. I doubt they talked about these things so a blog could write a post and say "oh that's so depressing."
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Yep. I'm queasy at the thought of my snooch tearing like tissue paper and having to be Frankensutured back together...gaaahhhhhhh!
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11/25/08
I appreciate this woman's honest because it cements some of my reservations about having children.