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    Image of I, Zombie Normal I, Zombie Normal
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    Oh, I sent this link! Thank you Jezebel for covering this, and bringing attention to this despicable site, so that we can be vigilant in preventing its return, and use this as conversation starter. Because the thought that people think this is funny and no big deal is not encouraging.


    The other night when I read the comments on this article I was really upset.

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    Image of MissFiFi MissFiFi
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    Glad it is down, but sad others want to post it back up.

    And to be regionally racist, why am I not shocked this was in Texas???
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    02/26/09

    @MissFiFi: Well the guy who campaigned to shut it down is from Texas.
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    Image of colormeroutine colormeroutine
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    While that site is disturbing, in general I'm ok with calling those shirts wife beaters. Mainly because I find that anyone who routinely walks around in them is pretty much a complete douchebag, so they serve as a nice little warning flag
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    Regarding this garment:


    My mom: I hate that it's called a wife beater now. That's horrible. So offensive and so unacceptable.


    My brother: That's what I call it.


    Mom: You WILL NOT call it that in this house.


    Brother: Then what do I say that WOULDN'T be offensive.


    Mom: (completely without irony) It's a guinea tee.

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    02/26/09

    @LaComtesse: Oh, mom!
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    02/26/09

    @ellaesther: Oh those whacky I-talians...
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    02/26/09

    @LaComtesse: I don't get it? Like, from New Guinea? Is it a racist thing that I've never heard of?
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    02/26/09

    @gobblegirl: It's an old school slur against Italians (or maybe specifically Italian-Americans? dunno).
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    02/26/09

    @gobblegirl: It's a slur against Italian Americans, which we are. I've also heard them called "dego tees," again, an anti- Italian-American slur.
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    Image of Little Green Frog (Wise Latina) Little Green Frog (Wise Latina)
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    Have you all seen the comments on the article?


    People are attacking him for doing that, and even offering to host the site somewhere else. Here is his response (I took out the email address):


    I invite all of you people who disagree with me, to be married for 30 years to a woman who was married to two wife beaters, and who suffered from the battered woman syndrome. That was in the days when police and society looked at domestic violence as a private matter, not a criminal matter. Many women were killed because of societies stupidity.

    Feminism and profound love and respect are what keeps my marriage alive for 30 years. I also do not drink anything alcoholic and I hate football and boxing because they are too violent. If anyone wishes to discuss this matter, please contact me at xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com

    Macho men who find violence acceptable need psychiatrists. I am a proud feminist and athiest. The reason why Mr. Doolin's site was taken down is because he violated CBeyonds agreement, which he signed and accepted.

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    Image of NefariousNewt NefariousNewt
    02/26/09

    @Little Green Frog: OK, then I have a mission -- to keep an eye out for the reappearance of this domain name. Anyone else out there gets the bright idea to host this site, I will alert the media.
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    Image of TurtleSpeak TurtleSpeak
    02/26/09

    @Little Green Frog: Wow this man is awesome. I'm glad Jezebel has decided to focus on the positive... when I heard about the site yesterday I damn near popped a blood vessel.
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    02/26/09

    @Little Green Frog: Awww! I lovies him!
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    Image of DutchessOfDork DutchessOfDork
    02/26/09

    @Little Green Frog: Dear Patrick Greene,

    I knight thee Sir Patrick.

    Though, this is North America so you cannot throw that title around. But it's fun to tell your friends!
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    02/26/09

    @Little Green Frog: Yeah, I'm just shocked at how many people are attacking him. Apparently someone knew him and threw the "attack" that he was an athiest and so should be despised. It's so weird. Like being an atheist makes him evil, but rewarding wife-beaters is good.
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    Image of DutchessOfDork DutchessOfDork
    02/26/09

    @desertbloom79:

    People are villifying that man and they have no just cause to do so. So what he's an atheist?


    "So, Mr. Greene. How about deciding to do something REALLY useful like shutting down the child porn sites.


    Or maybe that's not offensive enough for you to crusade against....."

    - Completely uncalled for. And stupid. I think shutting down these offensive sites are useful.

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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    02/26/09

    @desertbloom79: Welcome to Dallas.


    @DutchessOfDork: "So, Mr. Greene. How about deciding to do something REALLY useful like shutting down the child porn sites.


    Or maybe that's not offensive enough for you to crusade against....."


    Sad to say, but I've seen similar arguments crop up pretty regularly on Jez when a cause isn't deemed "important enough" to merit such a fuss. See: animal rights, fur, bad behavior by Obama staffers.

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    Image of hellosunshine hellosunshine
    02/26/09

    @yvanehtnioj: Please remember that some of us Dallasites are awesome, Fort Worthie!
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    02/26/09

    @tinycowboyhats: Oh I know. But that "this guy [who did something wonderful and compassionate] is a LOSER because he's an ATHEIST unlike me [unaccountabley vile, vitriolic jerkwad who thinks violence against women is an effective sales technique], because I'm a Christian. It says so right on my bumper sticker!" nonsense is part of why I left.


    I meant Dallas as DFW, I don't actually think Ft. Worth is noticably better in this regard. You know I love you.

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    Image of whynotshesaid whynotshesaid
    02/26/09

    @Little Green Frog: I just sent him an email of thanks. I was avoiding the comments - as I normally do, as they are like the septic tanks of public discourse - so I appreciate you letting us know his email was out there.
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    Image of Fridge Hussy : Is finally heading back to uni! Fridge Hussy : Is finally heading back to uni!
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    Round these parts, we call 'em SINGLETS. Also, Patrick Greene is my new hero.
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    Image of sassy sassy
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    Why would anyone think that website was a good idea? Even if they just meant it in a humorous way?

    It's time like this that I wish Elliot Stabler was real, so he could go hurt people.
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    Image of PrettyPrettyPrincess PrettyPrettyPrincess
    02/26/09

    @sassy wants her own tenth Doctor: I am not sure HOW they could have meant it in a humorous way, since they were offering discounts to customers who could prove they were convicted of domestic abuse. I can't even imagine how that could be humorous.... Unless the site was SERCRETLY run by a pack of vigilante feminazi boner-killers out to collect the names of abusive men?!?!?!?! That would be funny.
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    Image of hellosunshine hellosunshine
    02/26/09

    @sassy wants her own tenth Doctor: I do too, so I could sex him up good.


    What were we talking about?

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    Image of RedHotz RedHotz
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    WTF?!? What kind of disgusting human glorifies the abuse of women? I would so love to give Patrick Greene a hug and buy him a drink.
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    02/26/09

    @RedHotz: Seriously. This guy should get free drinks for life.
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    Image of NefariousNewt NefariousNewt
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    When reached on Tuesday, business owner James Doolin did not provide a comment about the closure of the site.


    And let's hope it stays that way. There's nothing this shit-for-brains has to say that I want to hear.

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    Image of ellaesther ellaesther
    02/26/09

    @NefariousNewt: Well. "I'm really sorry and have learned the error of my ways" would be ok. And bonus points for "I'm donating my profits to the nearest women's shelter."
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    Image of BabyJane BabyJane
    02/26/09

    @ellaesther: "And I punched myself in the head for being such a nitwit."
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    Image of NefariousNewt NefariousNewt
    02/26/09

    @ellaesther: Do you honestly think a guy like that is going to have an epiphany now and do just that? In my experience, any guy who goes to that length to put his misogyny out there like that isn't going to change his tune without the subtle application of a crowbar to his head.
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    02/26/09

    @NefariousNewt: Oh no, no, don't be silly! I'm just sayin'.
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    If Patrick Greene looks anything like Patrick Fitzgerald, sorry, Boyfriend. I'm moving to Texas.
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    Image of RosemaryF RosemaryF
    02/26/09

    @morninggloria: It's never a bad idea to move to Texas. I'm just sayin'.
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    Image of lalaland13 lalaland13
    02/26/09

    @morninggloria: Not if I get there first! And I'm from Texas, so there!


    Kidding aside, I don't know that I met any guys like this in Texas. If I did, they were gay. Of course, I also never lived in a big city.

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    Image of 18thfloor 18thfloor
    02/26/09

    @RosemaryF: Right. I'm just glad Texas is actually getting good press for a change! Normally, there's some backwoods moron (ahem Bush) giving us all a bad name!
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    02/26/09

    @morninggloria: Sorry MoGlo, you'll have to fight some Texas Jezzies for him!
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    02/26/09

    @18thfloor: Right? I'll ignore the fact that these douchenozzles were Dallas-based and instead focus on "yay awesome Texas guy!"
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    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    I have a very good, very very feminist (female) friend who looks great in this type of undershirt. And calls them wife-beaters. It is about the only thing I don't like about her -- man, she totally rocks! -- but it's so egregious that I don't even know what to say!
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    Image of kaiwhakamarie kaiwhakamarie
    02/26/09

    @ellaesther:


    I used to call them that, too. Without really thinking about what it meant. I'd been hearing them referred to as 'wifebeaters' for so long that I didn't even think twice. I wonder where that originated, anyway?


    I work part time at a retail outlet and one of my co-workers was suggesting an undershirt to a customer, and said, 'Try on that red wifebeater, it'll look good on you'. And the customer was like, 'the red WHAT?' She had honestly never heard of the term and was completely appalled.

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    Image of lilbobbytables lilbobbytables
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    Good on him! It is inspiring to hear about him fighting against the site and what it stands for, although it is disheartening to hear that the site in the first place. It helps restore my faith in people, knowing that there are men and women who are appalled by such sites/behavior, and are working towards making things better. Good on you, Patrick Greene. And thank you.
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    "The Web site sold white tank tops, commonly referred to as "wife-beaters," and gave a discount to anyone who could prove they were convicted of wife beating."


    What. The. Fuck.


    Patrick Green: well done, sir! A shining example of how feminism need not be limited by gender. I say we make him an official Jezebeau... or Jezefella... Jezeboy? What say the men of Jezebel? What's the preferred term?

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    Image of missteenwordpower missteenwordpower
    02/26/09

    @LaComtesse: "Jezebeau" is nice for its relation to "Jezebelle". Plus, cutesy!
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    Image of Shamrockette Shamrockette
    02/26/09

    @LaComtesse: I honestly don't know. We don't have one, I think.


    But I like Jezebeau.

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    02/26/09

    @Shamrockette: Jezebeau, or Jeze-dude. either one is fine.
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    02/26/09

    @LaComtesse: my vote is for jezebeau!
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    Image of NefariousNewt NefariousNewt
    02/26/09

    @LaComtesse: Jezebeau works. Also Jezedude. Or in my case, Jezedroid.
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    02/26/09

    @missteenwordpower is your sexy Ms. Magoo.: @Shamrockette: @NefariousNewt: @PacoHertez: Jezebeau FTW.
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    Image of hortense hortense
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    Not only is it a terrible, disgusting idea, but who buys wife-beaters online? You can get them at Target, under the appropriate name: undershirts.
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    02/26/09

    @hortense: And again: capitalism using violence for a profit.
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    02/26/09

    @hortense: Target doesn't give you a discount for being an actual wife beater. Which is the point in the story where my HEAD EXPLODED.
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    Image of Karenka Karenka
    02/26/09

    In reply to Wife-Beater Website Shut Down
    Patrick Greene, who has for weeks searched for a way to remove the site from the Internet, said he was pleased that the site was removed. 'I felt like I was helping thousands of women, he said.


    Aw, this guy made my day :)

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    02/26/09

    @Karenka: I know! I want to high five him! Or buy him a coffee!
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