Yes I'd love to tour the Southland
In a traveling minstrel show
Yes I'm dying to be a star and make them laugh
Sound just like a record on the phonograph
Those days are gone forever
Over a long time ago, oh yeah
@sassyredhead:
Well, I've seen 'em on the TV, the movie show
They say the times are changing, but I just don't know
These things are gone forever
Over a long time ago, oh yeah
And they remain fitting ...
(Seriously, did you ever see "China Syndrome" on DVD or TV? Michael Douglas was gorgeous -- I think I crushed on him all the way from that up through the Gekko portrayal. I was a scrap, and my parents were activist-ish, so a lot of that stuff was in the house (although I don't recommend showing the average 15-year-old "FailSafe"), and I think he was my first real H-wood-esque crushy-crush, along with Prince. I liked them older but shouty and shooting off sparks, I guess.)
@Rooo sez BISH PLZ: China Syndrome is a seriously wonderful movie. I am old enough to have seen it in the theaters right around the time of Three Mile Island, which of course was very freaky. Michael Douglas was a sight, though I was more into Jane Fonda (and of course Jack Lemmon acted circles around them both). Fail-Safe is another favorite flick, with Larry Hagman providing the eye candy, if you must.
@Rooo sez BISH PLZ: I'm old enough to remember Streets of San Francisco...he was super foxy in that. But I also have a thing for older, loud and activist-ish men.
@DuckDuckGoose: I did indeed must. I was swooning through my tears.
And Walter Matthau too, in a crooked, evil way.
(I'm a professor's kid; I'm prone. What can I say.)
@sassyredhead: I think you and my mom would get along well. When we watched "China Syndrome", she said "He was also in Streets of San Francisco", and since Nick at Nite and the Action Channel and all those didn't have those in round-the-clock syndication yet, I had to squint at her and say "What is that?" and she just rolled her eyes.
Of course, this is the woman who hooked me on Mission Impossible in the original B&W, so I spent much too much money just to see Vanessa Redgrave, Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Jonathan Rhys Meyers and wish I was Thandie Newton.
On the main page, I thought that this was Benjamin Bratt (ladyboner rising... rising...)
-- but then I clicked on it, and it was Shia LeBeouf (ladyboner hides).
Between this and Indiana Jones, it seems Shia has certainly monopolized the sought-after "apprentice to sextagenarian men earning a paycheck by making a sequel to a 20-year-old movie" niche. Good job, Shia!
@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit): Honestly? I can't wait to see what they're going to come up with.
Is Oliver going to direct? Did Gekko do time, or did he plead out? Did Kate divorce him?
Inquiring minds want to knooooooww!
@Rooo sez BISH PLZ: As far as I know, Oliver Stone is directing this one as well. I'm curious about it too, but it kind of cracked me up that Shia seems to have the same basic role in this as he did in Indy 4l
@#c15871699: The film is set 20 years after the first film, in June 2008. Gordon Gekko (Michael Douglas) has just been released from his prison sentence of 20 years. More at [en.wikipedia.org]
@Rooo sez BISH PLZ: They even did it with Newman/Cruise in The Color of Money. Yeah, nothing was going to convince me Tommy boy would be the next Paul Newman.
@DuckDuckGoose: No way. I am so hooked right now.
Thanks for the link! That cast looks killer. I would watch Frank Langella read the phone book. And Susan too -- I saw her on B'way and she is even more ridiculous live than she is on film. Unbelievable.
And Stewart is going to do the score again!
*swoons*
I've decided, erroneously or otherwise, that whomever feels the need to comment "eeeuw, gross, he's old enough to be her dad" has some serious "daddy issues" which should be resolved.
Consenting adults well past the age of adulthood AND! I doubt such comments would be applied if Zeta were his age and Douglas were here age - you'd be fucking cheering.
Maggie Gyllenhaal's comment really is obnoxious - she neglected to mention that Emma Thompson is not just "acting with" her. Thomspon is also executive producer of the film, and co-wrote the screenplay, so her input is not simply as a co-star, but as a woman who has very firm ideas on how the film should be.
@heykoukla: Thank you, so I'm not alone in going 'eh?' to that comment. It's both rather arrogant - there's not one actor she'd accept notes from! And hearing that Thompson's executive producer and writer adds a lot to this annoyance of mine - and it rather pointedly underscores Emma's age. It could be a context/how I'm hearing it issue, of course, but... I wrinkled my nose. I don't like the "Oh, I'll deign to accept it from her... she's old and experienced."
It's strange, I used to really like Maggie Gyllenhaal, but I swear everything I've read over the last year or so has made me want to smack her.
In answer to ampersandparade-I'm not an "army brat",I'm an education brat.
My father sets up education in programmes in developing countries,so I was born in Uganda,just as Idi Amin came to power.Then we moved to Lesotho,where we lived for eight years and where I went to school.It is a very small,independent nation with a black African government and a black royal family,and surrounded by the Orange Free State one of the most Afrikaaner of states, so I grew up in an independant black nation,under apartheid.
Then back to Uganda, where we lived in the middle of nowhere, with intermittent electricity and no running water- the lorry would bring water every day from the papyrus swamp and we would fill the bath and it was sponge baths and flushing the toilet once a day. We were the only white children some of the children in the village had ever seen- they would mob us in the market,pinching our skin and pulling hair-I'm very blonde.
Then back to South Africa and living in Cape Town.
I then went to university in England and studied Italian and English and then I spent two years in Florence, then Paris and now I live between Geneva(reluctantly)Paris and Berlin(yeah!!)
I normally spend time between two cities in a week but it's not unusual to spend time between three.
Having that kind of upbringing does mark and change you.It's only now,I'm almost forty, that I've come to realize what a privilege it is.
I've always felt extremely rootless and I went to boarding school very young and I really feel that my parents sacrificed any life we had as a family to their careers and to our education ( try having a father who is an education evangelist!),it took me a very long time to come to terms with that.
I've never stopped travelling,I've travelled all over Asia,Africa and Europe.
It is the most amazing education,the most amazing exposure to different cultures,different languages, different view points and mores,it really does open your mind.
What it taught me more than anything was that you can change things,my grandfather was a gas fitter in South London,my grandmother was housewife,she won a scholarship to continue at school but was told there wasn't enough money for her uniform so she had to leave school.
My father was the first person in his family to go university and then my brother and I automatically went - my brother to Oxford.You can change your destiny! I speak three languages,I'm pretty much at home wherever I go, because I learned to take my home with me,it's inside of me.
It's an odd upbringing, being dragged around the world and never really having a choice about it - as I said I've finally come to terms with it and relish it but at the same time it is very hard to be so rootless.
The Jolie-Pitts seem to travel as a family and the children see their siblings and are with one or both parents, if they have that kind of support I can only think that an upbringing like this is a good thing
"It's the first time Zahara has been back since her adoption"
Maybe I'm touchy but that really sounds like people consider her a "lended child". Should we really keep a clock on when she's back on birth soil? Her place is with her mom & dad, wherever they are.
@Kali Mama: Also, she can't be more than, what, 5? 6? What would be the point of bringing her back to visit at 3 or 4 when at best she may only have the foggiest snippets of memory of the trip?
I wonder what home life is like for the Jolie-Pitt children. I'm not usually terribly fascinated with celebrity lives; celebrities live in a world I have no interest of being a part of, as I don't think "being glamorous" should be a credential necessary to leverage one's self professionally. And I certainly could care less about their children, which crosses a weird line I'm not comfortable with, since if I had kids I wouldn't want strangers knowing what their faces were, around the world. But to be so constantly in transit must be surreal, and very strange. I think it's wonderful that these kids have a home, and especially with parents who are genuinely intelligent and liberal and will teach them things that will be useful, about the world and fairness and things like that. But do the children ever feel a bit place-less, for lack of a better word? I remember moving very often as a child, traveling an awful lot as well, and it making me very uncomfortable; I've spent most of my years as an adult trying to reclaim that sense of security, that feeling of being grounded I never really had before. And we just traveled around the south! I cannot imagine the experience of waking up as a five year old in Asia and Africa and Europe, and it being treated as a normal way of living. It just seems strange, but I imagine in many ways it's educational and will serve them well as adults, perhaps give them an even greater wonder about the foreign world than I had being stationary in these United States.
That being said, I imagine they have a lovely family dynamic, and I pass no judgment or condemnation on them as people, since that sort of thing isn't really even my business. I'm just curious for what that is like for a child, and how that must feel, as someone who wants a few mini-people of my own in a few years. Perhaps some Jezzies who are children of military personnel can share some correlating insight, unless there are children of international celebrities posting here as well.
That Gyllenhaal quote is genuinely fascinating, as is our collective response to it. I think the assessment that there's something a bit odd and stilted about her description of Thompson is dead on, but it's not entirely a slam either. One can sense genuine respect, and even a kind of envy for Thompson in her words.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with simply acknowledging that a colleague is older and more experienced. Gyllenhaal didn't express the idea with much elegance, but I can't be contemptuous of her for stating the fact. Being fifty isn't something to be ashamed of, or something to hide. It's frankly amazing. Describing someone as fifty years old is not an insult. It would be amusingly hypocritical of me to castigate Gyllenhaal for that.
But what is genuinely odd is her admission that she would not allow another actor to give her advice. That is bloody strange. Surely anyone working in a creative field would be eager for any useful feedback. I know there are times when it is a distraction, but a film is a collaborative effort, not a solo exercise. I mean, I know how it can sometimes be irritating when people offer unsolicited advice. When I'm making soup, my sister constantly hovers over my shoulder and tells me it needs more salt, and I want to gut her. But if I were working in a kitchen with other professional chefs, even legendary ones, their input and well-trained palate would be a fantastic resource to mine. Gyllenhaal's prickly insistence that she does not allow advice is, well, rather silly, isn't it?
@Harlot Brontë: :) may i butt in? in the world of acting, it can be very disruptive and inappropriate for an actor to give another actor notes. only a director should give an actor notes. or perhaps that actor's coach. it can only be someone of authority. there are so many reasons why - for instance, one actor may give notes to a fellow actor that conflict with the director's notes. or, it may interfere with one actor's process. there are ways to collaborate on a scene together but in the end, actors should not give each other notes in a professional environment. the director will step in if needed. however, if i were maggie, i would take notes from someone venerable and much older. it's sort of...an exception to a rule.
10/07/09
10/07/09
In a traveling minstrel show
Yes I'm dying to be a star and make them laugh
Sound just like a record on the phonograph
Those days are gone forever
Over a long time ago, oh yeah
And the lyrics are so fitting.
10/07/09
Well, I've seen 'em on the TV, the movie show
They say the times are changing, but I just don't know
These things are gone forever
Over a long time ago, oh yeah
And they remain fitting ...
(Seriously, did you ever see "China Syndrome" on DVD or TV? Michael Douglas was gorgeous -- I think I crushed on him all the way from that up through the Gekko portrayal. I was a scrap, and my parents were activist-ish, so a lot of that stuff was in the house (although I don't recommend showing the average 15-year-old "FailSafe"), and I think he was my first real H-wood-esque crushy-crush, along with Prince. I liked them older but shouty and shooting off sparks, I guess.)
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10/07/09
And Walter Matthau too, in a crooked, evil way.
(I'm a professor's kid; I'm prone. What can I say.)
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10/07/09
Of course, this is the woman who hooked me on Mission Impossible in the original B&W, so I spent much too much money just to see Vanessa Redgrave, Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Jonathan Rhys Meyers and wish I was Thandie Newton.
10/07/09
-- but then I clicked on it, and it was Shia LeBeouf (ladyboner hides).
10/07/09
10/07/09
*seethes*
10/07/09
10/07/09
Is Oliver going to direct? Did Gekko do time, or did he plead out? Did Kate divorce him?
Inquiring minds want to knooooooww!
10/07/09
10/07/09
10/07/09
The sexagenarians seem to take it as their privilege to tap the "next one with potential". I flash back to "Two for the Money" and "The Recruit."
But I think I'd rather watch whatever they come up with instead of "Transformers."
10/07/09
10/07/09
A clear liquor girl, I tried my first whiskey because I said to myself, "Well, if Eddie were here, he'd probably tell me to ..."
(I think I actually also read somewhere that was Tom's idea; he's like the sexagenarian in reverse. He wanted to work with all the great actors.)
10/07/09
Thanks for the link! That cast looks killer. I would watch Frank Langella read the phone book. And Susan too -- I saw her on B'way and she is even more ridiculous live than she is on film. Unbelievable.
And Stewart is going to do the score again!
*swoons*
09/26/09
Consenting adults well past the age of adulthood AND! I doubt such comments would be applied if Zeta were his age and Douglas were here age - you'd be fucking cheering.
Knock it off!
that is all
09/25/09
09/25/09
09/16/09
telling a cop to lower his voice is unforgivable diddy. see what i did there?
09/16/09
09/16/09
It's strange, I used to really like Maggie Gyllenhaal, but I swear everything I've read over the last year or so has made me want to smack her.
Also: Emma Thompson is a goddess.
09/16/09
My father sets up education in programmes in developing countries,so I was born in Uganda,just as Idi Amin came to power.Then we moved to Lesotho,where we lived for eight years and where I went to school.It is a very small,independent nation with a black African government and a black royal family,and surrounded by the Orange Free State one of the most Afrikaaner of states, so I grew up in an independant black nation,under apartheid.
Then back to Uganda, where we lived in the middle of nowhere, with intermittent electricity and no running water- the lorry would bring water every day from the papyrus swamp and we would fill the bath and it was sponge baths and flushing the toilet once a day. We were the only white children some of the children in the village had ever seen- they would mob us in the market,pinching our skin and pulling hair-I'm very blonde.
Then back to South Africa and living in Cape Town.
I then went to university in England and studied Italian and English and then I spent two years in Florence, then Paris and now I live between Geneva(reluctantly)Paris and Berlin(yeah!!)
I normally spend time between two cities in a week but it's not unusual to spend time between three.
Having that kind of upbringing does mark and change you.It's only now,I'm almost forty, that I've come to realize what a privilege it is.
I've always felt extremely rootless and I went to boarding school very young and I really feel that my parents sacrificed any life we had as a family to their careers and to our education ( try having a father who is an education evangelist!),it took me a very long time to come to terms with that.
I've never stopped travelling,I've travelled all over Asia,Africa and Europe.
It is the most amazing education,the most amazing exposure to different cultures,different languages, different view points and mores,it really does open your mind.
What it taught me more than anything was that you can change things,my grandfather was a gas fitter in South London,my grandmother was housewife,she won a scholarship to continue at school but was told there wasn't enough money for her uniform so she had to leave school.
My father was the first person in his family to go university and then my brother and I automatically went - my brother to Oxford.You can change your destiny! I speak three languages,I'm pretty much at home wherever I go, because I learned to take my home with me,it's inside of me.
It's an odd upbringing, being dragged around the world and never really having a choice about it - as I said I've finally come to terms with it and relish it but at the same time it is very hard to be so rootless.
The Jolie-Pitts seem to travel as a family and the children see their siblings and are with one or both parents, if they have that kind of support I can only think that an upbringing like this is a good thing
09/16/09
Maybe I'm touchy but that really sounds like people consider her a "lended child". Should we really keep a clock on when she's back on birth soil? Her place is with her mom & dad, wherever they are.
09/16/09
09/15/09
That being said, I imagine they have a lovely family dynamic, and I pass no judgment or condemnation on them as people, since that sort of thing isn't really even my business. I'm just curious for what that is like for a child, and how that must feel, as someone who wants a few mini-people of my own in a few years. Perhaps some Jezzies who are children of military personnel can share some correlating insight, unless there are children of international celebrities posting here as well.
09/15/09
if you have boobs you "don't like".
Stay well!
09/15/09
09/15/09
There is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with simply acknowledging that a colleague is older and more experienced. Gyllenhaal didn't express the idea with much elegance, but I can't be contemptuous of her for stating the fact. Being fifty isn't something to be ashamed of, or something to hide. It's frankly amazing. Describing someone as fifty years old is not an insult. It would be amusingly hypocritical of me to castigate Gyllenhaal for that.
But what is genuinely odd is her admission that she would not allow another actor to give her advice. That is bloody strange. Surely anyone working in a creative field would be eager for any useful feedback. I know there are times when it is a distraction, but a film is a collaborative effort, not a solo exercise. I mean, I know how it can sometimes be irritating when people offer unsolicited advice. When I'm making soup, my sister constantly hovers over my shoulder and tells me it needs more salt, and I want to gut her. But if I were working in a kitchen with other professional chefs, even legendary ones, their input and well-trained palate would be a fantastic resource to mine. Gyllenhaal's prickly insistence that she does not allow advice is, well, rather silly, isn't it?
09/15/09