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Male Writer Likes Women's "Soul And Strength, Toughness And Vulnerability"
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02/18/09
This is objectification. Well, I think it is. These kinda of people don't regard women (or whatever group they're fetishizing and waxing poetic about) as "real" people, but as a stereotype. Like lucystrawberry so brilliantly played, it's just self-aggrandization and such utter crap.
Oh, women! They are so full of spirit and life! And everything they do is magical, even the bad stuff! It's so fucking whimsical!
argh italics burst, sorry.
02/18/09
'Twas crap.
Lots of dialogue, none of it even slightly how real people actually talk.
They should have spent the money on buying the rights to Big Love instead, which is not shown in the U.K
If anyone could tell me how i could get my hands on Season 3, please PM me.
Please!
02/18/09
God, that was long. I had no idea I had such strong feelings about Mistresses till now.
02/18/09
Can you tell this bothers me? (My boyfriend, who out-earns me threefold, cannot conceil his boredom when I talk about work. Yet I know so much about his esoteric technical field by now I could work for his company. Somebody shoot me, plz?)
02/19/09
I also hate the shorthand of having female characters in successful professional jobs without ever showing the reality of those jobs to someone's life. So in Mistresses, one is a doctor, another a lawyer, both high powered, but able to spend all their time fannying around sleeping with umpteen blokes and having lunch.
02/18/09
Diversity behind the scenes-- racial and gender diversity-- helps create diversity in front of the camera. Plus, it means there will be a wider range of interesting characters, and that's good for everyone.
02/18/09
Sorry if my response is not very articulate. But I agree that we need different voices, and not just one point of view.
02/18/09
I know a lot of men who love women they know and also think about sex a lot, but almost none who seem to obsess over the essence of womanhood. If he wants to write about how he admires women, he can drop the hyperbole and also acknowledge that, no, we don't run everything just because men will do stupid things just to have sex with us.
02/18/09
And, empathy and obsession are.....very different.
This whole thing makes me feel weird, and I am having trouble pin-pointing why (although I think Lucy summed it up well).
02/18/09
I think it's because he comes close to fetishizing femininity, which is something men have been doing forever, but never gave us any real power.
Like nowadays, men fetishize feet or leather or certain races, but they used to treat the entire gender the same way because they were turned on by femaleness, irrespective of the individual.
I don't think I'm expressing this clearly though, because it just occurred to me recently while watching Mad Men or something.
02/19/09
Or that he's "trying it on for size" mentally?
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I take it we're meant to take "obsessed" in a positive way?
I have less of a problem with a man writing about a woman's perspective (hell, as Cunningham showed us, it's possible) and more of an issue with simplistic breaking down of female life.
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Yes! Thank you! This little bit of fiction makes my blood boil. Saying crap like that is not a way to engender yourself to me - it's a way to make me think you're full of shit.
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But I think that being obsessed about women doesn't give you qualifications to write about women - or your perception of women. Just like those "panelists" in that clip about body image didn't have the right to be up on that stage spouting off at the mouth like they did.
02/18/09
Geez, so who exactly are the men he knows?
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Now apply to Judd Apatow.