awwww.... i heard them interview them on NPR, and the challenge wasn't for a $50 dinner, it was for a $50 dinner party. and part of the rules were that it had to be something that wasn't an every day meal... Considering that they were cooking appetizers, etc., I dont think it was so bad. its less than $10 a person. Way more than you'd spend on a normal dinner, but I know if i am having people over I tend to spend more for dinner.
@Raanne: Thank you! Both writers explain the premise in their article which was to host a dinner party.
Personally, I think that the Pasta with Roast Chicken, Currents and Pine Nuts (Julia Moskin's recipe) is something that I would make myself, especially since I like all of those ingredients.
@Lady Skittlehattington: I do love Taste of Home. I suspect Frank Bruni and other gourmet foodie types would be horrified by it, though. Comfort cooking - even using fresh, organic ingredients - is totally not their thing.
Chicken with smothered potatoes is no joke. My Dude made this for me and I swear the dish mighta "sealed the proverbial deal". The smell of a roasting chicken slowly perfuming the entire place is damn wonderful. Reheating a rotisserie chicken from the supermarket or bringing home a bucket of fried wangs (as tasty is that can be) really can't compare. And it's so damn easy. Shoot, I'm making this for dinner tonight.
@Dagnabbit.Ooh.Baby.Has.A.Staaaarrr.: The best part of the home roasted chicken is that it doesn't get that icky watery overdone texture that supermarket roasted chickens do.
@Dagnabbit.Ooh.Baby.Has.A.Staaaarrr.: I don't eat chicken/meat so I can't respond with an 'mmm, delicious!' but I am giggling like a lunatic at 'fried wangs.' Thank you.
@Nibbles: Okay, "wangs" was meant to be a pseudo-southern drawl on "wings", not, uh, a referrenced to male appendages. Just wanted to clear that up, lolz.
oh my god is this where we share cheap, awesome recipes? this may sound awful but trust me -- it is the best.
chop up a medium sized onion. chop up some carrots, maybe 1 cup. pour some oil in a deep pot and saute both over medium heat.
rinse about a cup and a half of dry lentils (or a whole package, about 2 cups, who cares!) pick out any pebbles or miscellaneous items.
when the onions and carrots look respectable, pour in 6 cups of water. Then add the clean lentils. Then dump one 16oz. jar of salsa (your favorite brand) into the pot as well. Add a tsp salt. Bring to a boil, then reduce to simmer and let cook for 20-25 minutes. When it's almost done, throw some spinach into the pot.
You now have delicious, spicy spinach lentil soup on your hands. This is not a bad thing.
@breccia: This sounds very similar to something I make, and I LOVE IT.It will feed me for a week. I'm actually out of lentils at the moment. Off to the supermarket I go!
This is what happens when editorial is handed off to kids-of, friends-of, and spoiled editors of yore who have the most awful time figuring out it's not 1987 anymore.
@emgirl: You clearly don't know who Frank Bruni is. He is one of the most qualified, time-tested writer that the times has on its staff, not just for food writing. He was the chief Washington Correspondant for the Times for most of the Bush Administrations.
OH MY GOODNESS!!!! a vegan-able recipe!!!!! *swoon* thanks for that one. by the way, i spend an average of $50/WEEK on groceries and i'm a total foodie who shops at whole foods and everything. (then again, i bake my own bread and make pasta from scratch... but still!)
Groceries cost more in NYC, but not THAT much more. I spend between $50 and $70 a week for all my breakfasts, all but one lunch and about half of my dinners. (I am trying to cut back on eating dinner out, but my friends are clinging to this tightly as the main way to socialize.) It only gets to the upper end of the range if I am buying seafood or restocking on things like spices, olive oil, etc. So yeah, this is ridiculous.
Incidentally, is it wrong to want a New York newspaper that features neither Alex Rodriguez and his romantic tribulations on the front page, nor focuses its attention almost entirely on a fairly small, affluent segment of the population?
I think my main issue with this is not just the article itself, but the fact that almost all articles in Food and Style are written with this small segment of the population in mind. And you know, as a "professional" - in a profession that is woefully underpaid - I'd kind of like an intelligent, non-pretentious newspaper to read. Instead, I've got the News (which I just canceled), the Post (which is even worse than the News, and the Times (which I can't afford, and which caters to people in tax brackets much higher than I will ever be able to aspire to).
@MissAmy: I don't get the food hating, or the foodie hating. A weird, hateful attitude about food permeates the site. It's as though only if it's cheap, junky and/or bad for you that anyone is allowed to voice a like or desire for food.
@Lizawithazee: Yeah.... I have to agree. I LIKE spending some money on food. And I wouldn't want to serve my friends rice with a can of beans on top. Also, I try to watch the size of my ass so I don't really like doing the whole carb-loading thing...
@MissAmy: seriously. And then follows a whole bunch of triumphant postings about how much less we could all throw a dinner party for.
Yeah, I get that $50 is steep for one meal for alot of people (including myself), and that Bruni's tone is flip and annoying. But I still enjoy the idea, and I enjoyed the recipes, and I kind of don't understand the level of ridicule of Bruni. Being a foodie sort of means that you are willing to spend more than the average person would on food, because you get more utility out of it than most. My boyfriend and I work within the same budget confines, but I am way more willing to spend more on nice meals out and on groceries. So what? Does that make me a bad person because I have different preferences than him (or the majority of posters on the site)? Maybe I prefer to walk or take the metro and eschew taxis, maybe I spend less on alcohol (actually next to nil because alcohol makes me sick), maybe I forgo cable (I don't; this is just an example) so that I can buy nicer food. It doesn't make me deserving of scorn because I might on occasion spend $50 cooking a meal for my close friends. It sure saves everyone money over going out, and its a cheaper way to entertain then, say, going to a bar.
@celadon: Thank you (and everyone else who replied). I don't think that $50 for six people is much AT ALL, especially for a gourmet dinner. And no, I REFUSE to feed my guests Kraft macaroni and cheese out of the blue box. Sorry. I am a thirty-something professional and not a college kid. That kind of shit doesn't fly anymore.
Like you, I don't understand why those of us who like high quality food made with high quality ingredients and like to spend a large chunk of change on a nice dinner out every now and then are automatically horrible people. What, just because I saved up for three months to be able to do a tasting menu at Uchi means I'm some sort of evil Republican tool of the patriarchy out to undermine all that is holy and pure? please. Give me a freaking break.
I would for once like to see a post about food on this site done by someone who actually, you know, likes food and oh... I don't know, maybe knows something about it! Just a suggestion.
@MissAmy: lol. maybe there is a generational thing happening here. I myself am about to hit the big 3-0 soon and I would also never serve kraft to my dinner guests. But maybe I would have 10 years ago!
Some people think its dumb to spend money on food. My boyfriend, for example- interesting thing is, he lacks a sense of smell (almost completely, just born without it). I think it affects his taste of food because he really could care less what he puts in his mouth as long as it stops his tummy from growling. The idea of spending lots of dough on groceries or eating out makes no sense to him, but he understands that its just that we have different preferences. I wish more commenters here could come to that understanding...
@cantstopwontstop: Yeah, really furthering the conversation there, right?
I eat on $30-40 a week. I've had dinner parties for 8 on $20 - although, I concede, not gourmet because that isn't my style - and I've never eaten ramen in my life. Hate the stuff, frankly.
@celadon: It can't entirely be a generational thing. I'm 19 and could never serve Kraft to a guest, or to myself for that matter. I'm certainly on a tight budget but I put my health right up there with things I like to spend money on. So, quality, nutritional meals FTW!
I knew when I saw this that there would be a flood of comments about dinner parties for 10 done with moldy cheese, peanut butter, scrapings from yesterday's cat food can, ramen noodles and a half bottle of Two Buck Chuck.
Exactly, homochka. I'm one of that group, and we may be rare on Jezzie, but we're not rare at all in NYC, which is, after all, where the NYTimes originates.
@fitta: I know. I love reading Jezebel but I get sometimes irritated by the commenters who assume that everyone who is a professional making a good salary is evil and drives a Bentley and eats lobster every night. I make good money but I work crazy hours for it and so for me, spending an extra $5 on something that saves time is worth it. And honestly, when I throw a dinner party, I like to impress people and make it special. I am not going to cook for my guests the same thing I'd cook for myself on a busy weekday (i.e. frozen Trader Joe's food). And in a big city, making a fancy dinner from scratch costs money. I completely appreciate that most people aren't as fortunate as me in terms of salary but I don't appreciate when people get on their holier-than-thou soap-boxes beacuse they think serving their guests ramen makes them better people.
@Pterodactyl: :) I do wonder what some of these commenters do for a living...I have only posted a handful of times (but read Jez daily) but for some reason the comments on this particular post really got me riled up.
@homochka: Some of us are professionals who live and work in Manhattan in the finance industry, where things are a bit slow at the moment, hence our commenting on Jezebel.
@homochka: Well said, and I'm in similar boat. I was really shocked by all the comments when a Jezebel post mocked a woman for trying to fight for equal prices for dry cleaning men's and women's shirts.
Apparently in these times dry cleaning is a ridiculous luxury and this woman was completely out of touch, and we should all be taking our business suits down to the river and beat them on the rocks to wash by hand, then bring them home and lay them out to dry, and then iron them ourselves, both lining and outside. Riiiight...
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Personally, I think that the Pasta with Roast Chicken, Currents and Pine Nuts (Julia Moskin's recipe) is something that I would make myself, especially since I like all of those ingredients.
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Could it get more confusing?
Instead of new potatoes, you could also get small red potatoes, purple potatoes or white potatoes depending.
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chop up a medium sized onion. chop up some carrots, maybe 1 cup. pour some oil in a deep pot and saute both over medium heat.
rinse about a cup and a half of dry lentils (or a whole package, about 2 cups, who cares!) pick out any pebbles or miscellaneous items.
when the onions and carrots look respectable, pour in 6 cups of water. Then add the clean lentils. Then dump one 16oz. jar of salsa (your favorite brand) into the pot as well. Add a tsp salt. Bring to a boil, then reduce to simmer and let cook for 20-25 minutes. When it's almost done, throw some spinach into the pot.
You now have delicious, spicy spinach lentil soup on your hands. This is not a bad thing.
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And it tastes wonderful reheated.
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I think my main issue with this is not just the article itself, but the fact that almost all articles in Food and Style are written with this small segment of the population in mind. And you know, as a "professional" - in a profession that is woefully underpaid - I'd kind of like an intelligent, non-pretentious newspaper to read. Instead, I've got the News (which I just canceled), the Post (which is even worse than the News, and the Times (which I can't afford, and which caters to people in tax brackets much higher than I will ever be able to aspire to).
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Yeah, I get that $50 is steep for one meal for alot of people (including myself), and that Bruni's tone is flip and annoying. But I still enjoy the idea, and I enjoyed the recipes, and I kind of don't understand the level of ridicule of Bruni. Being a foodie sort of means that you are willing to spend more than the average person would on food, because you get more utility out of it than most. My boyfriend and I work within the same budget confines, but I am way more willing to spend more on nice meals out and on groceries. So what? Does that make me a bad person because I have different preferences than him (or the majority of posters on the site)? Maybe I prefer to walk or take the metro and eschew taxis, maybe I spend less on alcohol (actually next to nil because alcohol makes me sick), maybe I forgo cable (I don't; this is just an example) so that I can buy nicer food. It doesn't make me deserving of scorn because I might on occasion spend $50 cooking a meal for my close friends. It sure saves everyone money over going out, and its a cheaper way to entertain then, say, going to a bar.
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Like you, I don't understand why those of us who like high quality food made with high quality ingredients and like to spend a large chunk of change on a nice dinner out every now and then are automatically horrible people. What, just because I saved up for three months to be able to do a tasting menu at Uchi means I'm some sort of evil Republican tool of the patriarchy out to undermine all that is holy and pure? please. Give me a freaking break.
I would for once like to see a post about food on this site done by someone who actually, you know, likes food and oh... I don't know, maybe knows something about it! Just a suggestion.
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Some people think its dumb to spend money on food. My boyfriend, for example- interesting thing is, he lacks a sense of smell (almost completely, just born without it). I think it affects his taste of food because he really could care less what he puts in his mouth as long as it stops his tummy from growling. The idea of spending lots of dough on groceries or eating out makes no sense to him, but he understands that its just that we have different preferences. I wish more commenters here could come to that understanding...
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I eat on $30-40 a week. I've had dinner parties for 8 on $20 - although, I concede, not gourmet because that isn't my style - and I've never eaten ramen in my life. Hate the stuff, frankly.
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Apparently in these times dry cleaning is a ridiculous luxury and this woman was completely out of touch, and we should all be taking our business suits down to the river and beat them on the rocks to wash by hand, then bring them home and lay them out to dry, and then iron them ourselves, both lining and outside. Riiiight...
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