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    Gentlemen Of Bacongo: The Dandies Of Sub-Saharan Africa

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    Image of amoureuse is a second class citizen amoureuse is a second class citizen
    11/18/09

    In reply to Gentlemen Of Bacongo: The Dandies Of Sub-Saharan Africa
    It's all about showmanship and 1 upping each other. Fally Ipupa is 1 of the biggest Congolese stars out, hence the video below. Bentley, fur coat, American pop-star, people went WILD.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to Gentlemen Of Bacongo: The Dandies Of Sub-Saharan Africa
    How do I explain this, my people are flashy.
    Even in the US, if you pull up to a Congolese party, everyone is dressed to the nines. It is part of the cultute. when my uncle who lived in Paris came to visit, the young guys in the neighborhood used to line up on the corner to see what he was wearing, when he left in the morning with my father. The man got kudos for never repeating an outfit.

    In most instances, people usually borrow and exchange clothing. Yes, we are surrounded by war, chaos and utter poverty, but life goes on. Hell we've been in turmoil since the 1800s.
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    Image of logruszed logruszed
    11/18/09

    In reply to Gentlemen Of Bacongo: The Dandies Of Sub-Saharan Africa
    Reminds me of the "Teddy boys" of 1970's England. Sometimes the only way to feel good is to feel like you look good.

    And these gents have style. As a dandy (well, more of a fop), I approve.
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    Image of Sarah Dove Sarah Dove
    11/19/09

    @logruszed: I thought Teds were creatures of the 1950s.
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    11/19/09

    @Sarah Dove: I guess originally they were, but there was a revival of the style in the early 70's, pre-punk.
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    Image of Sarah Dove Sarah Dove
    11/21/09

    @logruszed: Thanks for the clarification! And I commend you on being a fop in this day and age. But have you considered becoming a Dapper Dan Man?

    #tips
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    11/21/09

    @Sarah Dove: I used to be a Dapper Dan Man, but it has been my experience that many "DDM" use foul language and often engage in fisticuffs in family establishments such as Woolworths. I do not wish to be associated with such non-bonafide men.
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    Image of kookla kookla
    11/18/09

    In reply to Gentlemen Of Bacongo: The Dandies Of Sub-Saharan Africa
    This is such a fascinating subject, that I'm amazed I've only heard about it until now.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to Gentlemen Of Bacongo: The Dandies Of Sub-Saharan Africa
    This reminds me incredibly of the gay dance halls in "Paris is Burning": notably, the use of designer clothes and looking good not only to promote your status within a minority and subjugated subculture, but to more importantly as a means to rise above the difficulties they've faced. Clothes and labels are so much more than "clothes" and "labels," especially to people who have limited means and a hard way of life.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to Gentlemen Of Bacongo: The Dandies Of Sub-Saharan Africa
    I find this hearbreaking somehow.
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    Image of MrsAbraxas MrsAbraxas
    11/18/09

    @hollygirl: Maybe cause of this?

    "Followers of SAPE wear $10,000 jackets and $500 shoes, but these mostly young Congolese men otherwise barely eke out a living in the rubble of Kinshasa and Brazzaville or the ghettos of Paris and Brussels, washing dishes or washing bodies, and sometimes selling their own."

    (quote from colors mag here: [www.colorsmagazine.com])
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    11/18/09

    @MrsAbraxas: Oh, and "many willingly spend as much on a jacket as they would on a house in Kinshasa."
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    11/18/09

    In reply to Gentlemen Of Bacongo: The Dandies Of Sub-Saharan Africa
    This is so hot, and it's nice whenever subcultures in sub-Saharan African countries are highlighted, if only to counteract the impression that the whole continent is one big charity commercial.

    It would be less bittersweet if they'd come about as a result of massive clothing donations form overseas, like maybe if someone had opened a shipping container from the 1970s only to find it full of amazing, immaculate retro wear. Also it's only half as cool as it could be with women dressing up. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but something tells me they're too busy raising the kids, getting food and water and going to school.
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    Image of la.donna.pietra la.donna.pietra
    11/18/09

    In reply to Gentlemen Of Bacongo: The Dandies Of Sub-Saharan Africa
    I am instantly reminded of the Zoot Suiters in 1940s L.A.
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    01/23/09

    In reply to Barack Obama "Simply Incorrect" On Tuxedo Issue
    Maybe he just wanted to match his tie to Michelle's dress. That is my explanation.
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    01/23/09

    In reply to Barack Obama "Simply Incorrect" On Tuxedo Issue
    I prefer shawl collars on my man's tuxedo, thanks.
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    Image of Treeless Treeless
    01/23/09

    In reply to Barack Obama "Simply Incorrect" On Tuxedo Issue
    It's cute how somebody at Slate thinks the most powerful man in the free world gives a damn.


    The powerful set trends, they don't grovel beneath them. Queen Victoria broke with the traditions of her time and wore a white wedding gown. And look what happened!


    But I honestly didn't notice the break from tradition 'cause I was too busy noticing how a white tie was the perfect choice for his skin tone and went with Michelle's white dress, and more importantly, how lovingly he looked at his wife.


    Finally...intentionally or unintentionally, mixing black and white to great effect is a powerful METAPHOR. For the love of God.

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    01/23/09

    @Treeless: *sends you a shiny internet*
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    Image of NotChoinski NotChoinski
    01/23/09

    In reply to Barack Obama "Simply Incorrect" On Tuxedo Issue
    Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Marge is throwing an important dinner party. The doorbell rings.


    Marge: Homer! You had only one job to do, and that was to put some pants on. And you didn't do it!


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    01/23/09

    In reply to Barack Obama "Simply Incorrect" On Tuxedo Issue
    I think its fitting that a candidate famous for wearing the same shoes everyday (with worn out soles) and owning just a few suits should make a few faux pas. (Unless he's being dressed/advised by a fashion consultant, whereby the consultant shouldn't be making these errors on a Government dime).
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    Image of Lana Leigh loves Meryl Streep Lana Leigh loves Meryl Streep
    01/23/09

    In reply to Barack Obama "Simply Incorrect" On Tuxedo Issue
    I was wondering why he didn't wear a black bow tie? And then it was crooked almost the entire night. Oh well.
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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    01/23/09

    @Ava-Scarlett: White tie is more formal than black.


    I will refrain from making jokes about crooked things and earlier Administrations. I will be elliptical. You fill in the blanks.

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    Image of gobblegirl gobblegirl
    01/23/09

    In reply to Barack Obama "Simply Incorrect" On Tuxedo Issue
    I find this really fascinating. As a girl, and a slobby one at that, I'm not terribly acquainted with men's high-fashion rules-but think they're really interesting. There's so much history woven into the rules of how we dress, it's cool to learn about.


    And for the record I think he looks great but would have looked awesome in tails as well.

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