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11/04/09
I have tried for 20 years to get him to change and it will not happen. (He cleans up real nice, though.) #men
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"i don't want to be a traitor to my generation and all but I don't get how guys dress today. I mean, come on, it looks like they just fell out of bed and put on some baggy pants and take their greasy hair - ew - and cover it up with a backwards cap and like, we're expected to swoon? I don't think so."
i think women embrace the idea of well-dressed men because it undermines the double standard when it comes to expectations for appearance between men and women. women put in a lot of effort to make themselves presentable by some sort of standards which they do not control while nothing comparable is expected of men. women kill themselves for the sake of their appearance (im not saying this a good thing, of course) while men are completely unaware of how much effort they are putting in. its nice to see men take the initiative to return the favor. #men
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although im a little curious as to what you mean by "free days" #men
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For every guy I know who doesn't worry about the imposing variety of messages society gives him about how he should look, sound, dress, act, etc. I know one who does. These messages may not be 100% as intense as the messages aimed at girls, but I think they're definitely past the 80% threshold.
I don't know many people of either gender who spend much time worrying about whether or not they have "cultural capital", though. #men
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and of course most people don't consciously think about what they can do to increase their cultural capital-- it is an sociological concept! people don't often think of their motivations in academic terms, but they still participate in behaviors that can be classified as such. we participate in sociological phenomenons without knowing it all of the time. #men
11/05/09
Fair enough, but 'living in a small southern city' isn't the norm, nor is it the bellwether for 'where our country is' on the issue. The suburbs are more like the cities than like the country in this respect.
"but you're just making up statistics at this point. and i still i don't think its as universal as those expectations on women. "
I didn't give you a 'statistic', I gave you a semi-educated guess, the same as you gave me.
As for cultural capital, for both genders it tends to accrue (in either suburban or urban settings) to people who either have money or take care of their appearance. There's not a giant gender divide there. #men
11/03/09
Foppish men, like stylish women, make me feel a bit weary. I can't imagine putting that much effort in on a daily basis, but they can have fun with it if they like. #men
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I know, it's very judgey. I will do better. #men
11/03/09
Also, I love Asian fashion for men - much more variety in colors, textures and patterns.
As for dating, as much as I like to look at them, we are usually very different personality-wise. I am a slob who doesn't do much, fashion-wise. Someone who is really into dressing up and trying out new trends is going to be kinda bored with me, as I don't have much to add. I find that with both men and women who are really into fashion. We tend to just not have much to talk about. The foppy ones I have met have all been very condescending, and while I know that there are pleasant fops out there, I just haven't met any. And the last thing I need is another person criticizing my fashion sense - I get that enough from my mother, you know? It's all about the personality chemistry, but they are really fun to see, fashion-wise. #men
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"Hey, at what age to men start tucking in their shirts?"
Teacher's response: "Around the same time you realize that having your asscrack hanging out and walking like you have a load in your pants compromises your ability to have sex with women. Now, back to Joyce..."
I loved that and it's stuck with me ever since. #men
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hehe vintage chubby... #men
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I think foppishness has long been associated with wit and still is now - Russell Brand and Eddie Izzard, for eg. Or maybe that's a European thing, I dunno. Whatever, clothes are an indicator of personality, whatever anyone says.
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To me, fashion is might as well be pronounced "fad." As in, green is in this season, or high-waisted trousers, or something.
Style, on the other hand, is about knowing the quality of cut on a suit, or the construction of a good pair of shoes, or simply construct an outfit without looking like you don't give a fuck. Unless, of course, you're going for the "I don't give a fuck" look.
Fashion goes in and out, but style is a life skill. #men
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Not the best but I manage. #men
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