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This is why I don't like her, jeez. Occam's Razor.
02:18 AM
I AM JEALOUS OF KIERA KNIGHTLEY'S MOUTH SPIDERS.
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I really hate it when attractive women are congratulated for being attractive and mediocre. It's not hard to be attractive; it is hard to do a job well. Women who are ugly or beautiful or regular should be congratulated when they are awesome and nothing less.
I am both. I accept your congratulations and offer mine in return, as I suspect most Jezzies are both beautiful and awesome.
12/07/09
Also, the female-female relationship dynamic deserves to be broken down in more creative ways than just jealousy/envy. For some reason, (and I'm not trying to get all Megan Fox here or anything) but I have a hard time having friendly relationships with women. I've tried to look at it from all angles and have tried to see if it was my personality that was the cause. However, even at my nicest, I still manage to attract the scorn of at least one woman. And that scorn spreeeeeads to everyone and soon enough, I'm back where I started. I know it can't simply be broken down to jealousy. But honestly, I would really like to know why.
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Um, I know that doesn't sound very nice either, but what I mean is that I doubt the problem lies in the fact that they ARE women.
I have problems with people myself.
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You know, Ms. KK might have a point, thought not quite in the way she thinks.
It's not necessarily her some more insecure women might resent (especially in situations where bfs/gfs/inappropriately-remarking husbands might agitate that insecurity) -- but, rather, what all the attention paid to her looks gets her, in our society in its current guise where men still have the most control over its resources, and where they respond, sometimes in the most vulgar way possible, to those looks.
At its most reductive, it strips down to not "What has she got", but "What has she got that I haven't", in a way where the last unspoken clause is "that gets her access to things I might need or want" -- in a society where women are relentlessly pushed to compare themselves to one another and then relentlessly shamed for doing so.
We had a similar discussion on the Megan Fox thread - it's not how she looks per se, but more about the rewards she gets for looking that way in our society -- and, if one thinks about it in a zero-sum way (husband turns his attention away from you to drooling at her on screen) how many people have to be deprived of what they have in order for her to get what she has.
Unpleasant, and perhaps unconscious, and certainly regularly unacknowleged by "nice girls" - but not, imo, implausible.
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Meaning, I can be more diligent about housework, learn skills and crafts, pursue multiple degrees, etc. but I can't make myself more naturally physically attractive than I am. Granted, this branches off into the area of beauty consumerism to improve what you have (i.e. emulate these celebrities), and in a lot of ways both ideas are part of a cycle that perpetuates the specter of The Beauty Myth.
Any fixation can easily veer into lustful territory, whether it be envy of Keira Knightley or what have you. It's a matter of degree--and perhaps once a person reaches that level of fixation, it does become that sort of obsessive, need-to-feed kind of drive.
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I think your second and third paragraphs are extremely well-put.
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The essay "Envy, A Love Story: Queering Female Jealousy" in Bitchfest articulates this well. I think, for some of us (ie myself) becoming aware that our envy is just a patriarchal perversion of same sex lust can be very liberating.
"Men want to be with her, women want to be her..." Once I started asking myself, "do you really want to be her? Or do you want to be /with /her?" things started clearing up a bit for me.
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*That being said, I'm generally not a jealous person, but I have my moments.
11:22 AM
Yours is another good point though, I'd say I'm far more likely to be jealous of something I can see as attainable like a job that they enjoy, style if I had the money, money in general then looks. I cant or wouldnt ever change mine but I can ENJOY looking at an attractive person, so it bothers me that people assume if you say you dont find the person attractive you must just then be jealous. If I had to pick anyone to look like it would be Kiera or Laura Prepon, Mila Jovovich and you certainly are going to find me watching them on screen not expressing negative things out of jealousy.
12/07/09
name in there and get the same take?
" . . . female hatred of LaToya Jackson/Elizabeth Taylor/Sarah Palin/Abbess Hildegard of Bingen is really a form of lust . . ."
Poor old Keira just happened to be the assignment on the day this writer got a bee in her bonnet about female jealously and lust.
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08:51 AM
Not Dido, though. Poor thing. Who would want to be her.
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And by kills, I mean tickles. I love/hate her acting.
02:39 AM
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I swear the last time I ever felt truly jealous of someone was over a classmate's new headband with a silk bow on it and I was ten years old.
In short, shut up, Keira Knightley.
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;)
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I'm OK with how I look, even though I won't be gracing the silver screen any time soon.
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Which makes it all the more annoying when female jealousy is held up as an example of femininity (meaning women are by nature petty and jealous and competitive), as though men don't possess the same qualities in equal amounts.
I've grown weary of the "women are so XYZ" articles, arguments, and trends. Women are so... human. We never claimed to be anything else.
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Daniel and Pierce (and my favorite 006, Alex Trevelyan) are the only reasons for Bond marathons.
(Though my mom continues to insist on the young Connery, she is slowly coming around to the DC way. He's done a good job of growing on both of us -- I was really steaming when they dumped Pierce and refused to replace him with James Purefoy, but I've become ... acclimated to the current casting.)
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Let me get out my RAZR and call the world's smallest waaaahmbulance.
12/07/09
(I already had "The Mighty Quinn" and "Mo' Better Blues", and Danny Nuzzi doesn't get enough leads.)
So when people were running around screaming "Aragorn!" I had to kind of struggle to control the smug.
12/07/09
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I think you'll like "A Walk on the Moon".
And he scared the beejeebers out of me in "Prophecy", but you do really think he was better in that than in "Crimson Tide"?
(Or maybe it's just I like him better understated than oozing out of his own pores. Or maybe the whole rest of "Prophecy" gave me such creeps it's distorting my memories of the performance.)
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*protracted Muttley snicker*