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JessicaLovejoy: Laughing, riding, cornholing!
11/04/09

In reply to Oh Snap: Dowd On Limbaugh
...because what I want in a president is low self-esteem? #maureendowd
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morninggloria
11/04/09

In reply to Oh Snap: Dowd On Limbaugh
Rush Limbaugh reminds me so much of John Wayne Gacy. I can't look at him without thinking that his house is full of clown accessories and stashed victims. #maureendowd
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Penny
11/04/09

@morninggloria: Thank you so very much for that... #maureendowd
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sportz.star
11/04/09

In reply to Oh Snap: Dowd On Limbaugh
Oh Maureen, every time I think I'm quitting you because you've jumped the shark with your nicknames and critiques that infantalize in ways that just bug me, you go and do something wonderful like this. Brava. #maureendowd
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NefariousNewt
11/04/09

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Oooooooooo... BUUUUUURRRRRRNNNNNNNN!!! #maureendowd
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nyc-caribbean-ragazza
11/04/09

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"Now Limbaugh calls Obama the "man-child president."

The 48-year-old Obama is skinny and getting skinnier, but there’s nothing childish about him. He more or less raised himself and came to terms with his Oedipal demons on his own, and he radiates a hard-won maturity.

W., on the other hand, was like a kid who knew that Daddy’s friends would take care of him; he was always running off to the gym or going biking, leaving the governing to his regents, Cheney and Rummy, or incompetents like Brownie."

Thank you Ms. Dowd. It's like Rush is seeing another version of reality. #maureendowd
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Ratinski
11/04/09

@nyc-caribbean-ragazza: It's like Rush is seeing another version of reality.

...For the past twenty years or so. #maureendowd
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Raised-byHeathens
11/04/09

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We may not be able to say anything about the addiction itself, but the scoring drugs from your maid just makes me think of a fifteen year old yuppie douche getting pot from the maid. It does seem immature, because frankly, if you want to do drugs, get a dealer like the rest of us. #maureendowd
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Bitingpika
11/04/09

@Raised-byHeathens: You should totally write an etiquette book. #maureendowd
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BearDownCBears
11/04/09

In reply to Oh Snap: Dowd On Limbaugh
Conservatism means never having to say you're sorry. #maureendowd
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Penny
11/04/09

@BearDownCBears: Winwinwinwinwinwin. #maureendowd
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JessickerFletcher
11/04/09

@BearDownCBears: winner winner, chicken dinner. #maureendowd
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BearDownCBears
11/04/09

@JessickerFletcher: Good, because I'm out of groceries. #maureendowd
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CurtCole
11/04/09

@BearDownCBears: I'm going to put that on my wall, hilarious. #maureendowd
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frankie22
11/04/09

In reply to Oh Snap: Dowd On Limbaugh
Hey Maureen - if you want to snark on this guy, there's an abundance of character flaws to choose from. Laughing at someone's battle with addiction is not only insensitive, it's lazy writing. #maureendowd
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JessickerFletcher
11/04/09

In reply to Oh Snap: Dowd On Limbaugh
Whoa, whoa, whoa... hold on. Rush Limbaugh "loved the end of the movie 'Love Story'?" WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?! Is the world ending? Oh dear lord, we probably cried at the exact same moment. This is shocking. SHOCKING! #maureendowd
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FroderickFronkensteen
11/04/09

In reply to Oh Snap: Dowd On Limbaugh
Really, Dowd? You go after addiction? You know, racism, sexism, homophobia, political idiocy, a bad haircut, creepy disposition, and nonsensical rambling disguised as political thought were all good places to start in ripping this assclown to shreds. And you picked addiction. Way to go, journalism. #maureendowd
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JessickerFletcher
11/04/09

In reply to Oh Snap: Dowd On Limbaugh
Did Rush Limbaugh Just Get Told?

No?

Maureen Dowd, Go Tell Him.

Did Rush Limbaugh Just Get Told?

Yes?

*OH SNAP!* #maureendowd
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Penny
11/04/09

In reply to Oh Snap: Dowd On Limbaugh
Actually, I think that's called an addiction.

Slam this dipshit all you want, but I prefer staying away from the addict shit-talking. #maureendowd
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Lymed
11/04/09

@Penny: Thank you. Having an addiction is not immature. No problem criticizing him for hypocrisy in things he has said about drug addicts, but not for the addiction itself. #maureendowd
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CurtCole
11/04/09

@Penny: I don't think anyone has a problem with him using drugs and/or becoming an addict, it's just that he is such a fucking hypocrite about it. #maureendowd
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newyorkette
11/04/09

@Penny: Well I think the idea is partially that if you're an addict maybe you should be a little less judgmental about other people's flaws, but that's not our boy Rush's style. #maureendowd
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pantsless economist...access RESTORED
11/04/09

@Penny: Yeah me too, though the narcissism, over his head, and inexperienced bits still stand. #maureendowd
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Penny
11/04/09

@all: I understand what the beef is, folks. But, there are plenty of other things to attack him for.

Just because he would sink to the level of taking someone to task on an addiction doesn't mean I will. #maureendowd
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BeckyIva
11/04/09

@Penny: Yeah, I feel like I've been super defensive lately, but it demeans an argument so much to go after someone's personal choices or battles like this. There are so many valid reasons to critique Limbaugh... Going after his personal struggle with addiction, which is an illness, is just a low blow, and I think it makes Dowd the immature one. #maureendowd
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bluetrain84
11/04/09

@Penny: I agree, but my guess is that she chose his painkiller addiction to go after because it's not really something that either side can argue with--it occurred and that's that. Slamming his racism/homophobia/sexism would have resulted in his supporters arguing that what he says isn't racist/homophobic/sexist and that Dowd is just another super-sensitive liberal. #maureendowd
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ItchykooParker
11/04/09

@Penny: I would say the same, except for Limbaugh's unbelievable hypocrisy on the subject, even AFTER he was exposed. I have no sympathy. #maureendowd
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clevernamehere
10/29/09

In reply to Maureen Dowd, Sports, & The Perils Of Slamming Sexism
Tyrell makes some bizarre assumptions.

Why would anyone assume that because Obama is in the top 10% of men height wise, that all the men he plays basketball with are also big?

In what alternative world is a pick-up game of basketball a strength competition? This isn't exactly the NBA, its a bunch of middle aged guys.

I don't particularly care about Obama's basketball games. I really doubt he has much input on things like promotions and raises. That would be more Rahm's territory.

But it is problematic when bosses bond with employees over gender exclusive activities. When you're the boss, work and friendship need to be somewhat separate. #maureendowd
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sensitivitycop
10/29/09

In reply to Maureen Dowd, Sports, & The Perils Of Slamming Sexism
This is a tough one - I'm no fan of Dowd's extremely petty Norma Desmond / Margot Channing like condescencion towards Hillary Clinton, but I see her point. Human nature is men like playing sports with men - when we play basketball we like to tell crude jokes, get gassy and all that other stuff that we are uncomfortable doing around women. But there is a professional advantage to being one of the boys, and there really isn't an answer to it. Men need to gather without women, and often our co-workers are also our friends. This isn't a men only issue. Plenty of professional women gather for "girls only" events with similar bonding to the exclusion of their male underlings. Less frequently than with men, but that misses the point. The point is this is a human nature issue, and until we change that, the problem will never be solved, least of all by "workplace guidelines" #maureendowd
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clevernamehere
10/29/09

@sensitivitycop: There is a solution to the problem- men/women only time should not involve co-workers. A responsible boss should think about whether or not such events constitute favoritism.

On another note- this is the second "That's just how guys are!" post I've seen from you in the last hour. I don't understand why someone who is so disinterested in gender roles or women as people would bother visiting this site. #maureendowd
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Alys Brangwin has a huge talent
10/29/09

@sensitivitycop: And now when I read her column, which I do on occasion, I will read it in Norma's voice. "Do you want me to tell you?" #maureendowd
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sensitivitycop
11/06/09

@clevernamehere: where you got the idea i was "disinterested" I have no idea since I have a strong interest. I think it's senseless to deny that individuals have a strong social urge to be with people like themselves - whether it's gender, race, religion or political affilliation. Also, making rules that prohibit friends from associating just because they are co-workers is not only wrong, it's unenforceable. People are free to choose who their friends are, and the constitution protects both the right to assemble and freedom of speech, so such rules would lose in court. #maureendowd
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clevernamehere
11/06/09

@sensitivitycop: The bill of rights applies to the government, not companies. Just like a company can make you sign a non-disclosure form, they can play a role in your work behavior. Freedom of speech/assembly means you can't get arrested, not that you can't get fired. #maureendowd
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sensitivitycop
11/06/09

@clevernamehere: If an individual associates with a co-worker OUTSIDE of the office then that behavior is outside the reach of corporate authority and protected. If 3 males or 3 females develop personal friendships with co-workers, they are free to have dinner, play soccer, or any other social activity outside the workplace. A corporation cannot regulate the company you keep once you leave the office - there can be security related rules about what you are allowed to discuss - if an individual has a specific security clearance then she or he may be restricted in what they can discuss - but not without signing a waiver first. But I guarantee you that if a company fired 3 men or 3 women just because they participated in social activities outside the office - even if they signed a waiver - the firing would not stand up in court on constitutional grounds. #maureendowd
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sensitivitycop
11/06/09

@clevernamehere: In this case, the bill of rights is being applied to individuals, not the corporations. #maureendowd
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clevernamehere
11/06/09

@sensitivitycop: Yes, companies can regulate who you socialize with outside of work if it is expected to effect your work. No dating co-workers rules which are often enforced.

But that really isn't the point. Your reaction to boy's club culture is "Sucks to be you, the Bill of Rights makes it okay." Not only isn't that untrue, it is myopic and selfish. #maureendowd
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sensitivitycop
11/09/09

@clevernamehere: What you fail to mention is there are plenty of men who don't get invited to these outside activities. Do un-athletic males have a claim against the Friday night basketball game? If 4 guys from the same office play b-ball every Friday night, and consistently refuse outsiders of either sex, then are not those refused men being denied opportunity just like the women are? Or, if 4 African-American men from the same company form a poker night, do Latino men have a claim of being unfairly excluded? The courts have often ruled against corporate anti-fraternization rules when sexual conduct is not an issue. Companies have tried, primarily to prevent unions from organizing, and have met resistance in the courts on grounds of either "right to privacy", or on grounds of unfair labor practices. The workplace is not some kind of holy ground immune to human nature. People develop friendships in offices, and as long as those friendships don't involve sexual conduct, companies tend to stay out of it and rightly so. Inter-office friendships increase productivity, help employee retention rates and improve morale. If a woman wants to play the guys in a game of b-ball, she is free to do what the guys do - ask to join. Chances are she'll have fun. #maureendowd
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madeofawesome
10/29/09

In reply to Maureen Dowd, Sports, & The Perils Of Slamming Sexism
Given the choice, I'd rather play Scrabble with the POTUS than basketball. Possibly because I'm more into his quiet intelligence than his athleticism.

And Tyrrell's last sentence makes the English major in me cringe. It's so awkward.
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