Um, is this in reference to the fact that she wore pins specific to the occasion while Secretary of State? I mean, I agree with her, but it seems like kind of strange statement from someone who just published a book about her work-related accessories. #madelinealbright
@sportz.star: Oh no yhou're a Tower gal--just kidding. I was a Freemanite and Mungerite.
I didn't graduate. ADD hit me big time in college and I couldn't cope. Back in the early 80's there wasn't a diagnosis for ADD, but I'm still on the mailing list.
Did you know that Munger faces outwards because it was the dorm for financial aid students?
@Khrushchev: I had some time with this guy Excel, and finally got it. It's more around the rounds of 98.37253%. Hope you don't mind I rounded it to 98%.. Geez..
This is a perfect excuse for me to brag that I got to interview Madeleine Albright when I was a senior in high school, and she was lovely and gracious and took 30 minutes with us rather than the ten we'd been allotted. Therefore, I decree all Americans should know who she is and possibly anoint her with precious oils.
OK, how old was the passenger who asked? Because if it was someone who was at least in high school during the Clinton years, then he/she ought to be pelted with rotten food.
It make sense that if you didn't know anything about the lady, and somebody's gushing only about Bosnia and her work in it, you might think that maybe she has something to do with Bosnia. It's still not right, but if you're overhearing that conversation and you don't know who she is, what would you think?
I didn't know who she was until last week, so I guess I'm a horrible person or something.
However, given that she was the first woman Secretary of State of the US, and a trailblazer, and this is a (oooh, dare I say it) feminist/woman's blog, I am embarrassed that you don't know who she is.
Besides, she was SoS NOT that long ago. I may be a fucking geezer and so on, but seriously? Clinton was president a decade or so ago.
@rosasparks looks like a Fraggle: Just because I know who Madeleine Albright is doesn't mean I could pick her out in the airport. I think you're being a little harsh.
@desertbloom79: But we're not talking about picking her out in an airport (although since the invention and development of the camera, images of public figures have proliferated news media and are actually hard to avoid, so I'm not sure I'd excuse that yet). We're talking about knowing who she is. This isn't Lady Gaga or Agyness Deyn. I don't know of an excuse for being unfamiliar with Madeline Albright.
And if I sound unnecessarily passionate about this, it's because I take offense to ignorance, but even more than that, to people who take pride in their own ignorance.
@Khrushchev: I'm going to be 20 this year. Growing up, I was unaware of the idea that there was such a thing as politics, but I knew way too much about Oracle Databases, computer programming, and science.
Seriously, I remember the re-election of Clinton as being horribly confused as to why the news was turning states on a map red and blue. It was never discussed, it was never a topic in my house, I was pretty much left in the dark.
When she was first Secretary of State, I was six. When her term ended I was eleven. I also started getting into the concept of politics when I was eleven. She was just before my time, that's all.
@Wibbles: Seriously, dude, I say this as a peer: it's a weak excuse. Eleanor Roosevelt was before our time, too. This is just the world around you and you should know about it.
And honestly, it wasn't even the fact that you didn't know that offended me quite so much as your defensiveness at the end of your original comment. People are allowed to make fun of you for not knowing who Madeline Albright is.
@Khrushchev: Dude. Who said I was proud of not knowing who she is? Please point out the exact sentence where I said "Gee, I'm glad I don't know who she is".
Matter of fact, I actually looked her up last week when that pin story broke, the way you do countries when you run across them in articles and don't know where they are.
@Wibbles: I didn't know who she was until last week, so I guess I'm a horrible person or something. sounded to me like defensiveness. No one's asking you to change your childhood, but I don't think it's absurd to suggest that this is an instance in which defensiveness is not warranted.
@Khrushchev: See how Rosaparks reacted. That is why. I got defensive, knowing how you guys love her so much (and rightfully so, because she is awesome).
That being said, everybody should know who Ada Lovelace (First computer programmer, not first female computer programer, first ever.) and, if you're a gay rights activist, who Alan Turning is (Every single computer you use is Turning Complete, he was also outed as a homosexual).
@Wibbles: I did not react to your lack of knowledge. Not one bit. I reacted to your flippant response, which is my interpretation.
"I didn't know who she was until last week, so I guess I'm a horrible person or something."
Maybe you were being self-deprecating, but I didn't read it that way, and it sounded like your comment lacked a seriousness as to whether or not knowing who Madeleine Albright was no big deal.
Hey, you've clearly articulated that you sought out knowledge; about her and about a lot of things. I think that's great, given that you've stated that you grew up in a quiet household.
I just found your initial statement to be disrespectful. While it's clear your intentions are othewise, it didn't come across well.
Yay for there being intelligent TSA employees. Boo on that other idiot for not pulling his/her head out of their ass long enough to realize that they were talking to MADELEINE ALBRIGHT.
As I recall, she made a point of telling everybody that she beleived Bill Clinton when he said. "I did not have sexual relations, with that woman, Miss Lewinsky"
One of my roommates got into her class at Gtown and I was SO JEALOUS. After every class we'd sit around and pry her for details. "So THEN what did she say?"
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Madeline (Korbel) Albright, '59
Hillary Rodham Clinton, '69
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There are two other Wendy Wellesleys in the Cabinet.
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There are lots of Wendy Wellesleys on TV too -- Diane Sawyer is probably the most famous news person but Christianne Klein ('02) is now with ABC!
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I didn't graduate. ADD hit me big time in college and I couldn't cope. Back in the early 80's there wasn't a diagnosis for ADD, but I'm still on the mailing list.
Did you know that Munger faces outwards because it was the dorm for financial aid students?
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I saw her on Bill Maher's show on HBO, and she was brilliant and HILARIOUS.
He asked her to do a stream of conscious thing, where she say the first thing that comes to mind after whatever he said.
He said Dick Cheney
She said, 'INSANE'.
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I didn't know who she was until last week, so I guess I'm a horrible person or something.
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However, given that she was the first woman Secretary of State of the US, and a trailblazer, and this is a (oooh, dare I say it) feminist/woman's blog, I am embarrassed that you don't know who she is.
Besides, she was SoS NOT that long ago. I may be a fucking geezer and so on, but seriously? Clinton was president a decade or so ago.
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And if I sound unnecessarily passionate about this, it's because I take offense to ignorance, but even more than that, to people who take pride in their own ignorance.
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Seriously, I remember the re-election of Clinton as being horribly confused as to why the news was turning states on a map red and blue. It was never discussed, it was never a topic in my house, I was pretty much left in the dark.
When she was first Secretary of State, I was six. When her term ended I was eleven. I also started getting into the concept of politics when I was eleven. She was just before my time, that's all.
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And honestly, it wasn't even the fact that you didn't know that offended me quite so much as your defensiveness at the end of your original comment. People are allowed to make fun of you for not knowing who Madeline Albright is.
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Matter of fact, I actually looked her up last week when that pin story broke, the way you do countries when you run across them in articles and don't know where they are.
I can't change my childhood to make you happy.
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That being said, everybody should know who Ada Lovelace (First computer programmer, not first female computer programer, first ever.) and, if you're a gay rights activist, who Alan Turning is (Every single computer you use is Turning Complete, he was also outed as a homosexual).
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"I didn't know who she was until last week, so I guess I'm a horrible person or something."
Maybe you were being self-deprecating, but I didn't read it that way, and it sounded like your comment lacked a seriousness as to whether or not knowing who Madeleine Albright was no big deal.
Hey, you've clearly articulated that you sought out knowledge; about her and about a lot of things. I think that's great, given that you've stated that you grew up in a quiet household.
I just found your initial statement to be disrespectful. While it's clear your intentions are othewise, it didn't come across well.
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so thanks, wibbles, for that bit of info.
let's just say I added a cluster to fine-tune the flow of data to my head (har har, obscure database jokes, gotta love 'em)
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So either she lied, or was fooled.
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There are several people I've met who've met her, and it is the highlight of their lives.
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