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    Image of bohogurl bohogurl
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    I love Peggy, I love Joan. If I met Betty in person, I would have loathed her. But as a character, I am absolutely 100% fascinated by her. All three women represent different choices -- practically the only choices -- women had back then and to see how their decisions play out is pure joy. I say, you can't have a Peggy and a Joan WITHOUT a Betty.
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    Image of anibundel anibundel
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    I am confused by Betty-haters. Yes she is hard to watch sometimes, but I feel like watching her character really touches on a generation of older women and the lives they lived, that just doesn't quite exist anymore.
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    Image of awinoforever awinoforever
    12/18/09

    @anibundel: I've always felt the same way. I see a lot of Betty in my grandmothers.

    Hell, being around old money from the South all the time, I still see a lot of Betty in the women I know now. I got too many uncomfortable congratulations when I got married. As in, "he'll always take care of you. You're so luck!" From 23 year old women. Like, no, sorry, I got married because I am in love and found a partner for life. I can take care of myself.
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    Image of valerie valerie
    12/18/09

    @anibundel: I agree. The thing that so many commenters seem to be missing is that *this is how it was* for many women of the era. No right or wrong about it. It was a different time and a different culture. My mom wanted to be Betty so badly, and she suffered like Joan did as she discovered it's all a bit of a sham.

    This show gives me a lot of empathy for my parents.
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    Image of meritxell: an erotic life meritxell: an erotic life
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    Ugh, I would be a happy camper if I never saw Betty and Henry again, ever. Betty plots always bored the shite outta me. IMO the show is at its best when focused on the core Sterling Cooper (Draper Pryce!) crew.
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    12/18/09

    @meritxell: an erotic life: I totally agree. The show is always at its peak when it centers on Sterling Cooper...I'm always bored out of my mind at the family stuff. It just reminds me too much of a plodding soap opera.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    When I first read that part where Weiner says that yes, January's contract has been renewed, I kind of thought it was gonna go on to be like, "'Cause we know she exposed all her limitations as an actress on that infamously dismal episode of SNL, and we considered that fans would find it difficult to ever take her seriously again, but we decided to take a chance!" No such luck. But I guess they don't really fire people for sucking on SNL... but rules are made to be broken!
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    12/18/09

    @Sherbet Gravel: If they fired people for sucking on SNL would there even be a SNL?
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    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    Oh PHEW, I thought you were gonna say Joan wasn't coming back. I can deal with Shitface McRapist, as long as I have my Joanie.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    In my opinion, Betty's storyline is just a black hole that could be filled in by Joan or Sal or Harry.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    oh great Dr. Dumbfingers is here to stay.
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    Image of Nicolarz Nicolarz
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    I don't know that I'm thrilled that Betty is still on the show. Her relationship w/Henry Francis is creepy and sad despite what Weiner might say, and I don't want to watch it play out.
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    12/18/09

    @Nicolarz: I totally agree. I was hoping we'd see the last of them on the plane.

    If Weiner's trying to show that Henry was "good for Betty" or "grounded" or whatever, he's not doing a very good job because I only got creepy vibes from him on the show. Then again I am a dedicated Betty hater.
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    Image of Nicolarz Nicolarz
    12/19/09

    @meritxell: an erotic life: I'm not even a Betty hater, but I just find someone who becomes obsessed with a heavily pregnant woman very creepy. And I think Betty is attracted to him because of her unresolved Daddy issues, so the relationship is just sick and sad to me.
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    Image of willwriteforfood willwriteforfood
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    What exactly has Henry Francis done to be "good" to Betty, except encourage her to leave her marriage (although in truth all she needed was knowing that she had a net to land on when she actually did it) and promise her a castle and a pony of her very own?

    I can't wait to see what happens next! I know people are very mixed on January Jones, but the character of Betty just fascinates me. I alternately hate her and am sorry for her. Mostly I'm waiting for her to discover The Feminine Mystique.
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    Image of Thus Spake KATE! Thus Spake KATE!
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    I know I sound like a squeaky wheel because I was saying this all throughlast season this but:

    What about Peggy?!

    The career-gal in me needs to know. Hopefully she'll get more screen time next season at this new agency, because she all but disappeared last season. Don and Betty are only so interesting, yet they monopolized the entire season, while Peggy and Joan were....well, I just don't know where they were.
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    Image of scullymurphy scullymurphy
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    You know, I have to say I'm much more interested in what Joan does AT WORK next season than what happens with her dud of a husband. I cheered when she walked back into the office during the finale. It made me realize that her professional life is far more exciting than who she's with romantically.

    Of course in an ideal world, I'd love Joaney to be happy on all fronts. But for next season I'd really just like to focus on how she may have room to advance professionally within the new agency.
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    Image of hovy hovy
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    "Weiner: Guys like him, apparently, don't really die in Vietnam. Only good people die."

    This was very interesting. Because it carries the implication that if Doctor McRapey died in Vietnam, he'd be seen as a hero. As a "good" man who fought for his country.

    And somehow, just from that tiny little nugget, I suspect Weiner has something rather sinister in-store for McRapey. (At least, I hope so!)
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    Image of sympathyforthebasementcat sympathyforthebasementcat
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    I bet he'll go missing, and she'll finally let herself not be the perfect wife, and she'll get together with someone else, and then he'll come back.
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    Image of this_charming_one this_charming_one
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    Maybe someone can start a Facebook campaign called "Dear Mad Men writers, please kill Joan's husband in Vietnam."

    Use the power of social networking to make this happen!
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    Image of Thus Spake KATE! Thus Spake KATE!
    12/18/09

    @this_charming_one: I would join, fer sure.
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    Image of ImDatNinja (loves her Red Sox) ImDatNinja (loves her Red Sox)
    12/18/09

    @this_charming_one: Slow clap.
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    Image of snobographer snobographer
    12/18/09

    In reply to The Future Of The Women Of Mad Men, From The Creator Himself
    Is he talking about the same Henry Francis? Because that guy's a skeeze and dull as dishwater. He's not "good to" Betty; he hasn't demonstrated any interest in her as an individual. He just wants to own her.
    Dammit they better not ruin Betty's storyline. I want her to be a single mom for a while and struggle and find her strength and start wearing big tinted glasses like Gloria Steinem.
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    hortense promoted this comment Edited by snobographer at 12/18/09 2:35 PM snobographer was starred snobographer was unstarred
    Image of AndPreciousLittleofThat AndPreciousLittleofThat
    12/18/09

    @snobographer: Just give 'er a gun and a cigarette and she'll be right as rain.
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    Image of snobographer snobographer
    12/18/09

    @AndPreciousLittleofThat: Yeah! Throw in a copy of The Second Sex and it's a date.
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