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    01:47 PM

    In reply to January Jones Doesn't Believe In Mad Men Spoilers
    I had The Chipmunk Adventure spoiled for me when I was about eight years old. I was LIVID. #madmenspoilers
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    11:46 AM

    In reply to January Jones Doesn't Believe In Mad Men Spoilers
    psst! Jesus ascends into Heaven. #madmenspoilers
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    11:39 AM

    In reply to January Jones Doesn't Believe In Mad Men Spoilers

      #madmenspoilers
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    11:43 AM

    @morninggloria: That is brilliant. #madmenspoilers
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    11:44 AM

    @morninggloria: I love it. #madmenspoilers
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    11:45 AM

    @morninggloria: Luckily I've seen all of these films, otherwise you would be in big trouble. #madmenspoilers
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    11:50 AM

    @bluebears: You can get it on a tee shirt, so the world can know that you don't give a fuck if they haven't seen Fight Club. #madmenspoilers
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    11:57 AM

    @morninggloria: not to be THAT guy, but I totally had Fight Club guessed like 40 minutes in. Yawn. #madmenspoilers
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    12:08 PM

    @morninggloria: The Villagers sacrifice the Policeman?

    Someone help me out here...I think I just found something I actually haven't seen (and I don't care about spoilers) #madmenspoilers
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    12:19 PM

    @fulanita: That's from "The Wicker Man." #madmenspoilers
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    12:47 PM

    @morninggloria: which explains the little drawing I couldn't place. I haven't seen either version AND NOW YOU'VE SPOILED THEM FOR ME FOREVERRRRRR!!! (i kid) #madmenspoilers
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    11:38 AM

    In reply to January Jones Doesn't Believe In Mad Men Spoilers
    I "spoil" stuff for myself all the time. Coming in here, reading a post and watching clips does NOT in any way spoil the show for me - it adds to the anticipation of seeing the entire thing when I get home - early enough in the evening that I don't miss a crucial scene.

    That actually happened to me early this season when I fell asleep during the lawnmower scene then woke right after. I was in here all wtfing and was relieved I hadn't deleted the ep! #madmenspoilers
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    11:14 AM

    In reply to January Jones Doesn't Believe In Mad Men Spoilers
    The thing that really bothers me re:spoilers is people who are years behind and still expect the world to shut up about things, a phenomenon currently seen in people who haven't read any Harry Potter books but are getting the story via the films. It's like, come on, man. The story ended years ago.

    At this point, it's the equivalent of telling people to shut up about Scrooge on your way into see Jim Carrey's A Christmas Carol because you don't know how it's going to turn out yet. #madmenspoilers
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    11:23 AM

    @hortense: Yes! Um, sorry, but Six Feet Under is OVER; I am not going to refrain from talking about it because you are still waiting for your parents to get you the boxed-set.

    Even more annoying to me is people who take years to catch up to a show that is currently on. We had a party on Sunday and it went a bit late and cut into Mad Men time. No problem, I figured I'd watch the 11 pm encore. At 10:45, I tell the eight or so people that Mad Men is on at 11 and I'm watching whether they like it or not. Most everyone was up to speed and down to watch but one obnoxious couple threw a fit (as they do EVERY time they're over on a Sunday) and moaned that they were only on season two. This is the same couple who still brags about not having a television. Hello? Go back to 2003 where people care.

    Sorry. #madmenspoilers
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    11:24 AM

    @hortense: Ha!

    Also, if you don't know what happens, it's your responsibility to put on the earmuffs. You can't expect everyone else to drop conversation about something they communally enjoy because you're still watching season 1. #madmenspoilers
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    11:25 AM

    @hortense: I totally see your point. And I agree. Although I'm a hypocrite, because I never saw the second half of the last season of the Sopranos, and still shush people when they talk about the finale. Although I've already heard quite a bit about it, I just don't want to hear more. (I'm currently working my way through the entire series) #madmenspoilers
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    11:26 AM

    @thecameralovesyou: If something gets spoiled for me, I try to look at it like I'm watching a show like, say, Rome, wherein I know the historical particulars and how things will eventually end up, but I'm not sure how the show will get there. Sometimes that helps a bit. Other times, not so much. #madmenspoilers
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    11:35 AM

    @hortense: That's a good technique. And re: Harry Potter. I totally agree that people should't expect people not to talk about plot, when the stories been out there for years. But when I went to the midnight show of Half Blood Prince, some asshat in the back shouted "SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!!" just as the lights went down. Everyone there were OBVIOUSLY big HP fans so not a big deal but... really dude? Really? #madmenspoilers
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    11:38 AM

    @hortense: Ah, Rome. Man, that was good. #madmenspoilers
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    11:45 AM

    @hortense: I remember a gawker commenter a few weeks ago got all pissy about the editor "spoiling" the fact that the kennedy assassination took place. like, really dude? #madmenspoilers
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    12:25 PM

    @hortense: My cable operator does not offer AMC so I have to watch it on DVD. For some reason the spoilers don't bother me because I feel like the characters and the acting and the scenery make this show great, not necessarily the story. We all knew she was going to leave him for good. I knew this second episode of season two. #madmenspoilers
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    11:09 AM

    In reply to January Jones Doesn't Believe In Mad Men Spoilers
    Interesting timing: NPR just put up a post about what constitutes a spoiler: [www.npr.org]
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    11:14 AM

    @Anna: I love that.

    I am kind of a spoiler freak. When bored at work I go to the movie spoiler Web site and read movie spoilers for things I will likely never see. I just have to know how everything ends. #madmenspoilers
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    11:20 AM

    @Anna: The article NPR is responding to-- [www.slashfilm.com] actually takes a pretty reasonable, "You know what constitutes a spoiler, so warn people about it" stance. I thought the article was kind of unnecessarily snarky and ignored the fact that, well, some people don't know how Twelve Monkeys ends, and deserve to be warned before you go spouting off about it. #madmenspoilers
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    11:23 AM

    @Anna: Interesting post. I think it's sort of disingenuous for the writer to act like spoiling a three-seasons ago Project Runway winner is the same thing as spoiling a show like Mad Men. Reality TV, sporting events, I can see the case that you should STFU or watch it on time. Dramas, especially those not on network TV, where those who want to see them as they air have to pay a premium, are a different story-- but again, the problem isn't writers on NPR or Jezebel. It's friends in conversation, on Facebook, and Twitter, where you can't just not see/hear it by not clicking. #madmenspoilers
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    11:43 AM

    @EdnasEdibles: Oh, I do that too! I actually don't mind knowing the end of things (books, movies, TV series)...in the grand scheme of my life, does it really matter whether I knew what Rosebud was before I saw Citizen Kane? What's the big deal? I kind of see it as freeing me up to enjoy other parts of the movie that I might have missed b/c I spent so much time wondering how it would end. #madmenspoilers
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    12:12 PM

    @willwriteforfood: Yes, somehow I managed to learn what Rosebud was sometime in the 50 years between the film's release and my actually seeing it. It didn't change a thing. #madmenspoilers
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    12:20 PM

    @fulanita: You know how I found what Rosebud was? A freaking "Peanuts" cartoon drawn before I was born! If Charles Schultz didn't think it was a big deal to spoil the movie for his readers, then who am I to rail against him? #madmenspoilers
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    11:04 AM

    In reply to January Jones Doesn't Believe In Mad Men Spoilers
    I don't get worked up about spoilers. I just don't click; solved, the problem is.

    The only other solution is to never talk about anything unless and until the general public has been polled endlessly on the subject, several committees have been formed to review the polling data, and it has, perhaps, been put to a vote. At which point, television shows become akin to health reform.

    Um, yeah, this way lies madness. Don't click, people. It's fucking teevee. #madmenspoilers
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    11:33 AM

    @SomeAuthorGirl: I know! I usually watch Mad Men on Monday, because I'm a weenie who goes to bed at 9:00. (Shut it.) So when I see posts for Mad Men the next day I quickly avert my eyes and scroll like a motherfucker. LALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING!!! I've yet to be spoiled with this method. #madmenspoilers
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    11:41 AM

    @GirlFailer: Next you'll be telling me you know not to touch things on the stove because they might be hot!

    Seriously. Let's all be the masters of our own destinies and not expect the world to revolve around us.

    (It's rainy and cold, so I am one sullen, grumpy-ass person today! Though I would still think this is ridic and prepost if it was sunny.) #madmenspoilers
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    10:51 AM

    In reply to January Jones Doesn't Believe In Mad Men Spoilers
    I always thought the universal truth of spoilers is that a TV show tidbit is not a spoiler once the show has aired.

    A movie spoiler is harder but I think maybe after it's been out for a year, you can say things like "Darth Vader is Luke's father" and not worry about offending anyone since they've had ample time to see if they really wanted to. #madmenspoilers
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    10:59 AM

    @EdnasEdibles: DARTH VADER IS LUKE'S FATHER?

    (faints) #madmenspoilers
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    11:02 AM

    @NewsBunny: Dumbledore died.
    What really annoys me are the people who are on season 2 of MM and complain about spoilers. #madmenspoilers
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    11:10 AM

    @femme-bot: Bruce Willis was dead the whole time. #madmenspoilers
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    01:56 PM

    @GeorgeFayne: Soylent Green IS PEOPLE! #madmenspoilers
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    10:50 AM

    In reply to January Jones Doesn't Believe In Mad Men Spoilers
    JJ, I would luv to see you back as Betty! ( I know we have a lot of haters here)
    Shotgun Betty telling Henry to get off her lawn. #madmenspoilers
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    10:53 AM

    @DinaRonson : Elizabeth Cady Stanton: GOD yes. An exact repeat of that scene, including the golden retriever going nutso. Then Betty grabs her highlighted copy of the Feminine Mystique, drives to a series of fantastic job interviews, and then comes home to take the kids on a picnic after school.

    This will happen in Season 4, please? #madmenspoilers
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    10:45 AM

    In reply to January Jones Doesn't Believe In Mad Men Spoilers
    I don't understand people who get worked up about "spoilers." Some of my friends are fucking fanatic about it.

    "Did you watch Mad Men last night?"

    "OMGNODONTTELLMEANYTHINGLALALALALALAL...!"

    Dude. #madmenspoilers
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    10:46 AM

    @Penny: People are the same way with Lost. Drives me batshit. As if discussing it will ruin their lives. #madmenspoilers
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    10:47 AM

    @Penny: I understand that people TiVo shows instead of watching them "live" but the problem is that writers, bloggers, etc., can't anticipate or know others' viewing schedules and shouldn't be expected to tiptoe around them. My two cents! :) #madmenspoilers
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    10:48 AM

    @ElleL: Right? I mean, I would prefer not to know details, and I'll say, "oooh I haven't watched it don't give anything away!" But I'm not going to pee my pants over it.

    And the Internet. People, it's the INTERNET. You're going to see spoilers the day after if you haven't watched something. Deal with it or step away from the computer. #madmenspoilers
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    10:51 AM

    @Anna: I'm fine with bloggers-- I just don't read the things that contain spoilers. If I see posts about Mad Men, I don't read them, because I don't have cable but enjoy the show. But friends who post spoilers in status messages get defriended. Same goes for twitter.

    Thing is: more and more of us aren't just Tivo-ing, we're ditching cable altogether. Not to mention those of us who can't afford it in the first place. There's something elitist about people who have say, HBO and complain about those of us who don't, but enjoy HBO shows via DVD or iTunes, not wanting to have shows ruined for us. #madmenspoilers
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    10:51 AM

    @Anna: Well, the web can't quiet down just because a few people haven't watched the show yet.

    Damn, I am ornery this morning. #madmenspoilers
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    10:52 AM

    @Penny: seriously. The only "spoiler" I ever really went out of my way to avoid was the end of the Harry Potter books. It's just not the end of the world to me, I'll still enjoy the show, you know? #madmenspoilers
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    10:53 AM

    @funnyface: I iTunes and I've never had an issue with it....I don't know that I would say it's elitist. We've ditched cable as well, so I can't even watch MM.

    Status updates would be annoying, though, agreed. #madmenspoilers
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    10:53 AM

    @bluebears: I had Harry Potter books AND "The Sixth Sense" spoiled for me. #madmenspoilers
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    10:56 AM

    @funnyface: That's an interesting point re: people watching on computers instead of premium cable because of lower costs. I don't know if I'd say it's elitist, but then again, I may be misunderstanding you - have people complained to you that you don't have HBO? The DVDs are a different matter however. #madmenspoilers
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    10:56 AM

    @funnyface: ok, having The Sixth Sense spoiled would actually pretty much ruin that movie. boo.

    I also watch a lot of shows on netflix but I really don't mind spoilers, I've even watched some series (like Weeds and Madmen) totally out of order. #madmenspoilers
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    10:57 AM

    @Anna: No one has complained, it's mostly just friends who assume EVERYONE has premium cable and are like, what do you mean you don't have HBO? #madmenspoilers
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    10:59 AM

    @bluebears: The SS would seriously suck. #madmenspoilers
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    11:00 AM

    @funnyface: It's not elitist, because if it weren't for those of us who have cable, these shows wouldn't get produced in the first place. Where does one set the bar for these things, especially when it's their job to comment on and review the shows? Or even for those of us who want to discuss the show after we've seen it?

    Having said that, I've lived without cable before, and I know what it's like to exclude myself from the equation. But there is one plus-side: Holing yourself up at home and marathoning a show once it's on DVD with some takeout and weed. Heaven. #madmenspoilers
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    11:02 AM

    @Penny: Yes. This. Similarly with sporting events. If I'm trying to avoid watching a game to watch commercial free later, I know darn well not to go on the internet or check FB on my phone, because key details will be revealed. As a habitual DVR-er, I know well how to avoid spoilers and manage to do so all the time. Figure it out people. #madmenspoilers
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    11:03 AM

    @bananaballs: ha! BF and I had an impromptu 30 rock marathon last saturday (you can watch all of the episodes instantly on netflix) and it was amazing. I hadn't seem like, any of the first season. That show is really growing on me. #madmenspoilers
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    11:04 AM

    @funnyface: Ah gotcha. I was going to say: anyone who complains that you don't have HBO is either working for HBO or an asshole. #madmenspoilers
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    11:04 AM

    @bananaballs: Like I said, I don't have a problem with bloggers or paid reviewers. I just don't click on those posts/articles. I don't even mind people wanting to discuss it. But I don't get why those things have to happen in Facebook statuses or Tweets. Or a friend asking, "Hey, have you seen blah-blah yet?" before jumping into a discussion. (I've had friends say OMG can you believe [thing that happened on show which totally ruins show]?)

    Also, the hashtag system here on Jez works pretty good for creating pages to discuss shows/movies, when it's working-- #groupthink has been messed up lately (and yes, I emailed Hortense). #madmenspoilers
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    11:12 AM

    @Anna: Absolutely! Either watch it on time, or surf the web at your own risk until you do. #madmenspoilers
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    11:13 AM

    @Penny: I've seen people lose their shit over someone posting spoilers on facebook. Because half your news feed is watching and God forbid they mention a plot point. Just avoid the internet people! #madmenspoilers
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    12:55 PM

    @ElleL: If it's the next day, yes, that's stupid. But when the problem is time zones, that's a little different. I'm on the West Coast, and it doesn't seem fair that I should have to avoid Facebook every day from 5pm-8pm because I have friends and family on the East Coast. And honestly, they're usually good about waiting the three hours, sometimes with a little gentle reminding. (Or just being very vague, which is always acceptable.) #madmenspoilers
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    02:35 AM

    In reply to Prejean: "If I'm A Bigot So Is Obama"; Don And Betty's Future Revealed
    You know, as much as I dislike admitting it, Prejean kind of has a point in regards to Obama: irrespective of what we may think he may privately believe, he hasn't actually publicly supported gay marriage. And not doing so for political gain is a veeery cynical move, and say what you will about Prejean, but I personally don't think that she has the capacity for such cynicism.

    This is not to 'endorse' her or 'attack' Obama or whatever (and I actually can't even believe I have to state this as a disclaimer), but a runner-up beauty queen doesn't really have the same power or influence as the POTUS, and that's a very crucial point to make.

    (I kind of totes believe her on the Trump thing, tho. That man is a creeper, through and through!) #carrieprejean
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    08:29 AM

    @Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith: Yes, Prejean's statement is hardly shocking, but I guess there are a lot of people who want to believe Obama can do no wrong.
    But of course what Prejean wants is to claim that because she has the same bigotry as Obama she must also have some of his good qualities.
    Not so much. #carrieprejean
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    08:41 AM

    @Cellotape: Given her political views, I don't think it's too likely that she wants to claim any of his 'qualities,' don't you? #carrieprejean
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    09:18 AM

    @Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith: Good point! I guess I meant she hopes for some of his popularity. #carrieprejean
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    12:24 AM

    In reply to Prejean: "If I'm A Bigot So Is Obama"; Don And Betty's Future Revealed
    "legally recognized sacrament"

    see, when you put it this way it just sounds plain ol' unconstitutional. #carrieprejean
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    I don't even understand marriage's place in the Constitution anyway, if there is to be no establishment of religion.

    I am of the idea that the government shouldn't really get involved in marriage AT ALL...other than a marriage certificate being considered as legal proof for hospital visitation and the like. CIVIL UNIONS, from gay and straight couples, should be legally recognized. Marriage? That should be up to whatever church or organization marries you. If, say, civil unions were legal for anyone, but the Catholic church decided not to marry gays, fine. They can be a private institution. But the government has to marry anybody...which then gets into polygamy, which is insane and all, but I'm of the opinion that consenting adults can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't harm anybody else. *whew*
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    02:41 AM

    @first man: But civil unions ARE legal for everyone, aren't they? (Well, in the states where they actually have them, of course) #carrieprejean
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Bon Voyage, Betty! And Other Meditations On Mad Men
    Betty (and the rest of the women in the show) are a Rorschach test aren't they? Some project their hope that these proto-feminists will blossom into someone recognizable. Others think there is nothing there, just a blot. Others see their mothers. I see her with alot of depth (maybe I project that onto her;) because where there is nothing, there is something.
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    Image of Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
    11/10/09

    In reply to Prejean: "If I'm A Bigot So Is Obama"; Don And Betty's Future Revealed
    Oh, Carrie please go diddle yourself into pseudo-celebrity oblivion. I've grown tired of you. #carrieprejean
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    Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC was starred Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC was unstarred
    Image of maude_flanders maude_flanders
    11/10/09

    I want to hurt everyone who somehow thinks "marriage" is only a sacrament. Sorry, assholes, if you don't want gays getting married in your Church, great. Why the fuck don't they come out against heteros married by judges or other non-religious officials?

    Am I missing something? Why exactly can they still claim "marriage" as something that belongs to them, exclusively?

    @Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC: Seconded. She's as boring and stupid as every other cretin who makes themselves famous by being pretty (or plastic...Speidi?) on the outside, REALLY stupid on the inside, but all I can think when I see her (or Sarah Palin) is, "Fuck off, little girl. Go away, go away, go away." #carrieprejean
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    maude_flanders was starred maude_flanders was unstarred
    Image of kookla kookla
    11/10/09

    In reply to Prejean: "If I'm A Bigot So Is Obama"; Don And Betty's Future Revealed
    Spoiler alert. Some of us are only on Season 2 of Mad Men.

    Of course, I kid. It would have been so easy for me to not read it. It was just too tempting! #carrieprejean
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    kookla was starred kookla was unstarred
    Image of GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11) GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11)
    11/10/09

    @kookla: DAMMMMMMIT. Too late! Your warning was the first thing I read after reading the first line of that item. Boo. #carrieprejean
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    GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11) was starred GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11) was unstarred
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