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The Queen of No
05/08/09

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My libido depends on the person I'm with. I guess that's sad but eh.
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ArtfulSlinger
05/08/09

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I think Esquire doesnt get the constant turn around for men and women on Seinfeld. THERE WAS NOT TOO MANY STORY ARCS. There were four main characters, 3 male and 1 female. Lovers, boyfriends, girlfriends and the like had to constantly come in because it moved the show. And these four people were so devoid of normalcy to compare that to any other characters is bizarre.
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resonanteye
05/08/09

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Smart women have noticed the trend in men lately of con jobs/players/etc and lack of compassion, in general (see the term "cougar" and the sniggers about that).

It's reactionary to not want sex any more; when you've been disrespected it's hard to get a wet-on.
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EuniceSternwah
05/08/09

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sex was over by the year 2000, the rest of you haven't caught on yet. 1 out of every 4 people has herpes, by the way... a fraction of those know they have it cuz it's not in the regular screen for STDs, you have to ask for it. surprise!
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rocknrollunicorn
05/08/09

@EuniceSternwah: Are you... quoting Valtrex commercials?
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kelsium
05/08/09

@EuniceSternwah: What?
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lucyjae
05/08/09

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The girl totally wants to have sex in Twilight. The boy makes her wait. Which I wasn't expecting from good old Mormon Stephanie Meyer. She kind of flips it, *SPOILER ALERT* making sex a reason for the marriage averse girl to get married. Although they do wait until after they're married, which is what it is. They kind of frame in the context of him being born in another century and kind of holding onto those values. Which helped me with it. Sorry, I lost my mind recently and have become a Twilight defender.
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undomesticgoddess doesn't sleep a wink
05/08/09

@lucyjae: Thank you for typing my post for me. All of it, even down to the last sentence.
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BeSarcastic
05/08/09

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I miss Elaine Benes. Her wall of hair, her suit jackets over dresses, her white socks with comfy shoes, her nipple-bearing Christmas card, her temper, her love of the sponge, her bad-liar ways, her deep laugh.

That being said, I love Liz Lemon, too.

Don't make me choose. Two women with different interests/desires can coexist on my TV without the world folding in on itself.
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TheUptightMidwesterner
05/08/09

@BeSarcastic: Oh! Don't forget the "Schnaaaaps!"!!
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gherkinfiend
05/08/09

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This formerly loose woman gave up having sex because the only men she was meeting couldn't be bothered to play nice in another area of life apart from sex. And it got tiresome to be treated like a sex toy.

So until things change the only thing accompanying me to bed is a good book.
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rocknrollunicorn
05/08/09

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Robin on How I Met Your Mother is, I guess, "loose." And smart. And Canadian.

Lily might be married, but she's very sexual as well. Christ I love that show.
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Catrena
05/08/09

@rocknrollunicorn: I came in here to post them!
Lily is more sexual then Marshall most of the time and Robin is very smart and you hear her talk about sex as much as the guys... well maybe not quite as much as Barney.
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rocknrollunicorn
05/08/09

@Catrena: I'd say she rivals Barney but has more tact. Seriously the characters on that show are a win for everyone.
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Dodgergirl
05/08/09

@rocknrollunicorn: I was coming in here to go "Robin. Scherbatsky." She loves sex. And I loved last week when Barney was going on and on about his "200th" and he noticed how Robin was sitting there, suspiciously not commenting.
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Sandicomm
05/08/09

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1) As if there is anything wrong with losing your virginity in your mid-twenties! I highly doubt I'll lose mine by the time I leave college, and that is totally fine with me. I'd rather have my first time be with someone I care about, not do it when I should do it.

2) As I recall, Elaine's sexuality was played for laughs, right? Because she was so desperate to be like the guys but also to have the Perfect Family. Sounds like a healthy role model. I'd rather have Liz.
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garconne est grise
05/08/09

@Sandicomm: I don't remember anything about her wanting to have the Perfect Family. She was pretty obsessed with contraception and dumped the perfect guy b/c he wasn't pro-choice.
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resonanteye
05/08/09

@garconne: THE SPONGE!
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ArtfulSlinger
05/08/09

@Sandicomm: Elaine actually didnt want a perfect family and she wasnt one of the guys. She was her own being.
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Specialk
05/08/09

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Julia Louis-Dreyfus is still loose as Christine in The New Adventures of Old Christine. It's a pretty funny show with complex a female central character.
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misspell
05/08/09

@Specialk: Yeah, and she was pretty loose (but a nutcase) on Arrested Development.
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YourScreenplaySucks
05/08/09

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Putting aside his needs - and what men like Marche want for a moment - wouldn't a smart, ambitious woman who has a healthy (meaning active) sex life be a great role model for women?

If you feel good about your sex life, whether it's active or not, it's healthy. A woman who is portrayed as partaking or not partaking in sex as she pleases & not feeling pressured to do otherwise is a great role model for women.
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ritualtheory
05/08/09

@Your Screenplay Sucks: Oh, Voice of Reason, you're not telling Marche what he wants to hear. (But you're telling me what I want to hear.)
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clairedeloony
05/08/09

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Liz Lemon is great precisely because she is not meant to be a role model to her audience. If she's representative of our collective loss of interest in sex, she's also representative of our collective desire to eat entire cheese plates late at night while filling Snuggies with our farts.

Well, okay, she's a role model to me.
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rocknrollunicorn
05/08/09

@clairedeloony: Sometimes I hate Liz Lemon (I'm like the anti-Liz) and then I remember that every character on that show is a CARICATURE heavily based on stereotypes. Every single one. So, yeah, definitely not a role model.
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Nuckin Futz for you
05/08/09

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I read the title "Are women these days not into sex" and almost shrieked out WHAT sitting at my desk! I dont know where he gets his facts but they hopefully arent based solely on TV shows. We are all different, some love sex and can't get enough, some enjoy it when there is time, some find more signifigance in more intimate things. It's all normal. I'd say they haven't gone everywhere, and who is to say they need to run around telling everyone about it!
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hilkaryic
05/08/09

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I think he needs a healthy dose of Rock of Love.
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Tippi Hedren
05/08/09

@hilkaryic: I wouldn't necessarily call those young ladies "brilliant, funny and powerful."
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special_boots
05/08/09

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"But it is interesting that lately, the female characters in the entertainment zeitgeist - from Pam on The Office to the shrill duo of Bride Wars to the chaste, bloodless pairing in Twilight - have sex as the last thing on their minds."

Whoa, buddy. Twilight's Bella is OBSESSED with sex. It's the bf who refuses to have it, for various retarded allegorical reasons. She thinks/talks about it CONSTANTLY. And when they finally have sex, the book goes ON and ON and ON about it.

Definitely not a good example.
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