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sciencerules
10/19/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
I'd introduce her to my fiance, a straight male who loves the gym, but I'm sure she'd just tell me he's too short for her. #lizjones
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Mrs. Stephen Fry
10/19/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
They pretty much pay her to write stupid shit, don't they? That's the only way I can make sense of her ridiculous articles. #lizjones
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RollsRoyceRevenge
10/19/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
Here's why we gay men are always oiled, Liz.

So when you launch yourself at us, you slide riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... the fuck off. #lizjones
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iliad2099
10/19/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
I'm left wondering if all the fit men she meets pretend to be gay so she'll leave them alone. #lizjones
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whats_in_a_name
10/19/09

@iliad2099: shhh, you'll let their secret out. #lizjones
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RollsRoyceRevenge
10/19/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
Could one of you good ladies hold a mirror up to her face for about, oh, three seconds? Either she will go mad from non-ironic self-assessment or be blinded by flying glass. Either way she will be unable to write anymore of her bullshit cunty little sniffy bitch columns.

I'd do it myself but I'm afraid Dr. Irene Double-Barrell Whatsherfuckinguselessface will get on my case about it being only something fags could possibly like to do. #lizjones
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Log1c
10/19/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
What the fuck is a duvet cover? #lizjones
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FrannyR
10/19/09

@Log1c: [en.lmgtfy.com] #lizjones
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RollsRoyceRevenge
10/19/09

@Log1c: Something you buy when you realize, belatedly, that you weren't intelligent enough to buy something attractive in the first place. See also: throw pillows. #lizjones
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Log1c
10/19/09

@RollsRoyceRevenge, et al.: Hmm... wouldn't you think she would complain about men not being able to change a flat tire or something.

I'm confident in my ability to both make my bed and change the blankets, but I don't believe that makes me manly. #lizjones
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Mrs. Stephen Fry
10/19/09

@Log1c: You cover a feather/poly-filled duvet with a cover. A lot of people use as their main coverage in bed with no top sheet. #lizjones
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
10/19/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
Gay men "stay in shape, and [are] all smooth and oiled", you say?

Oh Liz Jones, let me introduce you to my flatmate... #lizjones
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JessickerFletcher
10/18/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
I feel sorry for her. It must've been difficult to miss out on evolution. : ( #lizjones
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JessickerFletcher
10/18/09

@JessickerFletcher: Well that's okay because I have the perfect guy for her! #lizjones
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10/18/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
The thing that is saddest about this is that you can hear the despair in her writing.

I mean, as she goes on with these articles you can begin to understand how she is losing touch with reality.

Thank god she has an outlet, otherwise she would just be the crazy woman in "Waking Ned Devine". #lizjones
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hovy
10/18/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
"I wonder why it is that gay men like to stay in shape, and be all smooth and oiled."

Oh, that's precious. Did I somehow miss that this was Gay Stereotypes Weekend?

Newsflash: Not all gay men are in shape, smooth or oiled. Some of us have beer guts, beards and, gasp, wear jeans - daily! So keep on hating, hater.

#stupidshitstraightpeoplesay
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femme-bot
10/18/09

@hovy: I thought gay men were too busy adoring skinny women (to make REAL women feel bad) than to stay in shape!? #lizjones
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boxspelunker
10/18/09

@hovy: Nu-uhhh! Gay men all go to the clubs and dance all the time, so you know they have to be in shape. I mean, everyone knows you can't dance if you aren't thin! #lizjones
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CraftyBroad
10/18/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
Yesterday I read a post at SmartBitches that I can't help but compare to this one. The Bitches point out a rising number of articles in various places about a type of hero in literature. They quote an article where the author describes these men as "purse-holders", maybe not the most romantic of titles but apt nonetheless. These are the men who can be seen in any cancer clinic waiting room, they accompany their wives and partners and when those women are called to go in for their radiation treatment, they stand take a deep breath and hand their purse to their husband, who then sits in the waiting room gripping that purse until they come back. They show up to every appointment, and are there to make dinner when she can't get out of bed, and holds her when she cries.

He changes the light bulbs when they need it, takes out the trash without asking and makes sure that things are fixed, because he wants his partner to be safe. He will fill your car with gas we he notices it is low, knows what your favorite tea is, and buys you a DVD he knows you will love, even though he can't stand it. He's there, day in and day out. He stands by through thick and thin, death and taxes.

The comments were loaded with women who have experience with this version of a romantic hero. I cried for over an hour reading those comments. Those women who have found their own version of a "purse-holder" would probably tell Ms. Jones that she is missing the entire point about the true value of a good man. While no one is saying that personal appearance isn't important, I would argue that Ms. Jones hasn't had a relationship with a man which was deep enough to discover if he is a purse-holder or not. Because if she had ever discovered the true value in such a man, she would realize her article was filled with superficial drivel. #lizjones
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ladyfalcon is skin deep
10/19/09

@CraftyBroad: Given the choice between someone to slay me a mastodon and someone who will stick with me through all the changes of life, from delightful to disastrous, I know which one I'd choose.

The mastodon is safe from me. #lizjones
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ImperfectLit.Woman
10/19/09

@#lizjones. Well said and I think that's what most intelligent normal people look for in a partner. Sadly for Liz,these are the type of men who are wimps to her. I need to check out SmartBitches now.
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CraftyBroad
10/19/09

@ImperfectLit.Woman: I found Jezebel through SmartBitches. Their blog is primarily one focused on their love of romance novels, but they also divert from that into other things. If snarky, intelligent articles are your thing then check them out. Another plus is that they have a pool commenters which are on a par with the Jezebel commenters, and let's face it that is hard to find. #lizjones
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ImperfectLit.Woman
10/20/09

@CraftyBroad: Yep, snarky intelligent articles and commenters are totally my thing. I now have Smartbitches saved in my bookmarks along with Jezebel. #lizjones
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voteforme
10/18/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
She's attacking physical appearance, but the subtext is that she wants men to act stereotypically masculine, a very dangerous thing for a modern woman to assert. Sorry Liz: the guy I'm currently "hanging out" with tells me about his feelings and never devalues me. He often agrees with my opinions! I win, Liz. #lizjones
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amazoncowgirl
10/18/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
Living in Australia, I'm really only familiar with the Daily Mail through reading Jezebel stories, which is a shame because it seems like such an edifying read! So, if any Brits out there can assist, I'd be grateful. Whe exactly is the demographic that reads it? Fellow shallow, judgemental snots prone to making sweeping statements and gross generalisations like Ms Jones?

I'm struggling to understand how she's still employed. #lizjones
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Arginusae
10/18/09

@amazoncowgirl: Daily Mail readers? I'd say conservative and mostly defined by what they hate: in no particular order, immigrants, the "nanny state" (their words), the Labour party, feminism ("what more do they want?"), "political correctness", that kind of things.

It's an extremely gossipy tabloid, so the articles are mostly tacky and often nasty/falsely concerned stories about celebrities and semi-celebrities, plus horror stories about people being attacked horribly in their homes ("This is what 12 years of Labour have turned England into."), how the NHS sucks, etc etc.... #lizjones
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TessDuberville
10/18/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
Next on Liz' hit list: puppies and kittens! #lizjones
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JennaW
10/19/09

@TessDuberville: Well, and what good are they? All fluffy and with their fur getting on one's perfectly-tailored black skirt. Little monsters. And have you noticed? Most of them are *quite* chubby! #lizjones
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Highsmith
10/18/09

In reply to Liz Jones: "What Poor, Sad Creatures Modern Men Are. What Wimps. What Wastes Of Space."
"a genetic tendency to have the humility to take care of themselves, rather than being an arrogant straight bastard who believes, despite the beer gut and nasal hair, he is catnip."

I have to agree with her on that one. #lizjones
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Pandorasvoicebox
10/18/09

@Highsmith: Yeah, that part resonated with me too. Except the point is that it's not genetic. It's learned. The moment you condemn men to their genes, you give up on them and accept that this is how life will always be. If only our society understood that it's our brainwashing that makes (some, not all) men this way. Then we could start to do something about it. #lizjones
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Highsmith
10/18/09

@Pandorasvoicebox: I'm amazed no one has picked up on this quote in the article

"This man was writing in response to a feminist who was championing the right for women to get off the dieting treadmill: ‘My fear that a woman with the legal power to take half of my possessions might some day become so fat and sexually unappealing that I’d sooner cut my own penis off than have sex with the manatee that used to be my wife is unfortunately all too common,’ he types with one finger (men have not yet evolved sufficiently to be able to touch-type)."

This kind of sentiment is all too common. I therefore think it's perfectly alright for LJ to address modern man's physique (or lack thereof). Why shouldn't men be held to the same standards they hold women to? #lizjones
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AgainWithFeeling
10/18/09

@Highsmith: But that kind of sentiment is, as I'm sure we all agree, all kinds of sucko. It makes me really angry to read stuff like that, and I totally understand the impulse to want to even things out, but I don't really see the point in coming back at men with essentially the same thing. The point is that ragging on people for their bodies is a shitty thing to do; why perpetuate it? #lizjones
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boxspelunker
10/18/09

@AgainWithFeeling: I echo this sentiment. I think that culturally-imposed standards are too high for women, and should therefore be lowered. Men's standards of appearance for themselves are fine, I think. #lizjones
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