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The Queen of No
03/27/09

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I'm mostly disturbed that that one young girl doesn't have any imagination! "They don't even match!" Shut it, kid.
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Flackette Goes Retro
03/27/09

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Is the mom in the first clip wearing pants? It looks like she just has panties on.
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Mafalda para Presidente
03/26/09

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So your point of reference when judging your child's talent is Anna Nichole Smith? OH FOR THE LOVE OF @#%#^%&!
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goodcheapfun
03/26/09

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Is this phenomenon (crazy pageant moms) regionally specific or is this shit a nation wide crazy fest?
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Mafalda para Presidente
03/26/09

@goodcheapfun: I have a feeling it's more common in the South, but I might be wrong.
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EvieB
03/26/09

@Mafalda para Presidente: My friend told me that his fiance really wants her future daughters to be in pageants. He is freaked out, to say the least, and reconsidering if he wants to make babies with her. :(

We are in the South.
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SouthernSatine
03/27/09

@EvieB: Now wait. She wants her daughters to do pageants when they are of an acceptable pageant age? Like when they can decide that they actually want to do them and win scholarship money? Because, I mean, I have a ton of friends who did pageants in high school (yes, I'm from Mississippi) and their winnings helped pay for college. But it's one thing to do pageants at 16, and it is an entirely different thing have your child doing them at 4.
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Flackette Goes Retro
03/27/09

@EvieB: I know a guy whose wife (a Ph.D. student in psychology) has already announced any daughters they have will be in pageants. I'm like "seriously? You're studying for a doctorate in psychology and you think this is a good idea?" (I am also in the South)
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Flackette Goes Retro
03/27/09

@SouthernSatine: If the parent is that into it, I imagine the girls will be started early. I did a couple of pageants in high school, and actually did win some scholarship money. My parents supported me, but never really encouraged it.
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MarissaExplainsItAll
03/26/09

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I'll be honest, if someone was talking mess about my sister, I would react exactly like the girl in the first clip. I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing, but it is what it is.
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gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy
03/26/09

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The little girl in the second clip is not only pretty all on her own, without all the glitzy crap, but can compose a sentence rather well. She should compete in that instead.

Pageant Lady: What's your talent, dear?
Blonde Girl: Composing neat sentences to ugly fat demon women! Curtsy.
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Dictator for Life
03/26/09

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I've wondered why all the moms are rather large as well, so I can't fault that girl for noticing. Did they have child pageants 30 years ago? Were these moms in child pageants themselves? If not, why did they decide their kids need to be in them?
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Tippi Hedren
03/26/09

@Dictator for Life: I don't know about 30 years ago, but they definitely had them 20 years ago.

I don't get the impression that these moms competed in pageants themselves, but that they are insecure and living vicariously through their daughters. They might think that if other people validate their children's beauty, then they must be beautiful too.
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HoneyMcLoveseat
03/26/09

@Dictator for Life:
I always think about this while watching the show, and then I imagine the little girls growing into fat women who look at their old pageant photos and weep at the fact that they "peaked" at age 7 due to the standards of beauty ingraned into their psyche.
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Tippi Hedren
03/26/09

@challygirl: Oh my gosh, that made me feel so sad to read...
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bananaprincess
03/26/09

Nah I'm still dancing for joy, 36 years later@challygirl: but in mine you did cool stuff like learning to paddle a canoe and having a quick private interview with judges. Apparently I told them I liked jumping on beds. I had a great time.
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bananaprincess
03/26/09

Also my mum won heaps of pagents as a Aussie teenager and she always says " better to be a has been than a never was". We love her pagent photos.@BananaPrincesswith Braiiins:
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dirtybee
03/26/09

@Pilar Ternera: Nailed it right on the head.
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Flackette Goes Retro
03/27/09

@Dictator for Life: They definitely did. I'm 29 and people thought my mom was weird because she would never enter me in the baby pageants.
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pink_orchid_martini
03/26/09

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that board need a hortense but i think taking away all those vowels would lead to a serious sotrage problem for her.
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Ms. Crankypants
03/26/09

@pink_orchid_martini: Can you imagine trying to moderate that?
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Frequentlywrong
03/26/09

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YOu know these MOms have google alerts about this crap, so now they are reading this Jez post about themselves being snarky asshats....

the cirle of life. or at least the interwebs
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
03/26/09

@Frequentlywrong: Good. I hope they're reading this right now.

LISTEN UP! GRETCHEN SAYS YOU'RE BEING BAD MOTHERS! SO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! LOOKS AREN'T EVERYTHING. COSTUMES ARE JUST COSTUMES. EDUCATION LAST FOREVER. CLIMB TREES. PLAY SPORTS. BE LITTLE GIRLS FOR A CHANGE.

Thank you for tolerating that rant. I think I feel a little better now....
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Frequentlywrong
03/26/09

@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: That was a well done rant!!!

I love dress-up too, and I even love doing BIG hair, last year my daughter was a zombie/princess cheerleader for halloween: BIG Jersery hair, Notre Dame cheerleader uniform, tiara and gobs of scabby makeup, she looked adorable.
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Snowbunny
03/27/09

@Frequentlywrong: It's like three halloweens mixed up in one awesome costume.
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gold_gato
03/26/09

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The blond hairpiece just chilling on the kitchen table is priceless.
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ImDatNinja (loves her Red Sox)
03/26/09

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I just get mad seeing lil girls in pageants. They should be playing with legos or making up dances.
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Tippi Hedren
03/26/09

@ImDatNinja (loves hobo stew): Oh yes, "Dance Routine" was my favorite game. All you need is a boom box, an MC Hammer tape, and the neighbor girl (to compete against).
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ImDatNinja (loves her Red Sox)
03/26/09

@Pilar Ternera: and 5, 6, 7 , 8.
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
03/26/09

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I've just had my *snap* #15 of the day. That mother sat there and read the horrid, nasty post her other daughter had made on the stupid pageant board and ACTUALLY ALLOWED HER TO DO SO??!!

Moses in a basket. I teach and we have drama on a daily basis that all started by kids making stupid, unkind posts or sending outrageously cruel IMs and texts after school hours. How could this mother POSSIBLY allow her daughter to say such vicious, cruel things about adults? Does she not believe in teaching her to respect ALL adults?

AAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH
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velveteen is living on your letters.
03/26/09

@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: or just respect all people in general. one time, I told my mom that I told a kid [who said that he would high-five the kid who made a BOMB THREAT against our school twice and put us in lock down] that I didn't like him and thought he was immature, and she was like "OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT. BE NICE!"
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onestrawplz
03/26/09

@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: The adults were saying nasty, cruel things about this girl's little sister.

Some of the insults weren't very nice ("cottage cheese butt"), but they were picking on children, and I think the girl was pointing out that the moms aren't perfect, so they should stfu and stop picking on little girls.

I dunno, I found myself getting more angry over the grown women insulting a 10 year old than I did about a 13 year old defending her sister.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
03/26/09

@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: I'm more horrified by the fact that she sat there and read the posts about the sister out loud in front of both girls! I agree with the other mom. Why would you let your child read those boards or be on them at all? Definitely don't read the bitchy posts about your child out loud!

Comparatively, at least the other daughter was sticking up for her sister even in a flame warry fashion.
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
03/26/09

@onestrawplz: Its more the issue that the adult would think it justifiable for their child to insult ANYONE. And yes, there are mothers here who are certainly setting a bad example.

I'm dealing with a little gem in one of my classes right now. It is clear this girl never had boundaries or rules. She absolutely refuses to follow any rule if it isn't what she wants to do. She speaks horribly about others - both students and teachers. I simply asked her to stop talking today when I had started to teach and her response was *eyeroll* "Bitch".

Mom says she hasn't been able to control her since she was 2. She's started 3 fights in the past month through her obnoxious texts which are designed to bring on the drama. Mom still refuses to take her cell or limit her computer time. I found out today that mom now has a civil suit pending against her for libel or something similar - she hacked another mother's MySpace page and, when caught, fully admitted to it with a "So what?" thrown in to boot.

I just hate to see parents setting poor examples or encouraging the type of behavior pictured in this clip.
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LaFemme
03/26/09

@velveteen: I would also say that you should respect all people but you don't have to like everyone. I don't even think your comment was mean at all. Some kid pulls a bomb threat and your assessment is that he is immature and you are not a fan? Totally fair. The kids a little punk, period.

I especially don't like it that it always seems like people want GIRLS to be nice all the time. I am sorry, in something like the above situation I dont have a problem at all with calling it like you see it.
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
03/26/09

@MissSkittles is not your kind of lady: Sticking up for her, yes. But the way she did this? No. Two wrongs don't make a right. The mom should be teaching that concept to her daughters but instead she's reading the stupid insulting messages aloud to them! Then thinks responding in kind is an appropriate action.

Oh this is just all sorts of NO.
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onestrawplz
03/26/09

@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: Ok, fair enough.

That is horrible. What a little brat...and she seems hopeless if her mom is glaringly immature herself...I mean, stop being a "bff" and start being a parent. Real classy family you have on your hands, sorry you have to deal with that.

*weeping for society*
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onestrawplz
03/26/09

@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: These "parents" (if you can call them that) are stuck in perpetual adolescence. It scares me that people like that actually exist, and are breeding.
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ShinyMcShine
03/26/09

@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: I don't know...I don't have kids, so I may radically change my tune someday, but I kind of feel uncomfortable with the "respect all adults" blanket statement. Some people, such as those who make nasty, hurtful comments about a child in a public forum, don't really deserve respect.

That said, two wrongs don't make a right and all that, so I wouldn't have allowed my daughter to say that stuff either.
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LaFemme
03/26/09

@ShinyMcShine: I would never allow my daughter to even see that stuff if I could help it, but if she did see it, I would probably be like "see? There are some adults that never mature; don't pay attention to people like this." /Exit screen. If she found it by herself and defended her sister, I would probably say something similar like "stay away from reading that stuff, those people are toxic." I would not, on the other hand, have anything to say to her about respecting those assholes because they are adults.
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Ms. Crankypants
03/26/09

@ShinyMcShine: I'm not a big fan of "respect all adults" either. My parents were more into making sure you treated people decently/civilly whether you like/respect them or not. Respect for someone can be lost & deservedly as in the case of trash-talking pageant moms, but everyone deserves to be treated with civility.

@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpani, doggone it): My mom's a teacher & she often deals with crap like this and, except in extreme or unusual circumstances (ie. medical disorder) it's totally the parent's fault & their responsibility, but a lot seem to give up around age 2 when things get tough. Sigh.
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Ms. Crankypants
03/26/09

@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: and hugs, you have a tough job.
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boxspelunker
03/26/09

@Ms. Crankypants: This was an argument I used to have with my mom whenever she had to come to an event that my dad would also be at. She'd be pissy and angry and be like, "I DON'T RESPECT HIM AND I AM ENTITLED TO MY FEELINGS." Yes, mom, but you can be civil to him and not start yelling at him like you did last time. Civility =/= respect.
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GirlTakeItEasy
03/26/09

@Gretchen (hates insurance adjusters and will get new timpan...: See, I think the older sister's post would have been totally within reason if she had stopped before the "thunder thighs" bit. Saying that you don't approve of grown women sitting around and bashing little kids is fine. Calling them all fat is sinking to their level.
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limber
03/26/09

@GirlTakeItEasy: The problem is, any sort of response to that sort of stuff encourages it to continue. There's just no upside; the bitches on that site certainly aren't going to back down from their bitching, and now it's made the older sister both invested and a target. It's not healthy for a preteen to be emotionally invested in a flamewar with supposedly grown women. It's also not healthy for the younger sister to see her older sister upset if this escalates, because in a way she could see it as her fault.

There really is no upside here. The parent should never have shared the site with her daughters, and if she absolutely MUST read it, then just store that information away and don't act on it.

I can't imagine going through school with the sort of social networking and instant communication now available. Nightmare.
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neitherherenorthere
03/27/09

@Ms. Crankypants: What a total copout though. Haven't been able to control a kid since 2? 2? Two? When it still requires some mental fluidity to translate what they are saying? Two? When one is still quite a bit physically larger than the child? Two, when all power is actually within the realm of the parent?
Things aren't tough at two. Things are easy at two. Granted, they are more obnoxious at two than at 1. But they are still controllable. Sure, honey, have skittles for dinner (it'll shut her up and I don't have to deal with her whining and crying and carrying on). The problem is, the kid, and the rest of society, get to pay for a parent's lack of spine and gumption. I was wrassling my two year old into time out, holding her there, and counting down with the timer. Sucked. But it worked. God, I am so sick of people putting it on the KID at 2 years old. What a crock. The KID was uncontrollable? No, the kid was perfectly controllable. The parent just didn't want to BOTHER making the effort. God I'm glad it's friday. Humanity has just been pissing me off all week.
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Ms. Crankypants
03/27/09

@neitherherenorthere: Sorry missed your point about 2 - I agree they're controllable, it just seems that that's when they start exerting their willpower & are more mobile/talkative & that's the age when lazy/inept parents often say it all started to go downhill, as opposed to what you did, which is to maintain parental control.
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gold_gato
03/26/09

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What a phenomenal reference! Some people struggle to come up with endings to zingers but the ghost of ANS with a marching band is top notch.
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Tippi Hedren
03/26/09

@gold_gato: I almost feel like that's this mom's idea of Heaven.
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onehotmess
03/26/09

@Pilar Ternera: its MY idea of heaven.
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HerdingCats
03/26/09

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Is Anna Nicole the standard of beauty / "giltz" that these moms are aiming for? If so, that explains a lot about the wardrobe, make-up, and accessories they choose for their kids.

I don't know if it's sad or inspiring that the older daughters in both these clips seemed to have triple the common sense of their mothers. I guess if they survived, maybe there's hope for their little sisters.
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
03/26/09

@HerdingCats: Last time I checked, Anna Nicole was a former topless dancer who was pretty open about her implants and plastic surgery. This poor woman had septic boils on her ass at the time of her death from injecting HGH and other substances in a desperate attempt to stay thin enough for the public. If anything she is a figure to be pitied, not one to hold up as an example to 'beat'.

These mothers are sick.
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Abra
03/26/09

@HerdingCats: She said it as though Anna Nicole was some kind of patron saint of pageantry. Horrible.
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axel_f
03/26/09

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the little girl in the second clip is cut from the same cloth as the 'rocket science'idiot on judge judy
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Snowbunny
03/27/09

@axel_f: Seriously. I know that proving your mom wrong is a cherished past-time at the age of 15, but that was just painful.

"Anna Nicole...is dead..." Waver waver waver
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