The thing that seems kind of stupid about this gloss is that on top of all of the restrictions about it not working in wine or fruit juice drinks is that most "date"-rapes take place when a woman has had nothing more than alcohol. Because that's the point of these drugs, to incapacitate you in the way alcohol does, or to speed up the effects of alcohol.
The notion that date rapes only take place after drinks are spiked does give women a false sense of security that as long as their drinks are clean, they'll be fine. This gloss definitely doesn't help that.
And honestly, I've heard people say things like, "well was she actually date-raped, was she roofied? or did she just drink too much and make a bad decision?" There is this notion that a date-rape can't really happen unless someone has been drugged with a benzo or GHB. As always, the problem seems to be getting men to realize that "having sex" with a woman who can't say no is rape.
GHB is very common, so in terms of safety, I think this is a "good thing." G doesn't put someone out for hours like roofies or K, but its' availability and the speed with which it acts make it pretty attractive to young men who don't play fair.
I dated a wild-woman some years ago that used G recreationally - one night, she passed out twice for 5 minutes at a time at our booth just after returning from the bathroom. No one gave it much of a thought except me... This was in LA, at a dance-club w/ a $40 cover, in the late 90's and G was very popular then.
@Jack_Burton: I think GHB is much more commonly used as a recreational drug than as a date-rape drug. I have friends who use it, and they say it's very salty when mixed in a drink.
It's scary though, right? I mean, they say it just speeds up the effects of alcohol, but when your date or friend passes out, you wonder how easy it would be to mis-dose it, and for something worse than passing out to happen. Very stupid.
This doesn't work on wine? Gah, red wine is the date rapist's favourite thing to spike as the colour and smell hide even powdered drugs well, plus more women will probably order this than a fruity cocktail.
But then again, when I got drug-raped, the bartender spiked my glass of water with GHB, so I'm probably not the person to ask...
I think the lip gloss itself should turn blue if you take a sip of your drink and it was date rape spiked, that way everybody can look out for each other, and if we see somebody with blue lips you know they are either freezing to death or about to be taken avantage of. Either way get them the hell out of the water.
@likepenguins: As a cynic, I don't see a place where that world could ever exist. Men and women have been poisoning each other since the beginning of time.
Wow. How utterly-scamalicious. If only a.) you couldn't buy the test separately on a coaster for 75 CENTS ([www.testsymptomsathome.com]) and b.) the test actually worked even for ketamine ([www.wsaw.com]).
If the lip gloss itself somehow functioned as the drug test (I don't know, maybe you'd smear it on a napkin and add a drop of the drink or whatever), I could get the appeal. And, you know, if it worked a little more generally. But I could see why it could be nice to have something so covert.
As it is, you can get those testing cards, and lip gloss, a lot more cheaply.
Does the 2LoveMyLips website mention what law firm represents the company, how to get in touch with them, and perhaps provide helpful tips on filing a class-action lawsuit? Because anyone who takes this dubious product seriously and relies on it for protection will probably eventually need that information.
This product would be 78% more awesome if it turned the date-rapist-to-be's lips blue (and maybe burned them with acid) instead of turning the innocent victim into a blue-lipped freakshow.
how about this for safety? make sure you go to the bar, get your own drink and watch the bartender while the drink is poured and go to the bathroom prior so that you don't leave your drink unattended.
i'd rather spend $16 on my own safety by using my brain rather than relying on a lip gloss to do it for me.
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The notion that date rapes only take place after drinks are spiked does give women a false sense of security that as long as their drinks are clean, they'll be fine. This gloss definitely doesn't help that.
And honestly, I've heard people say things like, "well was she actually date-raped, was she roofied? or did she just drink too much and make a bad decision?" There is this notion that a date-rape can't really happen unless someone has been drugged with a benzo or GHB. As always, the problem seems to be getting men to realize that "having sex" with a woman who can't say no is rape.
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I dated a wild-woman some years ago that used G recreationally - one night, she passed out twice for 5 minutes at a time at our booth just after returning from the bathroom. No one gave it much of a thought except me... This was in LA, at a dance-club w/ a $40 cover, in the late 90's and G was very popular then.
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It's scary though, right? I mean, they say it just speeds up the effects of alcohol, but when your date or friend passes out, you wonder how easy it would be to mis-dose it, and for something worse than passing out to happen. Very stupid.
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But then again, when I got drug-raped, the bartender spiked my glass of water with GHB, so I'm probably not the person to ask...
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I think if we are going to deal with topics like this, we should pay them more than just lip service.
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Just because you wear "seductive" lipstick doesn't mean you deserve to be a victim.
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And I think it's possible that maybe seeing the gloss in your purse might act as a reminder to always be vigilant.
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Maybe not great, but the vision of it makes me laugh. "Thank you for this mai tai. Excuse me just a moment while I test for date rape drugs."
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As it is, you can get those testing cards, and lip gloss, a lot more cheaply.
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i'd rather spend $16 on my own safety by using my brain rather than relying on a lip gloss to do it for me.
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Something about bedazzled tattoo prints says "date rapist" to me.