Ooh, this is dangerous, but I am going to say it. I agree with Bill Clinton. There are millions of women with NOTHING. No abortion coverage, no flu shots, no cancer treatments, no prenatal care, nothing. I can easily say I won't except anything less than total coverage, but I already have insurance, and frankly I don't have anything to lose. There are lots of women and children with a lot to gain, even if it isn't perfect. I say something for them is a hell of a lot better than continuing with the healthcare abyss they are living in right now.
There. Now I will accept the whipping that follows. #healthnuts
Sorry, yeah-- you don't get to pull the "come on ladies, time for a little martyrdom for the cause-- that is what REALLY make a strong woman, suffering for others, right?" card.
No duh, a bill isn't going to be perfect. The only people who argue pieces of law can be perfect are religious fundamentalists, & a quick perusal of their texts will tell you how silly that is. It doesn't mean that you get to throw in actually evil legistlation just to hope that people (who weren't going to vote for it) might vote for it...& then don't.
Strip the stupid Stupak-Pitts & then get back to me about "not perfect." #healthnuts
If universal health care means eliminating my access to choice through my private insurance plan, then consarn it, I don't want it. I am prepared to use as much frontier gibberish as it takes to express my outrage. What the sam hill? #healthnuts
@morninggloria: Dadgum tootin. I'd rather have nothing than something with this Stupid-Farts amendment. It's slap-your-grandma bad.
Although if the Senate will also stop covering Viagra, then I might consider it. I mean, did these menfolk ever consider that maybe God gave them a limp penis to control population? So says my religion, and if it's my religion then it must also be the official religion of America or else I'm going to sit here and bitch about how we're all going to hell in a handbasket.
@morninggloria: Sorry to get all serious on your frontier-gibberish, but you have private health insurance. When you say you'd rather have access to choice through your private insurance than universal health care, you're basically saying that you'd rather have your plan cover abortions than for me to have any health insurance at all. I hate the Stupak amendment, but from my perspective anyone currently with insurance is sitting pretty. I'd much rather everyone, including me, get basic care than ensure that some lucky people with insurance get another procedure paid for. I get nothing paid for, and I'm not a healthy person. #healthnuts
@archipelagic: (I was mostly being sarcastic, hence the inclusion of frontier gibberish. It's my preferred medium of expressing faux-outrage. Faux-trage?
Of course I'd prefer for everyone to have health care.) #healthnuts
@morninggloria: Ah, that's what I thought at first, but it was a little hard to tell with the replies and all. Sorry, I guess I'm sensitive! #healthnuts
What exactly is "good" about passing a bill that won't change anything? I understand the Democrats want to get this passed as soon as possible, but is that really worth it when they're willing to sacrifice everything that was supposed to make health care better? This whole thing is such a mess. #healthnuts
I'm so glad, at the very least, that it seems people aren't letting this travesty go unnoticed and condoning hypocrisy and unlawfulness by ignoring it.
I hope they stop playing nice real soon. The Dems need to stop rolling around in the mud with these happy pigs...Get yer galoshes on and solve this problem! #healthnuts
Wow Bill. Way to eat away at the reserve of good will I was slowly building back up for you after you sprung those two journalists from North Korea. #healthnuts
Here in DC, we're hearing we'll be lucky if the Senate bill clears before Christmas. If it doesn't, Reid is threatening to make them come back the Monday after Christmas weekend instead of recessing.
Then the plan is to bring it to conference right after New Year's, and then have it to the president to sign just in time for State of the Union at the end of January. #healthnuts
@formergr: Having moved here (DC) in the last two years, you could not have told me that this city was as political is it is. I know intellectually I should have known, but this city is paralyzed by networking, favors, "Hatfields and McCoys". I work for the VA and I have coworkers who would stab in the neck for a pencil. All that to say, it does not surprise me that they sold women out to try to get this legislation passed. I'm pragmatic enough to know that. However, I truly hope that you are right that the Dems are able to pull this off by State of the Union; if only to piss of Republicans. #healthnuts
@formergr: If it takes another month for political pressure to nix this amendment, that would be okay with me. I mean the public option was DOA in September, but with a little perseverance the Dems revived it. And hell, even the teabagger temper tantrums that want to blow the entire reform out of the water have lost market share in the public sphere since August.
@nicnack74: I work directly in politics, so all that stuff is kind of what I live for :) But it's a shame that it extends to the VA, too, which seems to do such good work from what I hear, and I would have hoped was more neutral...
And yeah, I've definitely become familiar with co-workers who will do anything to get ahead. Took some getting used to, but I've developed a few strategies to get around them without stooping to their level, so it's not terrible. #healthnuts
I feel a little better about the kid after reading that he fetched his mother and the puppy was OK. I was having what could most politely be described as "uncharitable thoughts" until then.
I probably have a form of antisocial personality disorder (although I should point out that I didn't until I worked years of retail) -- I'll take animals over people just about every time, and I would have no problem with the cat killer (or Michael Vick) being executed. None at all. At some point a society has to recognize that there are clear signs of trouble coming, and harming animals is one of them, even if the person responsible is a nice, possibly affluent, not coincidentally white young guy. Some crimes are not only inexcusable, they're symptomatic.
I should also point out that I have a cat who was targeted by dogfighters as a practice animal and lost a leg as a result, so I'm not impartial here. But I'd feel anyway that this guy needs to go.
Gahhh I hate seeing that guy's picture all huge on every article that mentions him. It gives me the willies and I can barely read the other stuff in the article!
Sorry if I'm being obnoxious, but after reading about what that guy supposedly did, it just makes me all....arrrrhgghghghghghhbalaaahhhh go awayyyyyy.
Isn't violence against animals like #1 on the checklist of behaviors that psychoanalysts use to determine if someone has some kind of psychotic/anti personality disorder? Like along w/ bed wetting and fire setting? Or is that just pseudo-science that I heard somewhere?
"The FBI has found that a history of cruelty to animals is one of the traits that regularly appears in its computer records of serial rapists and murderers, and the standard diagnostic and treatment manual for psychiatric and emotional disorders lists cruelty to animals as a diagnostic criterion for conduct disorders."
Which if history in notorious serial killers is any indication, it's correct (see Jeffrey Dahmer, BTK). I think it's almost a prerequisite for serial killers, psychpathy, etc., judging from profiles of these people.
@The Hand-Walking Queer (texascrude): MOST serial killers tortured animals but NOT ALL animal torturers become serial killers. It's a wossname, logical proof thing.
@BytheSea: Definitely, but NYS has made it a felony to assault an animal with the intent to cause great pain. It's easier to track these people and see what comes of their violent tendencies if they have violent felonies on their records. Of course, kids would be juvenile or youthful offenders anyway. Of course not every person who shows cruelty towards an animal will end up hurting a human, but considering how horrible it is to hurt an animal in the first place, it makes sense to have laws to punish this behavior.
11/11/09
Keep your religion out of my government. When you can stop priests from diddling kids, we can talk again. #healthnuts
11/11/09
There. Now I will accept the whipping that follows. #healthnuts
11/11/09
most donate posthaste. #healthnuts
11/11/09
[www.catholicsforchoice.org]
Also on their site "Good Catholics Use Condoms"
I'd like to tell that to my mother in law.
Thanksgiving at the in-laws' - here I come! #healthnuts
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No duh, a bill isn't going to be perfect. The only people who argue pieces of law can be perfect are religious fundamentalists, & a quick perusal of their texts will tell you how silly that is. It doesn't mean that you get to throw in actually evil legistlation just to hope that people (who weren't going to vote for it) might vote for it...& then don't.
Strip the stupid Stupak-Pitts & then get back to me about "not perfect." #healthnuts
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Although if the Senate will also stop covering Viagra, then I might consider it. I mean, did these menfolk ever consider that maybe God gave them a limp penis to control population? So says my religion, and if it's my religion then it must also be the official religion of America or else I'm going to sit here and bitch about how we're all going to hell in a handbasket.
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Of course I'd prefer for everyone to have health care.) #healthnuts
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I'm so glad, at the very least, that it seems people aren't letting this travesty go unnoticed and condoning hypocrisy and unlawfulness by ignoring it.
I hope they stop playing nice real soon. The Dems need to stop rolling around in the mud with these happy pigs...Get yer galoshes on and solve this problem! #healthnuts
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Then the plan is to bring it to conference right after New Year's, and then have it to the president to sign just in time for State of the Union at the end of January. #healthnuts
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And yeah, I've definitely become familiar with co-workers who will do anything to get ahead. Took some getting used to, but I've developed a few strategies to get around them without stooping to their level, so it's not terrible. #healthnuts
07/03/09
I probably have a form of antisocial personality disorder (although I should point out that I didn't until I worked years of retail) -- I'll take animals over people just about every time, and I would have no problem with the cat killer (or Michael Vick) being executed. None at all. At some point a society has to recognize that there are clear signs of trouble coming, and harming animals is one of them, even if the person responsible is a nice, possibly affluent, not coincidentally white young guy. Some crimes are not only inexcusable, they're symptomatic.
I should also point out that I have a cat who was targeted by dogfighters as a practice animal and lost a leg as a result, so I'm not impartial here. But I'd feel anyway that this guy needs to go.
07/02/09
07/02/09
Sorry if I'm being obnoxious, but after reading about what that guy supposedly did, it just makes me all....arrrrhgghghghghghhbalaaahhhh go awayyyyyy.
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07/02/09
"The FBI has found that a history of cruelty to animals is one of the traits that regularly appears in its computer records of serial rapists and murderers, and the standard diagnostic and treatment manual for psychiatric and emotional disorders lists cruelty to animals as a diagnostic criterion for conduct disorders."
Which if history in notorious serial killers is any indication, it's correct (see Jeffrey Dahmer, BTK). I think it's almost a prerequisite for serial killers, psychpathy, etc., judging from profiles of these people.
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