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Mediahohoho
11/20/09

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I would love for a follow up interviewer to ask this girl if she'd ever actually read the Constitution and where, specifically, it seeks to limit "big government."

Ah well, maybe in a couple of years she'll head off to college and actually read the Federalist papers. Or not.
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sheenapunk
11/21/09

@Mediahohoho: yeah, i think she's confusing "limited government" as meaning that it was supposed to have a small budget, not as in it was supposed to not infringe on people's liberties. Also a big government can stil be in the hands of the people..
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Mediahohoho
11/21/09

@sheenapunk: Yes, because people who sat placidly by while the government decided it could unilaterally listen in on every phone conversation in America without a warrant are concerned about limiting government now, rather than then.

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sheenapunk
11/21/09

@Mediahohoho: I don't think I was clear but I was saying that she thinks that when the framers said they wanted a limited government, they meant one with a small budget. But in fact they meant one that wouldn't infringe on civil liberties. And you're saying that Republicans are clearly not concerned with a limited government because they have supported infringements on civil liberties, yes?
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Mediahohoho
11/21/09

@sheenapunk: Yes. I was agreeing with you, because I know that's the point you were making, too. I can be annoying that way.

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Erda
11/20/09

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It's easy to see this as unfair if you ignore the fact that this girl was wearing a t-shirt protesting the bailout. It's not like they just picked a random 17-year-old standing in line to answer the question. If you're going to be making a statement like that, you have to be prepared to field questions about it, as well as criticism.

I'm only 2 years older than this girl, but I know enough that I don't wear t-shirts advertising political issues that I don't feel fully informed about and ready to discuss. Or even if I am informed, but just not in the mood to discuss politics that day - then I just leave the "Students for Choice" shirt at home and pick a different one.
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bovary
11/20/09

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Ignorance is piss.
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IamnotStarJones
11/20/09

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Why does it continue to be so easy to reveal conservatives as being terrified of anything outside of their limited worldview?
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the zeeba is galápagosing it up!
11/20/09

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sorry to consecutively post but after reading all these comments defending seventeen year olds and their naivete, which probably has an accent, which isn't helping my point, we ARE nearly adults. 17.9 and 18 aren't that huge of a difference except according to a few laws.
As a 17 year old as of a month ago, I feel pretty safe assuming I know more seventeen year olds than the majority of the older commenters here, who are very kindly excusing us for our uninformed opinions based on age (not being snarky). but that's doing us a disservice. 17 is NOT too young to learn about how your government works, (or use excessive caps lock. eep.) especially if you're going to draw attention to your approval or disapproval for specific policies. While I don't know every teenager all over America, I don't think it's okay or normal for one who thinks themself well versed in politics (helloooo political blog...) and is okay going on the news to not even know the implications of what she's wearing on her goddamn chest, and to make that sound more normal, not to understand the policies she's defending so fervently. Regardless of ideology, age, gender, stupidity, WHATEVER, I'm glad she got told because she needs to look this shit up. Sadly, she's likely going to use this as fodder for her campaign against nasty manipulative liberals, which entirely defeats the purpose. Why the hell does it have to be a competition? The point is to benefit America, not your fucking ego, not your religious beliefs, and not your taxable income alone.

ranty mcrantpants.
point is 17 + UNINFORMED =/= OK
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Jack_Burton
11/20/09

@the zeeba is galápagosing it up!: Here, here! I think it's very important that teens be aware of politics - should the draft be reinstated, wouldn't you like to have some say as to what happens to you? They sure as hell won't be calling me up.

Also, being active politically even if only during elections is a very important civil act: Someone voted for Palin as Mayor, someone voted for her as Governor, etc.

People that say "my vote doesn't count" aren't thinking about the future. Youth is the opportunity to shape the future. Too many people piss it away.
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the zeeba is galápagosing it up!
11/20/09

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how did she write an entire blog post on this? here's what happened.

a)reporter notices girl's anti bailout shirt
b)reporter tells her sarah palin supported bailout, with factual information
c)girl goes uh what no false idk.
d)reporter calmly clarifies the confusion of government policy (even though i am the same age as her and not sure how she confused the two...what.)
e) girl: uhhhh ...nah.

SHE WAS TOTALLY USED YOU GUYS.
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redparchment
11/20/09

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According to Norah O'Donnell, Jackie said she had voted in previous elections (making her either not 17, or a liar) and had volunteered to be on camera when Norah went looking for people with Palin t-shirts on. They addressed this yesterday on MSNBC, and I really don't think Norah went out there with a "crafty scheme." She simply knew the facts, and corrected Jackie.
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doit2julia
11/20/09

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I once had an argument (well, debate really) in which I insisted flamingos were pink because of their heavy shrimp diet. Everyone found this ridiculous until we looked it up & discovered I was right. No one called me crafty for having gone to zoo camp.
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colllinc001
11/20/09

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I sounded like an idiot when asked by a newspaper reporter about my anti-Reagan t-shirt at a "No Nukes" rally in 1982. As a result, I realized I needed to educate myself better on the issues if I was going to effectively represent my cause. Now I find out I could have just played Victim of Gotcha Liberal Media? Kids today have is too good.
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juicy n seedless
11/20/09

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Part of participation in a democracy is being EDUCATED about the issues and making INFORMED decisions. O'Donnell had the integrity to challenge that girl on her thoughts. Maybe Jackie was embarrassed. But maybe she'll go home and read up on the issues. And when she reads up on the issues she'll have to decide whether Palin was right to support the bailout, or whether she perhaps disagrees with one of Palin's policies. How does that hurt anyone?

I am a professor at a major state university and I'm here to tell you that we do not do young adults any service at all by not challenging their thinking. I make it my job to play devil's advocate. I don't care what they think (ok, I do), but dammit they need to know exactly what it is that they think and they need to have chosen thoughtfully and carefully. Ignorance breaks democracy.
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gibbler
11/20/09

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Am I the only one who thinks that the reporter's prepped response was equally as ill-informed as the girls t-shirt? She's saying that Palin endorsed a government financial intervention during the presidential campaign, before any plans had really been drawn up. Saying she initially supported A bailout is not the same thing as saying she supported THE bailout that actually ended up happening. Also, in my opinion MSNBC sucks just as bad as any of the other mainstream networks and I don't understand why there's this divide between "left" and "right" channels. They're all fluff, they just have a different take on it.
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Cicada
11/20/09

@gibbler: Actually , Palin mentioned her support of the bailout during the VP debates. She also praised John McCain for helping get bipartisan support for the bailout in the Senate. The plans were already drawn up and the bailout on it's way to Bush's desk when she made those remarks.

What she opposed was the stimulus package. She's taken to conflating the bailouts and the stimulus package when she speaks.

[www.chicagotribune.com]
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Little Green Frog (Wise Latina)
11/20/09

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She was learned well from the master. See: Nate Silver's comment where he says that Sarah Palin's victim stance is very effective.
"She's tough to campaign against. Why? Because any perceived or real slight against Palin is taken by her supporters as an example of sexism, elitism, or media bias; just wait until Huckabee or Romney makes their first impolitic comment about Palin in a debate or an interview and watch the sparks fly."
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spiraloflife
11/20/09

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I also find it funny that we've managed to label the "liberal media" as the "gotcha media"-- wasn't it Fox News that would always stalk people and jump out of their hedges to ask questions? Then the bewildered person checking their mail would be all-- "WTF I AM CHECKING MY MAIL NO COMMENT" and then Fox News would say "WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?!"

I feel like "gotcha" media feels like it should involve more jumping out of bushes than Sarah Palin's definition allows.
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onomatopizza
11/20/09

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personally i don't have a problem with a gotcha question since by definition the person asking the question is correct and you are wrong and because of that truth you have, in fact, been got.
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bluewine
11/20/09

@onomatopizza: In what respect, Charlie?
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katynels
11/20/09

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Wait-wait. The blog is called "Red, White & Conservative"? Like for real?
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